Which Torque Arm for my setup???
04-08-2009, 07:23 PM
#1
Which Torque Arm for my setup??? Car is a 99' Formula Firehawk, originally a 6sp and now switching over to a th400. The trans is not installed nor do I have a converter for it yet. Would like alittle help on which torque arm is best for my setup, so I know what crossmember to get. Mods-
375 ci
24x-25x cam
Th400 with neal chance converter, tbraked
qa1's at all 4 corners
Wolfe rear sway bar
umi double adj lca
umi double adj panhard bar
all front umi suspension, kmember, lowers, uppers etc
moser 12 bolt
28-10.5 et drags
weight approx 3200-3400lbs
has a very nice stainless true daul setup, which I would like to keep. But if I need a tunnel mount torque arm, then I will change exhaust setups. Car is lowered about 1 1/2 inches. I want the best setup possible, so if something needs to be changed, then I will do so. Car will be a strip only car. Any help would be appreciated!!
375 ci
24x-25x cam
Th400 with neal chance converter, tbraked
qa1's at all 4 corners
Wolfe rear sway bar
umi double adj lca
umi double adj panhard bar
all front umi suspension, kmember, lowers, uppers etc
moser 12 bolt
28-10.5 et drags
weight approx 3200-3400lbs
has a very nice stainless true daul setup, which I would like to keep. But if I need a tunnel mount torque arm, then I will change exhaust setups. Car is lowered about 1 1/2 inches. I want the best setup possible, so if something needs to be changed, then I will do so. Car will be a strip only car. Any help would be appreciated!!
04-08-2009, 08:12 PM
#3
You've got a racy car, this much is for sure. You're looking to run single digits I'm aure as well.
Here's your options, as I see them:
You can go with a different exhaust setup, and get a madman tq arm. This is a 100% proven piece that is a guarintee'd winner for a track car, it's racy for a street car for sure, but I wouldn't be afraid to run one personally.
If you don't want to do a different exhaust, you can take the route I went, which was a stock style adjustable arm ( I run a chromoly bmr piece) and a bmr crossmember with tq arm relocation. this mounts the tq arm on an adjustable height mount, so that you get some of the adjustment ability like a madman arm and will allow you to leave your exhaust as it is.
Now which will work better? I can not say 100%. Madman's arm has put more cars in the win column then any other setup, especially FAST cars, so it's something that doesn't have to be proven, it's a guarintee'd working setup. The setup that I run, will and can work, can it work as well, I don't know becasue I haven't gone from one to the other, at least not yet. I have been able to get the car on the bumper, and with a set of madman's limiters on the car now it will see a mid to high 1.3x 60 foot on a decent track with about 625 rwhp @ 3350 lbs... so it is working fairly well.
The burkhart piece is also a proven design, similar to a madman but shorter I do believe. PAF also has a good tq arm, wolfe makes a very nice piece as well. All of which are more race orientated then the bmr setup I'm running, which there's similar offerings made by UMI as well.
Hopefully this helps, if you have more questions... ask away!
Here's your options, as I see them:
You can go with a different exhaust setup, and get a madman tq arm. This is a 100% proven piece that is a guarintee'd winner for a track car, it's racy for a street car for sure, but I wouldn't be afraid to run one personally.
If you don't want to do a different exhaust, you can take the route I went, which was a stock style adjustable arm ( I run a chromoly bmr piece) and a bmr crossmember with tq arm relocation. this mounts the tq arm on an adjustable height mount, so that you get some of the adjustment ability like a madman arm and will allow you to leave your exhaust as it is.
Now which will work better? I can not say 100%. Madman's arm has put more cars in the win column then any other setup, especially FAST cars, so it's something that doesn't have to be proven, it's a guarintee'd working setup. The setup that I run, will and can work, can it work as well, I don't know becasue I haven't gone from one to the other, at least not yet. I have been able to get the car on the bumper, and with a set of madman's limiters on the car now it will see a mid to high 1.3x 60 foot on a decent track with about 625 rwhp @ 3350 lbs... so it is working fairly well.
