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Old 08-26-2013, 11:49 AM
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I have a set of ported 799s going onto my LS2 with a ASA cam. Should I mill these heads first? I do not want ptv clearance issues. Cam is .525/.525 226/236. Milling .025 will bring it down to right around 61cc, bringing the CR up to almost 11.5. What would you do?
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High compression is free HP. I'd mill them. I have a set of heads milled down to a 11.4 to 1 ratio. Been running them for 5 years now.
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High compression is free HP. I'd mill them. I have a set of heads milled down to a 11.4 to 1 ratio. Been running them for 5 years now. Nuff said..
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anybody else?
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I cc'd the chambers today and they are 67cc after the port work. At .006" = 1cc, shaving .030" will bring the chambers to 62cc, giving me 11.26 compression. Anyone see any piston-to-valve clearance issues with this?
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I'm using stock MLS head gaskets, .051" compressed
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With a cam that small, I don't see you having any PTV clearance issues at all. Although it's always best to just measure to be sure
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I know that its best to measure, but was hoping to find someone with the same or similar setup and if they had to flycut.
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i thought 243/799 heads were 64cc not 67cc which were 853/241s?
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^ you are correct. After polishing the combustion chambers they are 67cc.
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so you have either 241 or 853s then?
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Originally Posted by COSTIGAN86
I'm using stock MLS head gaskets, .051" compressed
Something to thing about; if you went to the .040 Cometic gasket, you could mill less and still get the same added compression you desire. The other thing this will do is add quench which helps protect against detonation. Tight quench is a great thing for a NA motor. Oh, and as for your original question, I don't think you'll have PtV issues at all with that cam. Intake duration is typically the main thing to concern yourself with. Now, the only way to make sure is to measure.

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so you have either 241 or 853s then?
No, what he's saying is that the back cutting of the valves, and port work increased the chamber size.
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Update: I measured and had plenty of clearance. Milled .020" and still have over .100"
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No, what he's saying is that the back cutting of the valves, and port work increased the chamber size.
ah ok. so it brought the cc from 64cc to 67cc and now that he milled the heads 0.020" they're now around 63.75cc-ish?

i'm still new to all of the heads and such. so porting the innards of the heads also affect the cc overall, meaning for example 799 heads be 64cc and if i do a home-port job such as removing the lump and bulleting the intake valve area that the overall cc would go up some? sorry for the threadjack btw COSTIGAN86
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Originally Posted by fst100
ah ok. so it brought the cc from 64cc to 67cc and now that he milled the heads 0.020" they're now around 63.75cc-ish?

i'm still new to all of the heads and such. so porting the innards of the heads also affect the cc overall, meaning for example 799 heads be 64cc and if i do a home-port job such as removing the lump and bulleting the intake valve area that the overall cc would go up some? sorry for the threadjack btw COSTIGAN86
The ports and chambers are two different things. Narrowing the guide boss and removing the rocker boss will increase the volume of the port, and will have no effect on the chamber.
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I am running the howards vs ASA cam with PRC 243/799 Stage 1 heads Milled .030 with .045 cometic gaskets on a LS1.

My PTV was .083 intake and .125 Exhaust

Just FYI, but I would always check.



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