aug181983

iTrader: (3)

First off the car is a 1996 still obd2 and i currently have a 383 build with 13.1 compression ratio with ported intake and a 58mm t.b.......its a a4 with a 3600+ stall (depending on the head cam setup)
and will be spraying atleast 200 on this setup
so i need a head that will flow the numbers needed to make this engine come alive

i hope this is enough information for you guys


I was thinking of going with SpeedInc. H/I package for $1100 plus core but i dont know if there going to be any good with my set up since there rated equal to a LE1 Or maybe some Darts 200cc threw Ebay $1390shipped . I was also thinking ......Ai 190cc$1395 + Core* - Complete, Assembled, & Ready to Bolt-Oni just want the best bang for under $1500 cause im going to have to buy a Port/Polished intake to match the heads.I am about to blow my head off if i dont figure out what the hell to do

thanks

SPEEDYTRANSAM1996

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i like the afr 227 but those are a arm and a leg. I think those Darts will do the job but of course the Afr's are the way to go. LE3 package is pretty nice but you said under 1500 so i think the Darts would be the way to go since there equal to the LE2 and you can sell your stockers.

robsquikz28

iTrader: (246)

just dish out the cash and get the trickflow 215's and they will be ur best bet...perfect for n/a and even better with the nitrous

aug181983

iTrader: (3)

anyone.........

RamAir95TA

iTrader: (2)

Do you mean 13.1 compression? You need to provide more details on your current mods, year car, etc., before anyone can make any educated evaluation on what you should run. The more info the better.

vanilla89

iTrader: (8)

with a -5cc piston with a 383 you can get it 13:1 with stock ported heads. My 383 is close to 13:1 and I have LE2 heads.

aug181983

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edited my question

thanks guys

RamAir95TA

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So you're planning on running 13.0:1 static compression (no mention of dynamic), with a 200 shot, on a set of $1500 cylinder heads? Ugh.

Buying the Dart or TFS heads and using them out of the box is a mistake. The real value from purchasing these heads is the porting potential that they offer.

I'm running around 12.5:1 static with a 383 with AI 200cc heads. Don't assume that you need to go with an aftermarket casting, because for most applications, ported stock-castings will more than suffice.

Puck

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Out of the box aftermarkets would be a mistake on an aggressive build like that. Porting some aftermarket heads would really take that combo to a new level, but depending on what you want to do with the car and your budget ported stockers may be a better option for you.

aug181983

iTrader: (3)

ya 13.1compression and of course all the supporting mods. Im more concerned about the heads since i cant figure out which way to go under $1500 assembled with springs,guide plate ect. What so bad about the Darts and like "speedytransam1996" said they are equal to the le2 cause i was looking around on here and others say the samething.----how bout the trickflows 195cc
http://www.trickflow.com/partdetail....0&autoview=sku

SPEEDYTRANSAM1996

iTrader: (37)

the Dart 200CC heads flow 275CFM at .600 lift which is exactly what LE2's say they flow per there website. Dart Pro 1s, 200 cc; $1,350. On the shelf, ready to ship, delivered to your door and ready to bolt on. Sell your current heads and re-coupe some of the cost.

slomarao

iTrader: (6)

Have LE work the Darts.

Are you going with a N20 or NA grind cam?

Please tell us the goals and plans for the car?

aug181983

iTrader: (3)

goals-11.20 on motor or better with a 2-250 shot id like to see 10's
lca,phb,tqr arm,kyb adj. stock trans,all supporting mods

i'd like to get a nice NA cam since i dont want to be spraying the motor always unless i have to since im going to install a hidden kit.

getting the Darts P/P threw LE wouldnt be poss.since i only have a 1500 budget

94Z28rag

iTrader: (10)

You need to listen to this. Be smart about it or you'll have an under performing setup.

RamAir95TA

iTrader: (2)

You don't grasp the concept of going fast and the expense it takes to get there, do you? Read the advice, and respond with your thoughts.

slomarao

iTrader: (6)

Well the stock trans on a 250 shot on the stock 350 wouldnt work for a second. Now that your putting 400rwhp instead of 250rwhp, and than a 200-250 shot....Your going to need something strong.

What rear you planin on using? the ten bolt? Rubber? The shocks would also need to go.



You need to get a bigger budget or smaller goals.

Puck

iTrader: (17)

Often the case .

A 250 shot would not only not work well with an NA cam, but will need new pretty much everything - pistons, rods, rear end, transmission, cam, heads, fuel system, tires, gears, stall, cage if you want to run at the track, VERY good tune, etc.

The price will skyrocket well into the 5 digit range to build a true complete car ready to fully utilize a 250 shot safely.

PS: Why bottleneck such an aggressive high end build with a $1500 head limit? The heads are the most important part of any build and should have been where a big chuck of the engine fund went to.

joelster

AFR 227's out of the box would work very well.

aug181983

iTrader: (3)

its a forged bottom end and ill probably go with le2 or le3 with a Nos cam after all so i dont blow anything up with the compression being so high.

za355tx

iTrader: (108)

Compression that high will be ok. Lloyd's old car seems to love it. Sorry Vanilla I don't know your name I know the car is yours now. Do some LE2 heads and get a cam from Lloyd. Obviously Lloyd's old car is doing just fine with a stroker motor and LE2's with high compression. If you get a cam from him too all you have to do is come up with about $200 more than you said your budget was to cover the cam and shipping. That's your best bet.