ws6_bandit

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Ive been doing a lot of research on cams and cant decide what to go with. I have already done long tubes and an ls2 intake with a fast 90 tb so i think heads/cam is probally the next step. I daily drive the car but i have a truck that can turn into the daily.

I want to go with an MS4 (or maybe something just a bit smaller) but i dont want to wrap the rpm's out to 7k. and i dont want to go too small(TR224/224 might be a bit to small for what i want). I just want a larger cam that is a good performer all through the rpm range. Heads are not out of the question either. Anyone have any opinions in that area also.

Also when you go with a larger cam i hear people talking about all of this maintenance you have to keep up on. Ive just heard of valve springs failing. What else is involved??

So i guess when it comes down to it im looking for a cam that starts producing good power around 2500rpm area and falls off around 6200-6500rpm range. A good set of heads isnt out of the question either. Any proven cams that match up with some heads in this area.

DaveX

Sounds like you need a good head/cam combo. You can have it plenty streetable and make damn good power also. Just have to do a little homework. Some will tell you not to worry about valvetrain maintenance, but it's a concern for me also so I decided to go with a cam around .600 lift and a good set of heads to meet my goals. Look on here for the DCR calculator, and do some research to figure out what you want. A good flowing set of heads, cam in the ~230 range with a DCR of 8.6 - 8.7 and supporting mods should be a good combo for you.

teke184

iTrader: (5)

tsp torquer V2 or the FMS F-13 or 14 with a decent set of heads will put you near the 450rwhp mark.

with a good tune they will drive great, and have good pwer across the board.

stay away from the high lift versions and you should be fine

ws6_bandit

iTrader: (5)

Ok im looking at the TSP V2 cam (232/234, .595"/.598") and the TSP (233/239, .595"/.603"). The 233/239 has the power range i want but im not sure if its getn a little on the big side for what i want. Would the TSP (233/239, .595"/.603") require anymore maintenance then the TSP V2??

What would be a good set of heads for either of these cams??

Anyone have any expirence with these cams in the past?

Thanks for the help.

021less

iTrader: (28)

well i can tell you that the ms4 is a great cam, but not the best choice for a daily driver. I have it in my car and it drives fine, but slow speeds (1500 and below) is a bit rough if you are not on the gas. It starts making power in the 3500 range and it peaked at around 6300. I'm running stock ls6 heads and prc dual springs. But if you got the money for a good set of heads, a smaller cam such as the v.2 will net you what you are looking for. Good luck on the build.

PREDATOR-Z

228/232 .588/.595 110+2 LSA (custom Grind Comp XE-R)

The same with a bit more ooomf

227/231 .639/.643 110+2 LSA (Custom Grind Comp LSK)
good with heads to benefit from the extra lift.

secondgearscratch

are you tracking this beast or street driving mostly?? either way i personally wouldnt go big with the magic stick 4. the problem i have with big cams is the narrow power band and when the power starts coming on. and i dont care who you are, starting to scoot at 4k is not going to go well against a car with a flat tq curve and usable power down low.

also, the cam only thing is ok, but again, i wouldnt do it. it seems like everyone does the grossly big cam with no heads, and in reality only so much power can be made with a cam only set up. (i know there are exceptions...). my school of thought is the combination in which you choose. a smaller cam with the right flowing heads will prove WAY more fun and usable the majority of the time. again an opinion. if youre getting some heads get them milled and matched to the cam you want. you can also go with a port/polish job on the stockers.

enormous cams are the norm i guess but that doesnt make them the best because theyre huge. the magic stick 4 for instance is hard to tune and typically has horrible surging problems at low rpms. who wants that **** in a car you like driving? i know a few who have the big cams and atleast ported heads, but i wouldnt be afraid to race anyone with a cam with 230 or smaller duration and a good set of heads.

i see your on f.a.s.t. i am too, i just never talk to anyone because i have no time. maybe i'll see you around.

if you need a reference of a big cammed car and all the **** that goes along with it just ask Dave Steffen, you probably know him. he's cool, he'll tell you about the MS4...

my vote is for the smaller cam and heads. nothing better than tq down low.

secondgearscratch

by the way the torquer 2 is easy to live with. it will make healthy power from about 1800 up.

ws6_bandit

iTrader: (5)

Im going to go with something at or under .600 lift because i dont want the added maintenance that i would have to deal with.

So how does the TSP 233/239 sound for a cam only car. Thats what im leaning toward.