Trying To Understand Wiring
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Trying To Understand Wiring
Mods please feel free to move this to an appropriate location. I tried Stero and Electronics and really got no luck...
Ok here it goes. I am jsut realyl frustrated trying to understand how to wire up switeches and what not. right now i have an e-cut out switch in my car (already installed). My buddy installed it for me. Now i have been doing some searching lately and i am gettign frustrated b/c now i want to learn how to wire things up. IE: manual fan switch, e-cutout, linelock, kill switch and more.
I dont understand where everyone is tapping into. What 12v source? And is everyone using the ground that is right under the center sounsel by the shifter?
I want to get that cubbyhole plate the DrgaonZ28 is offering. But i have no idea on how to wire in anything
Sorry if i am all over the place. I am an electrical newb, and i want to learn. But when seraching i have not learned anyhting yet
Please help and make me understand
Thanks
Ok here it goes. I am jsut realyl frustrated trying to understand how to wire up switeches and what not. right now i have an e-cut out switch in my car (already installed). My buddy installed it for me. Now i have been doing some searching lately and i am gettign frustrated b/c now i want to learn how to wire things up. IE: manual fan switch, e-cutout, linelock, kill switch and more.
I dont understand where everyone is tapping into. What 12v source? And is everyone using the ground that is right under the center sounsel by the shifter?
I want to get that cubbyhole plate the DrgaonZ28 is offering. But i have no idea on how to wire in anything
Sorry if i am all over the place. I am an electrical newb, and i want to learn. But when seraching i have not learned anyhting yet
Please help and make me understand
Thanks
Last edited by TORCHD 02 TA; 12-26-2008 at 03:06 PM.
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12v source is any constant 12v power...this means its provides 12v all the time
12v switched is a 12v source that is only powerd when key is on
ground is any wire going to the chassis
you should use as relays when needed so you dont need to run such a heavy duty switch and let the relay take the load. this is also much safer
if at all possible always use switched power for anything thing that turns on and off. this way you can shut car off and never worry about having something stuck on
as for the Efans no reason to have them turn on viva a switch, they are controlled from factory with a temp sensor. Fans running when the Tstat isnt opening is just wasting energy. if you want fans on at alower temp have it reprogrammed
as for a 12v switched you tap into the fuse panel that is on the driverside of dash for incar wiring, under hood wiring tap into that fuse panel out there
also for proper wiring use the same size ground or slightly larger then power wire. you never wnat your ground smaller then your 12v source in DC. Also make sure to always use proper gauge wiring for the current draw or else youll have a fire down the road
12v switched is a 12v source that is only powerd when key is on
ground is any wire going to the chassis
you should use as relays when needed so you dont need to run such a heavy duty switch and let the relay take the load. this is also much safer
if at all possible always use switched power for anything thing that turns on and off. this way you can shut car off and never worry about having something stuck on
as for the Efans no reason to have them turn on viva a switch, they are controlled from factory with a temp sensor. Fans running when the Tstat isnt opening is just wasting energy. if you want fans on at alower temp have it reprogrammed
as for a 12v switched you tap into the fuse panel that is on the driverside of dash for incar wiring, under hood wiring tap into that fuse panel out there
also for proper wiring use the same size ground or slightly larger then power wire. you never wnat your ground smaller then your 12v source in DC. Also make sure to always use proper gauge wiring for the current draw or else youll have a fire down the road
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The fan switch is a bit different than a normal switched source. In order to control this off your own switch, you must find the correct pin and have it switched to a ground source. Only way to do this is to reverse the polarity via relay.
You're asking very broad questions here
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Not true. It's nice to have the fans cooling your car down with the keys out whether you're in staging lanes or about to work on your car in the garage. There is a reason why so many people have fan switches
The fan switch is a bit different than a normal switched source. In order to control this off your own switch, you must find the correct pin and have it switched to a ground source. Only way to do this is to reverse the polarity via relay.
