Read sticky's- Looking for some experienced people to suggest the correct cam
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Read sticky's- Looking for some experienced people to suggest the correct cam
I plan on doing a cam over winter. I don't know a whole lot about cam specs. I read all the stickes and have been using the search feature for a few weeks now. I want people with some knowledge and experience to set me up with the correct cam. The car is a 2000 WS6 stock ls1 6 Speed. Not a daily driver, gets out about twice a week. I want something that will be street friendly, but its not a daily driver so I can deal with a little of cam attitude. I don't want something that is going to be horrible to drive, but I don't expect a stock feeling car. I want to avoid surging! I want the power to come on early and make good consistant power throughout the rpm range. I want it to pull as hard as possible clear up to 6500. I don't want to spin the motor over 6500, which means I don't want a cam that only makes power between 5-7 rpm. I am hoping you can set me up with something that will net me a little over 400rwhp. I am also looking for that choppy sound at idle. If you guys need and more info from me, just ask. thanks
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I really like my cam, it's a 228/230 on XE lobes. It's not real hard on the valvetrain and pulls real hard starting about 2800 on up to 6500. With good tuning it will drive about like stock. It has a nice idle also. I haven't had mine on a dyno so I don't know about HP but from what I have seen with other people with this cam 400rwhp is in the ballpark. Alot of it depends on the other supporting mods. If ya want to hear it click the you tube link below.
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well, I had a F11 in my car before the ms4, and it pulled great just about everywhere, but the half second if my ET drop, and the 3 MPH i gained in the 1/4 told me I made the right choice to the MS4 lol
maybe a F13 cam. similar to the T.V2. You really cant go wrong with many cams, just make sure you go as big as you want, cuz you will always want bigger lol
maybe a F13 cam. similar to the T.V2. You really cant go wrong with many cams, just make sure you go as big as you want, cuz you will always want bigger lol
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For what you want I would suggest looking into a 224/228 or 226/230.
Power under the curve is what it sounded like you want.
Check out the dyno section and look at the results to get an idea of output and power range of the cam your looking at.
A TR224 112 lsa would be right in your range as well.
Power under the curve is what it sounded like you want.
Check out the dyno section and look at the results to get an idea of output and power range of the cam your looking at.
A TR224 112 lsa would be right in your range as well.
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The Torquer V2 has a pretty late IVC.
I like Blanco's suggestions..224/228 or 226/230.
I have always been impressed by the consistency of the TR224 112 LSA cam. It would probably meet most of your goals. Obviously, it will still require tuning, and while IMO it has a nice lope..some want more.
With Texas Speed's latest cam & dyno results, you now even have more options.
It is still about combination and valve events. I would continue to ask the experts. To me it is more of a hobby. I am on my 5th cam. I guess that would make me an 'expert cam customer'.
Good luck.
..WeathermanShawn..
I like Blanco's suggestions..224/228 or 226/230.
I have always been impressed by the consistency of the TR224 112 LSA cam. It would probably meet most of your goals. Obviously, it will still require tuning, and while IMO it has a nice lope..some want more.
With Texas Speed's latest cam & dyno results, you now even have more options.
It is still about combination and valve events. I would continue to ask the experts. To me it is more of a hobby. I am on my 5th cam. I guess that would make me an 'expert cam customer'.
Good luck.
..WeathermanShawn..
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I would check out the TR230 'reverse split'. I'd do some searches for it, people have had some pretty good luck with it on here. Sounds exactly like what you want.
As far as surging, I'd think with cams the size your looking for its more in the tune than anything else, so plan on setting some money/time aside to get it done right.
Gillbot's dyno- https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/476349-tr230-224-a4-dyno.html
His sound clip- https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....78&postcount=4
As far as surging, I'd think with cams the size your looking for its more in the tune than anything else, so plan on setting some money/time aside to get it done right.
Gillbot's dyno- https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/476349-tr230-224-a4-dyno.html
His sound clip- https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....78&postcount=4
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I have a TR224 112 LSA cam in my car and I have run 12.44@116 with it, but I have CNC ported heads, True Duals and a FAST 85/85 intake, as well as 3.90 gears. Only has a mail order tune in it, so I am sure it could gain some power with a dyno tune. You'll like it, I am sure.
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The Torquer V2 has a pretty late IVC.
I like Blanco's suggestions..224/228 or 226/230.
I have always been impressed by the consistency of the TR224 112 LSA cam. It would probably meet most of your goals. Obviously, it will still require tuning, and while IMO it has a nice lope..some want more.
With Texas Speed's latest cam & dyno results, you now even have more options.
It is still about combination and valve events. I would continue to ask the experts. To me it is more of a hobby. I am on my 5th cam. I guess that would make me an 'expert cam customer'.
Good luck.
..WeathermanShawn..
I like Blanco's suggestions..224/228 or 226/230.
I have always been impressed by the consistency of the TR224 112 LSA cam. It would probably meet most of your goals. Obviously, it will still require tuning, and while IMO it has a nice lope..some want more.
With Texas Speed's latest cam & dyno results, you now even have more options.
It is still about combination and valve events. I would continue to ask the experts. To me it is more of a hobby. I am on my 5th cam. I guess that would make me an 'expert cam customer'.
Good luck.
..WeathermanShawn..
The only thing I would say is that how a cam responds on a dyno is not the same as on the street in a full weight car.
If you want to know how a cam will be in your car then look at drag results and the trap speed for a better idea.
Been there and done this one to many times to looking at just dyno results and think the car will be fast because it puts up a big dyno number.
Trap speed is a good indication of actual power, not the only one, but a good indication.
We've got a member over here with a tr224 and a stall and ran 12.1 all day long if your looking for et potential of the tr224.
Honestly in a full weight car I like the TR224 or the Mamo cam 224/228 on the streets and occasional drag use.
A suggested though a custom ground cam is always the better way to go. It can be tailored to meet your exact requirements
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Yes, that is IVC.
Stands for 'Intake Valve Close'...(expressed in degrees).
In simple talk, the earlier the intake valve close..the more torque and horsepower down low. The later the intake valve closes, the more TQ/HP in the higher rpms.
If you are wanting to avoid that feeling of 'this cam kicks in way too late'..in the simplest terms..pick a smaller cam..
Another way to express it is in the 'duration' of a cam.
Just a few technical terms, but learning them will make you a wise consumer.
Good luck.
..WeathermanShawn..
Stands for 'Intake Valve Close'...(expressed in degrees).
In simple talk, the earlier the intake valve close..the more torque and horsepower down low. The later the intake valve closes, the more TQ/HP in the higher rpms.
If you are wanting to avoid that feeling of 'this cam kicks in way too late'..in the simplest terms..pick a smaller cam..
Another way to express it is in the 'duration' of a cam.
Just a few technical terms, but learning them will make you a wise consumer.
Good luck.
..WeathermanShawn..
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I have a TR224 112 LSA cam in my car and I have run 12.44@116 with it, but I have CNC ported heads, True Duals and a FAST 85/85 intake, as well as 3.90 gears. Only has a mail order tune in it, so I am sure it could gain some power with a dyno tune. You'll like it, I am sure.