Is the MS4 to big for me?
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Is the MS4 to big for me?
After search after search I'm going with the MS4. I do not have much mechanic skills other then the basic stuff, boltons etc. With a good tune will I have to be doing alot of maintnece on the engine and cam, taking it to the track about once a month. (In other words with a MS4 cam will it take alot of tweaking to maintain.) I plan to learn as I go on working internal with the LS1.
Here is what I plan to go with.
MS4 Cam 239/242 .649"/.610", 111.5 LSA
Springs, pushrods, timing chain, oil pump, headers true duals, dyno tuning.
Here is what I plan to go with.
MS4 Cam 239/242 .649"/.610", 111.5 LSA
Springs, pushrods, timing chain, oil pump, headers true duals, dyno tuning.
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ok i would definitly go with headers and a y pipe b4 the cam and what re your goals witht he car?? let some1 install it for you. cams are not easy to install and you might install ur cam wrong and tha could be a problem. leave it to some1 who nos what they are doing and learn form there
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Too much lift (valve spring setup and maintenance) and too much overlap (major tuning to the driveability phase of the car needed). This is not a good first time cam. It takes lots of attention to setup correctly and you will enjoy it a lot more if you started smaller and learned to do everything yourself.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
Too much lift (valve spring setup and maintenance) and too much overlap (major tuning to the driveability phase of the car needed). This is not a good first time cam. It takes lots of attention to setup correctly and you will enjoy it a lot more if you started smaller and learned to do everything yourself.
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224/228 .581/.588 110LSA +2 cam will get you the lope, torque and power to meet your goals and makes for a fine starter cam. Very similar to mine except with more spring-firendly Comp XE-R lobes.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
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U kinda sound like your in the same boat as me as far as cams go. Iv been researching this hard for the last week, and this would be my first ever cam swap in an ls1, I did a cam in my 1975 chevy p/u and it was a piece of cake, but I imagine this is a little different. Anyways I decided to go with the tsp 233/239 cam, not quite so big, but still big enough to get the cool sound, and maybe a little bit more drivability. And as far as doing it myself goes....hell ya Im gonna do it myself, never done anything on this car but change the oil, but Id rather know what I screwed up during the install rather than worrying about what somebody else might have screwed up, and to me half the fun is installing this stuff and when Im rootin around in a bad *** camaro, I know I did all the work.......except the tune!
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The cam install is not hard, if you can change your spark plugs you can change a cam with patience and research. As for the MS4 being too big or not the right cam, only you can make that determination, I would suggest lots of research before you make a decision. Do a little research for MS4 in that handy little tool up there at the top of the page called "search" and you can even put other key words in there nad get tons of threads with more posts than you will care to read.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
Too much lift (valve spring setup and maintenance) and too much overlap (major tuning to the driveability phase of the car needed). This is not a good first time cam. It takes lots of attention to setup correctly and you will enjoy it a lot more if you started smaller and learned to do everything yourself.
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Originally Posted by 2_wacko
The reason I want to start with the MS4 is I dont want to spend money on something smaller then spend more money to go bigger. If I go with the MS4 I will be having it dynotuned and installed at TSP. I would rather have someone do the install rather then tearing something up. Any input is welcomed.