You're asking very broad questions here
The fan switch is a bit different than a normal switched source. In order to control this off your own switch, you must find the correct pin and have it switched to a ground source. Only way to do this is to reverse the polarity via relay.
You're asking very broad questions here
Where is there a constant 12v source running on the car? How do you tap into that? Also where is there a 12v source powered only when the key is in the on postion? Where do you tap into that?
Sorry for the broad questions. Brain how did you wire up your switch panel?
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I know how the manual fans switch runs, i found a write up and tell you what pins to run it in line with. But how do you tap into the wiring already on the car? What type of connectors do you need?
Where is there a constant 12v source running on the car? How do you tap into that? Also where is there a 12v source powered only when the key is in the on postion? Where do you tap into that?
Sorry for the broad questions. Brain how did you wire up your switch panel?
Where is there a constant 12v source running on the car? How do you tap into that? Also where is there a 12v source powered only when the key is in the on postion? Where do you tap into that?
Sorry for the broad questions. Brain how did you wire up your switch panel?
You can find those just about anywhere.
A constant power source refers to power whether the car has ignition or not. You can tap into any constant power source, there are many. I believe the orange wire off the cigarette lighter is constant. A good way to to find your power source is to get a 12v light tester.
All of my wiring I have fused to the fuse panel. I believe this to be much safer. There are open constant and ignition power slots in there.
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be notted using that Quick tap is dangerous, they can lead to shorts since they arent intended to carry a good amount of current. If you are using them then us them as a signal and not a load carrying wire.
if you want to do it right tap off the fuse box, you can get inserts that slide over the fuse prong or could even get a Fuse'd insert that plugs in like a fuse but as a spade terminal end on it
if you want to do it right tap off the fuse box, you can get inserts that slide over the fuse prong or could even get a Fuse'd insert that plugs in like a fuse but as a spade terminal end on it
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As stated, a constant 12V wire is something that has power (hot wire) running through it whether the car is on or off, key is in or out, etc. The one I used for my ram air lights is the cigarette lighter. I used the power wire to power everything, and the cigarette lighter ground to ground the switch. It was an LED switch so it needed a ground for the light. I have yet to tap into the fusebox, but there are accessory ports on there. "IGN" is one that is only hot when the key is turned to ON I believe. There are two other ones too.. but I forgot what they say. I think one is always constant and the other is when the door opens and stuff, like when your map lights come on (I think?) could be wrong. I've used plenty of those quick splices, their pretty awesome. I didn't know ANYTHING about wiring when I had my first car, a Camaro.. But I just went for it. You'll be fine, just use common sense
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To tap into wiring, the most common way is to piggy back with a scotchlock connector:
You can find those just about anywhere.
A constant power source refers to power whether the car has ignition or not. You can tap into any constant power source, there are many. I believe the orange wire off the cigarette lighter is constant. A good way to to find your power source is to get a 12v light tester.
All of my wiring I have fused to the fuse panel. I believe this to be much safer. There are open constant and ignition power slots in there.
You can find those just about anywhere.
A constant power source refers to power whether the car has ignition or not. You can tap into any constant power source, there are many. I believe the orange wire off the cigarette lighter is constant. A good way to to find your power source is to get a 12v light tester.
All of my wiring I have fused to the fuse panel. I believe this to be much safer. There are open constant and ignition power slots in there.
Also Brian where did you get your Pioneer radio?
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I got my pioneer from best buy, I now have an alpine
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automotive supply places have them on their electrical shelves. i dont have a pic or know the proper name. just know when i go to the store i know what im looking for.sorry that doesnt give you exactly the answer you want. just go to a store that arent full of idiots and ask them, if thye dont have them they should have a book that has all kinds of electical connectors.
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automotive supply places have them on their electrical shelves. i dont have a pic or know the proper name. just know when i go to the store i know what im looking for.sorry that doesnt give you exactly the answer you want. just go to a store that arent full of idiots and ask them, if thye dont have them they should have a book that has all kinds of electical connectors.