cam guru's in here please...(Pat and predator Z)
12-24-2006, 04:31 PM
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cam guru's in here please...(Pat and predator Z) hey guys...im bout to start a cam swap on my car but as u all know its a hard to decide with all the cams out there (expectially when u dont know much about cams)
welp, to help you pick the cam for me here is what id like to have...
I want a LOUD, HARD LOPEY cam that will sound really agressive on crusie ins and such. My car is NOT a DD in fact it only gets drove on warm, sunny, summer weekends, so high lifts and long durations dont scare me...also its an automatic and i dont wanna STALL the crap out of my car (thats what makes my decition so hard or id just throw in the T-REX)...also i want it to be a street beast cause i dont go to the track much, yet i do some. this is will be a cam only application for a good while as well considering im a college student will small money funds...
thanx in advance and if u have any more questions, ask and ill answer
welp, to help you pick the cam for me here is what id like to have...
I want a LOUD, HARD LOPEY cam that will sound really agressive on crusie ins and such. My car is NOT a DD in fact it only gets drove on warm, sunny, summer weekends, so high lifts and long durations dont scare me...also its an automatic and i dont wanna STALL the crap out of my car (thats what makes my decition so hard or id just throw in the T-REX)...also i want it to be a street beast cause i dont go to the track much, yet i do some. this is will be a cam only application for a good while as well considering im a college student will small money funds...
thanx in advance and if u have any more questions, ask and ill answer
12-24-2006, 04:53 PM
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What about the GM Performance Parts ASA cam?
http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/1981...r-Camshaft.htm
If sound is all you're after, that's you right there!
http://video.ls1tech.com/search/asa/...ef6301c7e9.htm
http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/1981...r-Camshaft.htm
If sound is all you're after, that's you right there!
http://video.ls1tech.com/search/asa/...ef6301c7e9.htm
12-24-2006, 05:39 PM
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im sure the cam guys will chime in here but ill suggest a stall around 3200 with a middle ground type cam that makes power under the curve and doesnt have to rev high. id say a cam with around 224-230 duration with around 600 lift should get you there. if you want it real lopey id get it on a lower lsa like a 111 or maybe even a 110.
12-24-2006, 06:18 PM
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Here's my combo for you:
3200 stall and a 228/232 108, straight up.
Will lope hard at 800 rpm idle, have a wicked midrange, and shifted at 6400 - 6500.
3200 stall will be enough to get you rolling on the street.
I hope your limited funds includes money for tuning.
3200 stall and a 228/232 108, straight up.
Will lope hard at 800 rpm idle, have a wicked midrange, and shifted at 6400 - 6500.
3200 stall will be enough to get you rolling on the street.
I hope your limited funds includes money for tuning.
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12-24-2006, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
Here's my combo for you:
3200 stall and a 228/232 108, straight up.
Will lope hard at 800 rpm idle, have a wicked midrange, and shifted at 6400 - 6500.
3200 stall will be enough to get you rolling on the street.
I hope your limited funds includes money for tuning.
3200 stall and a 228/232 108, straight up.
Will lope hard at 800 rpm idle, have a wicked midrange, and shifted at 6400 - 6500.
3200 stall will be enough to get you rolling on the street.
I hope your limited funds includes money for tuning.
That's a great cam idea.If you wanted a little bit bigger, then go with this proven performer: 234/242 110LSA +4 (XE-R lobes). Set the idle as low as you can for the hardest lope!
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12-24-2006, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
That's a great cam idea.If you wanted a little bit bigger, then go with this proven performer: 234/242 110LSA +4 (XE-R lobes). Set the idle as low as you can for the hardest lope!
would that still have the same 6500 shifts?
12-24-2006, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
That's a great cam idea.If you wanted a little bit bigger, then go with this proven performer: 234/242 110LSA +4 (XE-R lobes). Set the idle as low as you can for the hardest lope!
who makes this cam and what kinda lift does it have.......also would a fairly small stall like a 3500 be ok for this cam?
12-24-2006, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SVThis
who makes this cam and what kinda lift does it have.......also would a fairly small stall like a 3500 be ok for this cam?
or mine, you can get them from Thunder Racing. Just give Angie the duration, LSA and advance and she'll have it ground for you. Thunder will even give you a printout of the cam from their Cam Pro Plus when it's shipped.
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
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12-24-2006, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
It's a custom grind from Thunder Racing. Lift is .600/.610. Since this cam make violent mid-range torque, a 3500 stall will work well. Whether you choose Ragtop's cam or mine, you can get them from Thunder Racing. Just give Angie the duration, LSA and advance and she'll have it ground for you. Thunder will even give you a printout of the cam from their Cam Pro Plus when it's shipped.
or mine, you can get them from Thunder Racing. Just give Angie the duration, LSA and advance and she'll have it ground for you. Thunder will even give you a printout of the cam from their Cam Pro Plus when it's shipped.now what would be the downside to running a 110 LSA with this cam rather than the 110 +4 that u gave me?
12-24-2006, 09:39 PM
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You need to advance the 110LSA cam +4 or you will be needing to shift it at 7000 rpm.
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
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12-24-2006, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
That's a great cam idea.If you wanted a little bit bigger, then go with this proven performer: 234/242 110LSA +4 (XE-R lobes). Set the idle as low as you can for the hardest lope!
12-25-2006, 09:09 AM
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That is like a G5X3 on a 110+4 flycut is imminent
I would say 231/242 .643/.610 110+3 That one will lope a little too
I would say 231/242 .643/.610 110+3 That one will lope a little too
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12-25-2006, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
That's a great cam idea.If you wanted a little bit bigger, then go with this proven performer: 234/242 110LSA +4 (XE-R lobes).
This is the cam in my car now. And I was not happy with it. It seemed to fall off at 6200.
but I think I may of had valve float.
12-25-2006, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by N4cer
You must've had valve float with that. That cam on a 114+4 is a G5X3 on a 114LSA. Same thing. That cam pulled fine on a local car until 7200, at which point valve float stopped it from proceeding.