New L92 shortblock looks bad, need opinions
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New L92 shortblock looks bad, need opinions
I received this new L92 416ci shortblock from a board sponsor last week, and this is what I saw when I opened the crate. The spots all over the aluminum don't concern me as much as the rust on the cylinder bores. The aluminum isn't pitted that I can feel, just stained. What would you do in this situation, keep it or send it back?
What makes it a bit more complicated is that this is the 2nd block sent to me. The first one had the wrong pistons due to a clerical error. However, the cam bearings were also very scratched up in the one I sent back! So, if I send this block back, I'll probably ask for a refund. Fun, fun, fun...
What makes it a bit more complicated is that this is the 2nd block sent to me. The first one had the wrong pistons due to a clerical error. However, the cam bearings were also very scratched up in the one I sent back! So, if I send this block back, I'll probably ask for a refund. Fun, fun, fun...
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+1 I don't see anything wrong there. Talk a clean rag and oil it, then go over the spot in the bore you think is rusty - chances are it'll clean up perfect. But again, the pics don't show anything to worry about
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That's a tough call. If I would have just spent the money that you did, I would be upset too! Someone didnt properly pack it. I have brought many blocks home from the machine shop and had that spotting on the bores occur just from the moisture in the air on the ride home. Never had any problems, its not substantial enough to ever cause you any problems, but on the other hand, that is not what you paid for ! You can go through the hassle of a return, or risk it and put it together, it would be a 50/50 decision for me.
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In this weather rust can form on the liners in 2 days.I had a 408 iron block that we uncrated and it sat for 1 week in the garage.The thing was almost completely covered with surface rust. - -It's a winter thing.Wipe the bores with oil on a rag and give it a spin.Shouldn't be a problem.
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I agree with slowhawk. It looks fine other than a shortblock that has been stored and shipped. It probably got cold and warm a few times which caused it to sweat due to the humidity, just like a drinking glass with ice water in it. They might could have given it a coat of WD-40 before shipment to slow it but i'd run it.
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i can see cross hatch... even if it wasnt new it should still have it. My stock Ls1 after 84k still had cross hatch marks in it. Either way, i'd probably just wipe it down with some oil, possibly scotch brite. Have you contacted the sponsor, and asked them what to do about it?
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Originally Posted by SideStep
Surface rust or not....
... I cannot see the cross-hatching in the cylinders, are you sure this is a new motor???
... I cannot see the cross-hatching in the cylinders, are you sure this is a new motor???
I really can't see cross-hatching either.
Then again it may be a new 'super L92 sleeve' with no honing needed .
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
In this weather rust can form on the liners in 2 days.I had a 408 iron block that we uncrated and it sat for 1 week in the garage.The thing was almost completely covered with surface rust. - -It's a winter thing.Wipe the bores with oil on a rag and give it a spin.Shouldn't be a problem.
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The 3rd pic really shows the worst of what's on the liners. Those thick dark lines aren't a reflection. I tried wiping it with an oily wrag, but it didn't really get any better. There is a crosshatch on the bores, and the block was coated with WD40. The passenger side looks almost perfect. The block was also in a plastic bag for shipment. So, all of that corrosion on the driver side must've been there before they shipped it. That's the thing that really ticks me off, because I asked several times if there was anything wrong with it.
The pics looked a lot better before I had to shrink them to upload them here, guess I should've used photobucket or something.
The pics looked a lot better before I had to shrink them to upload them here, guess I should've used photobucket or something.
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
In this weather rust can form on the liners in 2 days.I had a 408 iron block that we uncrated and it sat for 1 week in the garage.The thing was almost completely covered with surface rust. - -It's a winter thing.Wipe the bores with oil on a rag and give it a spin.Shouldn't be a problem.
I agree, just clean it up, it's fine. From the pics, the liners look way more uniform than the first block pics that were posted months ago.
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When they are in the plastic bag the block can sweat and cause surface rust..I'd wipe it down good and put it in the car..If you have a local machine shop do a short block and you bring it home at put it in the garage it can develope rust so fast you won't beleive it.
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I got the block from SDPC, and I've been dealing with Brian. I left him a voicemail Friday and Monday, and tried calling today. Still haven't heard from him.
I was planning on keeping the block, but I'm having doubts again, since he isn't calling back. Another thing that keeps bugging me is that I ordered a Callies crank, and the first block had Callies cast into the crank. This latest block doesn't have Callies on it anywhere though. And I said CAST into it, not stamped He said they only use Eagle and Callies, and the Callies is the only one with 2 keyways in the snout. Still odd though.
I was planning on keeping the block, but I'm having doubts again, since he isn't calling back. Another thing that keeps bugging me is that I ordered a Callies crank, and the first block had Callies cast into the crank. This latest block doesn't have Callies on it anywhere though. And I said CAST into it, not stamped He said they only use Eagle and Callies, and the Callies is the only one with 2 keyways in the snout. Still odd though.