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Old 02-11-2009, 04:54 PM
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Heres a background on this story..

I have a 97 T/A WS6 A4 with the mods listed in my sig
My Yank SS 3600 stall is coming tomorrow (keeping stock 10-bolt for now) and I am also buying Motive 3.73 gears and suspension parts (rear racing shocks, UMI tubular lower control arm, brackets, welded tubular subframe connectors, and a umi shock tower brace) done by Spring

My friend Jack has a red 2006 Cobalt SS/SC with Stage 2 ("260hp")

So I get on facebook last night and Jack comments on my picture of my T/A in the garage saying "Oh, I hope the hockey net hanging in front of it falls on it" and on another picture, "Look at that slow POS"

So I reply back "if it did, i'd still have the pleasure of knowing its ugly *** would still beat you"

So he says this "marc, its okay you drive GM's mistake. Thats cool. If your gonna buy a V8 why would you buy a busted LT1. I'd love to race you, Not only would i beat your slow POS now, but I'll smoke its *** come spring. have a nice day"

I reply "So your calling the f-bodies a mistake? Is that why you haven't beat me yet?"

He goes "The LT1 was Gm's mistake, the Ls1 is what happened when they came off thier high."

I said, "Put your money where your mouth is and drive down here from Ames" (40 minute drive)

He says we'll wait until Spring at Newton (1/8th mile strip) and Cedar Falls (1/4 strip) here in Iowa

With Stage 2, and 235 tires, he ran a 9.4 at Newton's 1/8th mile.. My car ran a 9.0 bone stock to the filter with crappy street tires...

He claims his Cobalt will be running "high 12's" when the fastest stage two only i've ever seen go is 14.0... (One guy with a ported supercharger, full bolt-on's, drag radials, and a 50 shot of nitrous ran a 13.3 up in Cedar Falls)

So what do you think guys apparently LT1 was GM's mistake, and hes afraid to race me from a dig.. it can only be a 50mph roll.. I laughed saying Rolls are for Pussies
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^ Haha soo true. i had a buddy with his stage 2 run a 14.00 flat as well.
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He's an Idiot!!!Colbalt is a girls car!!!!!!!! And in the end its only half the engine you have.
IMO LT1s are the last true muscle cars. They look, sound, and drive like it. LS1 and other new engine powered cars my be faster but they lack in "in your face muscle car kinda feel".
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Heres a background on this story..

I have a 97 T/A WS6 A4 with the mods listed in my sig
My Yank SS 3600 stall is coming tomorrow (keeping stock 10-bolt for now) and I am also buying Motive 3.73 gears and suspension parts (rear racing shocks, UMI tubular lower control arm, brackets, welded tubular subframe connectors, and a umi shock tower brace) done by Spring

My friend Jack has a red 2006 Cobalt SS/SC with Stage 2 ("260hp")

So I get on facebook last night and Jack comments on my picture of my T/A in the garage saying "Oh, I hope the hockey net hanging in front of it falls on it" and on another picture, "Look at that slow POS"

So I reply back "if it did, i'd still have the pleasure of knowing its ugly *** would still beat you"

So he says this "marc, its okay you drive GM's mistake. Thats cool. If your gonna buy a V8 why would you buy a busted LT1. I'd love to race you, Not only would i beat your slow POS now, but I'll smoke its *** come spring. have a nice day"

I reply "So your calling the f-bodies a mistake? Is that why you haven't beat me yet?"

He goes "The LT1 was Gm's mistake, the Ls1 is what happened when they came off thier high."

I said, "Put your money where your mouth is and drive down here from Ames" (40 minute drive)

He says we'll wait until Spring at Newton (1/8th mile strip) and Cedar Falls (1/4 strip) here in Iowa

With Stage 2, and 235 tires, he ran a 9.4 at Newton's 1/8th mile.. My car ran a 9.0 bone stock to the filter with crappy street tires...

