LS4 Performance Grand Prix GXP | Monte Carlo SS | Impala SS | LaCrosse Super

GXP Hot Cam Install-hp questions?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-24-2009, 09:26 PM
  #1  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
phat_ridegt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ottawa, IL
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default GXP Hot Cam Install-hp questions?

first off, hi everybody! *waits for the simpson viewers lol*

as my first post over here i thought id share some pics/experiences of the cam install myself and a good buddy did on his 07 gxp. although we've been into modding w-bodies for quite some time, and been working at a dealership for a few years, this lsx motor is by far the most fun motor to work with. not saying it was easy getting it in and out of the car, but the car is fun to drive and rips pretty good.

anyway, down to buisness, the bumpstick is an ls1 hot cam, probably common on the board here, its 218/227 .525/.525 112 LSA. the install was pretty straight-forward, ran into a couple minor setbacks, like the lifter trays not working, the cam gear being different on the 07 and up, and forgetting about the DOD oiling holes. (found what we needed thanks to some posts on here).

we also added a 2750 stall to the car, out of my gtp (i need to upgrade since it's turbo'd now). we ended up using the 1/8"npt plugs and a **** ton of grease to catch all the shavings in the block.

my question is, what do these cars normally dyno stock? how about 1/4 mile times? i know ive seen some 13.7's stock, 13.9's...what is typical?

anyway, heres all the pics i took, and a short idle vid. the car pulls very hard up top, even though it lost a little bit of low end torque.



balancer clearance! eeeeeek










Old 01-24-2009, 09:26 PM
  #2  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
phat_ridegt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ottawa, IL
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default







Cam Differences









aarons nickname is stix lol




video
http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g5...t=138_0848.flv

Last edited by phat_ridegt; 01-24-2009 at 09:34 PM. Reason: bad link
Old 01-24-2009, 09:31 PM
  #3  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (3)
 
LS4SPEED's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 633
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Video no good! I"m not far from you I'm over in Yorkville. Cant wait to hear it!
Old 01-24-2009, 09:34 PM
  #4  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
phat_ridegt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ottawa, IL
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

fixed
Old 01-24-2009, 10:01 PM
  #5  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (1)
 
StealthV8's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 763
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

haha nice to see you over here, i posted a link to your thread on clubgp last night lol
stock we usually run 14.2-13.8 usually trap 99-102 mph.. Best has been 13.6 at 102mph and worst i've seen high 14's lol
Old 01-24-2009, 10:41 PM
  #6  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (3)
 
Brian396's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ottawa IL
Posts: 749
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

G-tech time 13.78 @ 104 2.4 60’. That was K&N and a Zippy tune.
So your from Ottawa IL? I’ve rumors of a little black GTP running around here doing low 12s. You ever here any thing like that?
Old 01-25-2009, 01:22 AM
  #7  
TECH Fanatic
 
neilownz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fargo, ND
Posts: 1,769
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

nice pics. you can actually upload the pics to your account and attach them to the post, but who has a 56k nowdays anyway.

the coors made you do it?
Old 01-25-2009, 03:05 AM
  #8  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (4)
 
Nacho SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: 805-818
Posts: 3,561
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Great looking install, sounds like the engine is choked by the stock airbox and stock (looking) exhaust thought.
Old 01-25-2009, 07:37 PM
  #9  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
phat_ridegt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ottawa, IL
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Brian396
So your from Ottawa IL? I’ve rumors of a little black GTP running around here doing low 12s. You ever here any thing like that?
maaaaaayyyyyybbeeeeee lol why? low 12's was 2007 times.....


thanks for the compliments guys, this has been a nice start to a nice large project. hopefully this thing will be boosted in the coming months...
Old 01-25-2009, 09:31 PM
  #10  
On The Tree
 
mixerda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Austin Tx.
Posts: 130
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

HAHAHAHA ya got the motor out through the top I think I almost killed myself when I saw that pic, that musta been fun atleast no vulgar profane words were involved in the project...maybe the beer helped next big project motor is comin out....

The cam being single center bolt was a surprise for me as well, atleast I know I'm not the only ls4 with a different cam.

with the cam I put down 278 to the wheel on the dyno, that was motor heat soaked and the dyno tune operator not knowin how to get my tcm to get over 6100rpm, every peek HP I hit was at the 6100rpm mark so no idea on what my true HP is but for now I'll say 278 lol. I've since went in and modified the tune quite a bit I'm still learnin a lot about the tuning aspect of this car though.

the biggest prob I'm running into is the fact that the cams power band is around 4500-6500, somewhere in that range give or take a few hundred RPM. Every time I downshift I'm back out of the power band :/ transmission is just so confused as to if it wants to be a family sedan or a 300hp racing machine

oh and great job good to see more people are out modding these car maybe just maybe the market will grow some for it
Old 01-25-2009, 10:03 PM
  #11  
Staging Lane
 
2010cam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

sounded good that a completely stock exhaust?
Old 01-25-2009, 10:04 PM
  #12  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
phat_ridegt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ottawa, IL
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

the stall converter helps out big time with the powerband, i think we will be adding some 3.29 gears (unless it already has them lol), using a single 7/8" drive chain

edit: yep stock exhaust totally.

mixerda, what cam do you have?
Old 01-25-2009, 10:56 PM
  #13  
On The Tree
 
mixerda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Austin Tx.
Posts: 130
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

TR 224/224 112LSA

for the tranny
- 258mm, RI 15 Torque Converter
- Enhanced Heavy Duty 3.29 Final Drive
- 2.93 Effective Final Drive
Old 01-26-2009, 02:06 AM
  #14  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (4)
 
Nacho SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: 805-818
Posts: 3,561
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by phat_ridegt
the stall converter helps out big time with the powerband, i think we will be adding some 3.29 gears (unless it already has them lol), using a single 7/8" drive chain

edit: yep stock exhaust totally.

mixerda, what cam do you have?
Please throw something on there with more diameter and free-er flowing. That Ls4 is choking and the intake needs to be taken care of too.
Old 01-26-2009, 07:23 AM
  #15  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
phat_ridegt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ottawa, IL
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

^^^^ yep we plan on it.
Old 01-26-2009, 07:46 AM
  #16  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (3)
 
Brian396's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ottawa IL
Posts: 749
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I thought so. I work with Tim at ITC. I’ve been riding around Ottawa in a little white GXP setting off car alarms everywhere; it’s a lot quieter now. Almost sounds stock. Almost
Old 01-26-2009, 11:03 AM
  #17  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
phat_ridegt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ottawa, IL
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

oh sweet. id like to hear one with exhaust. you arent the one that went turbo is it? id like to check it out if so. we'll have to hook up in the spring man
Old 01-26-2009, 04:51 PM
  #18  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (3)
 
Brian396's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ottawa IL
Posts: 749
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

maaaaaayyyyyybbeeeeee
Old 03-13-2009, 08:29 PM
  #19  
TECH Regular
 
GXPJAY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Claremont, ON Canada
Posts: 416
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Hey, Couple questions:

-Do you have pics of what you did with the oiling holes?

-What was wrong with the lifter tray?

-Did you just use an LS1 or LS2 timing gear/chain set?
Old 03-13-2009, 08:47 PM
  #20  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
phat_ridegt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ottawa, IL
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

its an ls1/ls2 chain, with a 4x ls2 cam gear (gmpp part). the lifter trays from the DOD wont work with oem lifters....so we used ls2 trays. i have some pics somewhere, but i cant find them right now....

we just tapped the 8 holes, and threaded in some 1/8" npt plugs...


Quick Reply: GXP Hot Cam Install-hp questions?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:19 AM.