The burkhart piece is also a proven design, similar to a madman but shorter I do believe. PAF also has a good tq arm, wolfe makes a very nice piece as well. All of which are more race orientated then the bmr setup I'm running, which there's similar offerings made by UMI as well.
Hopefully this helps, if you have more questions... ask away!
04-08-2009, 08:18 PM
#5
You've got a racy car, this much is for sure. You're looking to run single digits I'm aure as well.
Here's your options, as I see them:
You can go with a different exhaust setup, and get a madman tq arm. This is a 100% proven piece that is a guarintee'd winner for a track car, it's racy for a street car for sure, but I wouldn't be afraid to run one personally.
If you don't want to do a different exhaust, you can take the route I went, which was a stock style adjustable arm ( I run a chromoly bmr piece) and a bmr crossmember with tq arm relocation. this mounts the tq arm on an adjustable height mount, so that you get some of the adjustment ability like a madman arm and will allow you to leave your exhaust as it is.
Now which will work better? I can not say 100%. Madman's arm has put more cars in the win column then any other setup, especially FAST cars, so it's something that doesn't have to be proven, it's a guarintee'd working setup. The setup that I run, will and can work, can it work as well, I don't know becasue I haven't gone from one to the other, at least not yet. I have been able to get the car on the bumper, and with a set of madman's limiters on the car now it will see a mid to high 1.3x 60 foot on a decent track with about 625 rwhp @ 3350 lbs... so it is working fairly well.
The burkhart piece is also a proven design, similar to a madman but shorter I do believe. PAF also has a good tq arm, wolfe makes a very nice piece as well. All of which are more race orientated then the bmr setup I'm running, which there's similar offerings made by UMI as well.
Hopefully this helps, if you have more questions... ask away!
Here's your options, as I see them:
You can go with a different exhaust setup, and get a madman tq arm. This is a 100% proven piece that is a guarintee'd winner for a track car, it's racy for a street car for sure, but I wouldn't be afraid to run one personally.
If you don't want to do a different exhaust, you can take the route I went, which was a stock style adjustable arm ( I run a chromoly bmr piece) and a bmr crossmember with tq arm relocation. this mounts the tq arm on an adjustable height mount, so that you get some of the adjustment ability like a madman arm and will allow you to leave your exhaust as it is.
Now which will work better? I can not say 100%. Madman's arm has put more cars in the win column then any other setup, especially FAST cars, so it's something that doesn't have to be proven, it's a guarintee'd working setup. The setup that I run, will and can work, can it work as well, I don't know becasue I haven't gone from one to the other, at least not yet. I have been able to get the car on the bumper, and with a set of madman's limiters on the car now it will see a mid to high 1.3x 60 foot on a decent track with about 625 rwhp @ 3350 lbs... so it is working fairly well.
The burkhart piece is also a proven design, similar to a madman but shorter I do believe. PAF also has a good tq arm, wolfe makes a very nice piece as well. All of which are more race orientated then the bmr setup I'm running, which there's similar offerings made by UMI as well.
Hopefully this helps, if you have more questions... ask away!
How is your exhaust ran?
04-08-2009, 08:21 PM
#6
Dual 3.5 inch pipes to a super 44 muffler on each side, then about another 14 inches of pipe that turns out in front of the rear tires.
No x or h, just 2 pieces, that are solid mounted to the car, and a tab with a bolt holds them on teh collectors (little ear type tab on the exhaust and welded to the header collector)
I'm running a motor plate so the motor doesn't move at all, making the solid mount not a concern. Being mounted solid also allowed the exhaust to be tucked within a 1/16 of an inch from the chassis and it never, not once ever vibrated and hit the car.
No x or h, just 2 pieces, that are solid mounted to the car, and a tab with a bolt holds them on teh collectors (little ear type tab on the exhaust and welded to the header collector)
I'm running a motor plate so the motor doesn't move at all, making the solid mount not a concern. Being mounted solid also allowed the exhaust to be tucked within a 1/16 of an inch from the chassis and it never, not once ever vibrated and hit the car.
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04-09-2009, 10:38 AM
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spohn has a nice piece. but if this is all out racecar id run a madman. only reason i didnt get one for my build is cost but from wat ive heard its worth the price