He claims his Cobalt will be running "high 12's" when the fastest stage two only i've ever seen go is 14.0... (One guy with a ported supercharger, full bolt-on's, drag radials, and a 50 shot of nitrous ran a 13.3 up in Cedar Falls)

So what do you think guys apparently LT1 was GM's mistake, and hes afraid to race me from a dig.. it can only be a 50mph roll.. I laughed saying Rolls are for Pussies
LOL, just post a time slip at him and tell him to beat it.
You'll have to read the laundry list of excuses he'll have...but at the end, he'll have nothing and you can call him on it.
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With the time he ran in the 1/8th.. most Cobalt guys on their forum think he can run at best a 14.2... maybe shitty driving idk... lol his new mods that are gonna destroy me are a strut bar and a short shifter... mmmhmm yeah.. I was just livid when he called LT1 GM's mistake....

I'm pretty sure our motors are cheap as hell to build and are an amazing sports car value to anyone!
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How sad. With the mods in your sig you should easily run 12s. So if he can't, he's in trouble.

Shove your timeslip in his face and wait an eternity for him to beat it.
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Yeah.. I just said how about we put some money down on this! lol even from a rolls at all speeds my buddy who has a bone stock 00 ss slp still WALKED him from any mph pull he wanted to do and my friends Camaro and mine are neck and neck so far
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Just tell him to put his money where his mouth is. His tone will change real quick!
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put some money on it ;]

you'll be a rich man.
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He still somehow thinks hes going to win... I'll let you guys know the final outcome in about a month or so... His pansy *** has to "order my parts" (hes in college and broke as hell, always asking us friends for money)
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LT1's get alot of disrespect its pathetic. Funny when the old POS LT1 cars can run 12's with boltons. Funny how they also run 11's full weight with ported heads, mild cam and boltons on stock bottom ends. If a car can do that its got respect in my book. No disrespect to LSx's (have an LS2 GTO and LS2 TBSS in the fam) but if you do a properly setup heads/cam + boltons to an LS1 and to an LT1 both will basically runs 11's, just that the LS1 will be deeper into the 11's than the LT1. Stroke them both out with good heads/cam and big stall + gears and both will be capable of 10's of course with the LS1 deeper into the 10's than the LT1. Just trying to prove a point by saying in reality the LS1 is definetly better but not by a whole lot, just the general population of people do not understand that and they are naive. Race your buddy and shut his *** up!
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I'm trying!!! We are going to have an official 1/8th mile run in Newton, Iowa.. (only close track, Iowa Speedway) and one in Cedar Falls's 1/4 track to see the difference
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The LT1 wasn't GM's mistake. It's a damn good motor, especially since it was first produced in '92. The only problem is the stupid optispark. I'd consider his motor to be a bigger mistake. I like the Cobalt SS/SC and all. But, we all know it wasn't getting the job done, and that's why GM decided to go turbo in '08.
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Until then why dont ya send him the link to this thread and see what he has to say

BTW with a Yank SS3600 and tires you will hit the 60' mark so hard that he will **** his pants.
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I think the outcome will end just like this except it will be you guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF25yNxBLFk
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are you shure hes not talking about you're dd eclipse cause it sounds like that would we a way more fair race hahaha
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if you really wanna shove something in his face, gm bought the ecotec design from toyota. gm just made it a little better. with direct injection, but thats only the turbo models
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Hey cmon guys cobalts are sweet.
I can ride and get groceries in the winter in great comfort and remote start that bad boy before i go driving! You just cant comete with that kinda luxury and 14 second 1/4mile passes. To sum it up, Cobalts are the best car GM has ever produced...EVAR!

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Originally Posted by StealthFormula
LT1's get alot of disrespect its pathetic. Funny when the old POS LT1 cars can run 12's with boltons. Funny how they also run 11's full weight with ported heads, mild cam and boltons on stock bottom ends. If a car can do that its got respect in my book. No disrespect to LSx's (have an LS2 GTO and LS2 TBSS in the fam) but if you do a properly setup heads/cam + boltons to an LS1 and to an LT1 both will basically runs 11's, just that the LS1 will be deeper into the 11's than the LT1. Stroke them both out with good heads/cam and big stall + gears and both will be capable of 10's of course with the LS1 deeper into the 10's than the LT1. Just trying to prove a point by saying in reality the LS1 is definetly better but not by a whole lot, just the general population of people do not understand that and they are naive. Race your buddy and shut his *** up!
What stealth said
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Cobalts are awesome

















if you have a vagina.
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