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Old 02-13-2007, 08:14 AM
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If you were going to rebuild an LS6 and didn't plan any power adders such as nitrous, big cam etc., would it be better to go with the hyperutectic type pistons or go forged? Are forged pistons noisier after they warm up than the hypers?
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All OEM LS1/LS6 engines including mine are noisy at cold start up. What causes this noise I do not know. I bet forged pistons would be just as noisy or even noisier. Coating them may help.

My friends 1999 GMC Full size pickup truck knocks very loudly until fully warmed up.
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dont waste the money on forged pistons if you dont need them. it would be like having slicks on a stock daily driver.
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Originally Posted by gollum
All OEM LS1/LS6 engines including mine are noisy at cold start up. What causes this noise I do not know. I bet forged pistons would be just as noisy or even noisier. Coating them may help.

My friends 1999 GMC Full size pickup truck knocks very loudly until fully warmed up.
piston slap
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Put forged in. You might not plan on any power adder now, but plans change.

Oh and a cam isn't considered a power adder, by the way.
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they make more noise until fully warmed up
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Originally Posted by N4cer
Put forged in. You might not plan on any power adder now, but plans change.

Oh and a cam isn't considered a power adder, by the way.

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If you have it apart, put forged pistons in there.
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Forged it is.

Will there be any HP loss over cast pistons?
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The only downfall to having forged pistons is that you will be able to run more nitrous, more boost.....and make more horsepower. I would not recommend them.....
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Originally Posted by jub jub
Forged it is.

Will there be any HP loss over cast pistons?
A tighter piston to wall clearance and tighter ring gap will make a slight more amount of power. Something that the stock piston/rings will probably have. Nothing too noticeable though.
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forged parts are heavier, and you have to, as mentioned, use larger ring end gaps. if you know there is no way your gonna use nitrous, then go hyper., but, if you plan on selling the car down the road, or may want nitrous then spend the extra money now.
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i guess im the only one who believes forged pistons make are louder when cold lol
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If you guys wanted to buy a used Z06, would you want it with a stock (virgin) engine or a forged block built by a reputable tuner (I think I know what the answer will be with this crowd ) ?
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Originally Posted by jub jub
If you guys wanted to buy a used Z06, would you want it with a stock (virgin) engine or a forged block built by a reputable tuner (I think I know what the answer will be with this crowd ) ?
A forged block by a reputable builder, but I love the bottle and would prefer a nice forged shortblock for a big shot of giggle juice!!

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Originally Posted by SLPSS99
A forged block by a reputable builder, but I love the bottle and would prefer a nice forged shortblock for a big shot of giggle juice!!

Dan
I've never used the stuff but I hear it's got quite the mojo!
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Don't forget, when talking about new parts, the stock pistons cost more than forged pistons.
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Originally Posted by jub jub
If you guys wanted to buy a used Z06, would you want it with a stock (virgin) engine or a forged block built by a reputable tuner (I think I know what the answer will be with this crowd ) ?

well Id answer as youd expect. but later down the road, if you were to sell the vette, Id think MOST potential buyers would frown on an aftermarket engine. Id be willing to guess the typical vette owner would not want the car modded in any way. and in there eyes, it would be worth less then with the orig. engine. know what I mean?

and yes, forged pistons will make more noise when cold due to thermal expansion. basically the forged pistons will grow as they heat up and not rock back and forth like they will when cold.
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Unless you plan on returning the car to BONE stock condition, I wouldn't worry about the people that would be concerned about forged v. stock crap pistons.
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I hate hypereutectic pistons so the answer for me is simple. Most forged pistons these day do not require nearly as much clearance as those of yesteryear. In fact the cheapo forged Sealed Powers for the gen 1 350's require the same min clearance as a stock replacement (.0015). Granted most shops frown on that and set them up a little looser. The main advantage to a hyp pistons is that they do not absorb heat as easily as a forged, but that can be corrected with a ceramic coated forged. Hyp pistons are quite brittle (at least they used to be when I was in the business) and were very prone to breaking when exposed to even mild detonation.


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