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Old 04-28-2009, 10:08 PM
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Since I've got my heads off, I'm gonna go ahead and clean the carbon deposits off the pistons. Is there anything wrong with using carb cleaner/brake cleaner to get it off? Also, after I clean them, there shouldn't be anything wrong with washing the cylinders down with brake cleaner, is there?
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Brake cleaner is fine, thats what I use. And it's good that you're doing that, a lot of people don't and it's really silly not to while the heads are off.

To make life easier you can use a really fine bristle wire wheel brush and a battery operated power drill (DO NOT use an air tool, it's too much rpm and will sling off some of the bristles). This job can be done in 15 minutes using one of those. That includes bringing each piston to TDC, wiping down the cyl walls, etc.
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Amazing. I had used a wire brush by hand on them and got most of it off, but not all. Thanks for the tips. Gonna get me a straight razor to get the rest of it off... O'reileys brake cleaner for 2 bucks a can, dumdumdum
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be careful with the straight razor, it might scratch the pistons.
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Personally I am not nuts on the idea if washing the cylinders with brake cleaner. I use oil, which as you turn the motor over will lube the cylinders and leaves any gunk at the top of the cylinder where you can wipe it off.
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It really depends how caked they are. |
On some I've been able to use gasoline to clean them.
On some I used brake cleaner, then wipe with gasoline, then squirt fresh thin film of oil and when all done, change the oil and filter. A couple of revolutions by hand (to oil the rings again), then wipe at TDC with an absorbant lint free cloth.
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Oil on top of the pistons? Remember I'm not taking the pistons themselves out, so maybe it's a good idea to go ahead and wipe at BDC the upper portion of the cylinder wall with oil to ensure its lubed?
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Sea Foam on a rag works really well to remove carbon deposits.
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Originally Posted by ramdaspadhye
Oil on top of the pistons? Remember I'm not taking the pistons themselves out, so maybe it's a good idea to go ahead and wipe at BDC the upper portion of the cylinder wall with oil to ensure its lubed?
LOL Not in an amount that you might think, and before it is fired they are wiped again with absorbant cloth.
The amount that bypasses into your intake would be more than that.
Bottom line pistons are dry when reassembling.
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I use lacquer thinner. It wipes right off.
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Originally Posted by ramdaspadhye
Oil on top of the pistons? Remember I'm not taking the pistons themselves out, so maybe it's a good idea to go ahead and wipe at BDC the upper portion of the cylinder wall with oil to ensure its lubed?
No, on the cylinder walls. I was under the impression that you were washing down the cylinder walls with brake cleaner which would leave them exposed to moisture in the air (a serious problem where I live) and result in dry start. I always wipe the cylinders down with oil and then turn it over to minimize the residual in the cylinder but ensure there is lubrication for cranking and start-up.
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I've used Carb Cleaner. Carbon comes right off. Also, I'd wipe the cylinders with a little oil. Won't hurt!
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I appreciate the help guys! Going to get my heads milled and cleaned up sometime this week! Kinda off topic, but what are the going rates on CNC porting heads now-a-days? I was quoted 800 for a set of 317's to be fully CNC'ed
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That is about right, last quote I had was 700$, it all depends who is doing it.
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I always like a soft bristle brush, a few rags, and brakleen. I wouls never consider a wire wheel on aluminum, too easy to make a mistake. Brass brushes, and plastic brushes work well.


Even on iron, be careful...
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THink it'd be worth it to have them CNC'd? What size runners would I need to shoot for in a 6.0 with a 224/230 .609/.605 with the 317's milled .040? 205cc?
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Usualy the programs are in the 230 area for those heads
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230cc runners??? screw that, I will have 0 torque :/
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on a 6L....sure you would.

more cubes means you can use a bigger runner....to an extent.

if guys are running reasonable torque with 225cc runners on 346s....why would a 230cc be too much for a 364?
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PM Bo White, he still does some work on the side and does really good job. He did a set of 317s for me with stock valves and small runners and they flowed 29x range on all cylinders. Hand porting.


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