opinions wanted. more rpm or less gear?
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opinions wanted. more rpm or less gear?
im in a bit of a pickle. as my car sits right now i cant make it thru the traps under throttle. but it is very very close. i have to let off just before i trip the lights as it bumps the limiter at about 142. 7k rpm. it has a 4.10 gear in it right now and i have a dana 60 so my next step is a 3.73 which is a good jump down. im afraid how bad this will effect my motor runs on the 28" tire.
so basicly i can either bump the rev limiter a few hundred rpm which the motor should be able to take without any issues but its not making any power up there. or drop to a lesser rear gear. i would also like to cross with the nitrous active-it currently is shutting off about 134 with the window switch set at either 6500 or 6600 i forget....so lets here some opinions.
so basicly i can either bump the rev limiter a few hundred rpm which the motor should be able to take without any issues but its not making any power up there. or drop to a lesser rear gear. i would also like to cross with the nitrous active-it currently is shutting off about 134 with the window switch set at either 6500 or 6600 i forget....so lets here some opinions.
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Well, first of all, I would look into a 3.80- 3.90 range for a gear set, just to make sure. .
If they don't, which they may not, I feel that with the power you are making on spray, the 3.73 would still get teh job done. Even on motor, I feel that you are making enough power for teh 3.73's and 28". Might not be optimal on motor, but still should be good to go.
Also, do you not want to get rid of your limiter? Go faster? I mean, if there is a reason for it, share it. If not, get rid of it, and keep teh 4.10's for teh time being.
Also, you said 142 in one part and then 134 in another???
If they don't, which they may not, I feel that with the power you are making on spray, the 3.73 would still get teh job done. Even on motor, I feel that you are making enough power for teh 3.73's and 28". Might not be optimal on motor, but still should be good to go.
Also, do you not want to get rid of your limiter? Go faster? I mean, if there is a reason for it, share it. If not, get rid of it, and keep teh 4.10's for teh time being.
Also, you said 142 in one part and then 134 in another???
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Well, first of all, I would look into a 3.80- 3.90 range for a gear set, just to make sure. .
If they don't, which they may not, I feel that with the power you are making on spray, the 3.73 would still get teh job done. Even on motor, I feel that you are making enough power for teh 3.73's and 28". Might not be optimal on motor, but still should be good to go.
Also, do you not want to get rid of your limiter? Go faster? I mean, if there is a reason for it, share it. If not, get rid of it, and keep teh 4.10's for teh time being.
Also, you said 142 in one part and then 134 in another???
If they don't, which they may not, I feel that with the power you are making on spray, the 3.73 would still get teh job done. Even on motor, I feel that you are making enough power for teh 3.73's and 28". Might not be optimal on motor, but still should be good to go.
Also, do you not want to get rid of your limiter? Go faster? I mean, if there is a reason for it, share it. If not, get rid of it, and keep teh 4.10's for teh time being.
Also, you said 142 in one part and then 134 in another???
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Cheapest easiest thing first....bump the rev limiter up and see how the car reacts. If power falls off that bad im quite sure you will know it by the end of the run. If it slows up then u have the option of stepping up tire size, or going down with the gear.
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IMO run it out the backdoor to 7200-7300 rpms and run the nitrous to 7100 rpms. shift where you had been shifting, but just let it ride out through the traps. its much better than being on the rev limitor IMO. its only for a few moments its at that rpm and your motor is balanced and has plenty of ability to sustain that rpm for just a few moments (or much longer). IMO there is no reason to shut off the nitrous that early if you are continuing to make power.
running a smaller gear will really make your car less fun to drive on the street and a bigger tire takes a lot of work aka mini tub/hacking. i doubt you want to do that with a clean show car. also for as little as you race your car at the track and at those rpms, you will be fine. if you went rounds every week, i would suggest running a taller tire/smaller gear.
or you could just be slow like me
running a smaller gear will really make your car less fun to drive on the street and a bigger tire takes a lot of work aka mini tub/hacking. i doubt you want to do that with a clean show car. also for as little as you race your car at the track and at those rpms, you will be fine. if you went rounds every week, i would suggest running a taller tire/smaller gear.
or you could just be slow like me
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gears arent expensive, try the 3:73 and spray to 7K.
or on a seond thought, you could just bump up the rpm by 200 and spray the whole way.
or on a seond thought, you could just bump up the rpm by 200 and spray the whole way.
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ya i am def not cutting the car up. not at this point. maybe if i get serious with it one day but not now. i think im going to let it run out. i think its going to hurt me too much on motor with the 28" tire to drop to a 3.73 and having two sets of tires is a pain in the ***.
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What i would try 1st. is raise the limiter, make a pass, then raise the window switch, i'll bet once your done playing with both, the car will go faster ET & MPH, it does seem like your kicking the nitrous off too early, if you feel that the engine won't be hurt winding too 7500, set the limiter @ 76-7700, then start increasing the window switch in 200 rpm incremments, you may end up crossing @ 7500, but the Nitous will take you there, even though the engine quits making power @ say 7200.
Unless i missed it, what RPM are you crossing at now the way it sits at 142??
Unless i missed it, what RPM are you crossing at now the way it sits at 142??
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Well sounds like all youd have to do is bump it to about 7300 and youll be straight...unles you wanna go faster, in which case you will need to bump up the window switch as well.
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I got to playing with the calculator.
4.11s with 28" tire:
6900=140 mph
7000=142 mph Right there is a ploblem, your trapping at 142 @ 7000, you have the limiter set @ 7000, i would raise it to 73-7400
Now if you raise the window switch to try & go faster (say 7-7100), you'll most likely trap more MPH, & then you could raise the limiter to say 7500, heres what it said if you dare tread that high.
7200=146 mph
7300=148 mph
7400=150 mph
Now if you were to install 3.73s, this is what will happen too the trap RPMs if you trapped the same MPH.
3.73s with 28" tire:
6300=142 mph
6400=143 mph
6700=150 mph
4.11s with 28" tire:
6900=140 mph
7000=142 mph Right there is a ploblem, your trapping at 142 @ 7000, you have the limiter set @ 7000, i would raise it to 73-7400
Now if you raise the window switch to try & go faster (say 7-7100), you'll most likely trap more MPH, & then you could raise the limiter to say 7500, heres what it said if you dare tread that high.
7200=146 mph
7300=148 mph
7400=150 mph
Now if you were to install 3.73s, this is what will happen too the trap RPMs if you trapped the same MPH.
3.73s with 28" tire:
6300=142 mph
6400=143 mph
6700=150 mph