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Old 09-25-2009, 05:50 PM
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Default Engine Dyno Testing LS3 Intakes INSIDE!!

After swapping intakes for the last 3 days we finally have some data for you guys. These tests were run 2 different ways, once with a maf in place & the test I'm posting which was speed density. The speed density showed power gains that the 85mm MAF was holding back. As a result I'm only posting the Speed density results. If your getting a upgraded intake you really should consider a 100mm maf or speed density tune to see decent power gains.

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For the 2010 guys these results should be pretty close to what they'll see. Using the speed density best simulates the large MAF the LS3 cars ship with!!!
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Camshaft was a TSP 233/240 112+2. Basically it was the last camshaft in the motor so we just left it in!
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Jason,

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So modist gains over a ported Ls3 intake, How do you think this would work on a larger cam with ported heads?

I just put one one my car ill be getting it tuned this weekend if the rain holds out
then im going to try to get to the track next week for a few passes
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What size TB was used?
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Looks like some good numbers. I wonder how it would compare to a Stage 2 Ported LS3 Intake...
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Originally Posted by raymond mckinney
What size TB was used?

90mm for LS3
102mm for FAST
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Nice info!
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Thanks for the comparason!
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So from the looks of it.... its not worth the $8-900 asking price..
It looks to have a lil better flow from 3700-4700, but up top about the same with out being able to zoom in on the graph... I think ill just port an LS3 and save the othere $5-600.

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thats what i was thinking!!!
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
So from the looks of it.... its not worth the $8-900 asking price..
It looks to have a lil better flow from 3700-4700, but up top about the same with out being able to zoom in on the graph... I think ill just port an LS3 and save the othere $5-600.


If you have a stock car or maybe just a cam than yeah I guess it's not worth it.. but we are yet to see results on any of the bigger cube motors or even one with ported heads
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I'm still on the fence with this. I still have the 85mm maf so maybe I just go SD? I'd like to see results on a big cube motor..........like mine.
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I'm definitely on the fence also. I'm keeping my ported LS3 for now.
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Can't wait for a bigger (402ci+)engine to try this thing out, That'll make it or break it for me anyways. My situation is a bit diff though... I don't have an intake at all right now. So I spend what $200 if I got a good deal on an Ls3 then have it ported $300, only about $300 more or so diff to get the Fast. You guys over at Texas Speed don't have any of your 418's you can throw one of these on lol. I'm sure it's just a matter of days before someone has some numbers on a bigger engine. Patiently waiting....
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Every single result I've seen shows that the L76/LS3 intake works fairly well on 6.0 engines but becomes a limiting factor on the larger builds. The smaller motors consistently pull 500 more RPM than the larger builds all things being equal. FAST is going to have one HUGE pile of plastic on the shelves if the intake doesn't perform better on thet 402+ builds.
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build is in sign but should i go get my ls3 ported or get this new intake?!?!?! i am most likley going to port heads and maybe some bottle!!
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Originally Posted by ajw2500hd
build is in sign but should i go get my ls3 ported or get this new intake?!?!?! i am most likley going to port heads and maybe some bottle!!
I would port it for now and save the cash. You can always sell it and get a FAST if it proves to be noticeably better on modded engines.
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Originally Posted by WKMCD
Every single result I've seen shows that the L76/LS3 intake works fairly well on 6.0 engines but becomes a limiting factor on the larger builds. The smaller motors consistently pull 500 more RPM than the larger builds all things being equal. FAST is going to have one HUGE pile of plastic on the shelves if the intake doesn't perform better on thet 402+ builds.
Everyone talks about how this intake is going to perform on "bigger cubed" engines. I say

After all, it's called the FAST 102 for LS3's. You would have thought they would have spent their R&D budget around results produced on a 6.2L engine.

Someone with a modded LS2 or LS3 will eventually get one-but for now based on the initial results, I don't think anyone including myself is ready to bite the bullet.
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I wonder how a stage 2 port and 95mm TB stocker would have did.


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