sspower23

01 camaro SS completely stock. Been researching and heres what I am considering to buy. Let Me know what you think and if you can improve on the following list without stretching My budget of $5060.

Strange Dana 60 w/ 4.11s ($2100)
Driveshaft ($400)
LT headers ($370)
RAM or SPEC clutch? (good for 700hp) ($400)
PRC LS6 stg 2.5 CNC fully ported heads ($1400)
Texas Giant cam 248/254 .620+ lift 112 lsa ($390)
Tune

I wish to run with the C6 ZO6. With these mods, can I take 'em? Always wanted one but couldnt afford one so just gonna upgrade the camaro and hopefully beat 'em.

How much RWHP will these mods get Me?

Monkey_fuerte

You dont plan on running the stock catback with that setup, do you?
And I'm no expert on cams, but I think that 248/254 is just a bit big for street use. Is this actually your DD, or do you plan to exclusively have this as a track car.

If you do end up running that much HP, make sure you save up enough for a T56 rebuild. It's gonna go fast with a stage 3 clutch/12 bolt/heavy right foot.

Brief Encounter

iTrader: (6)

dont forget all of the supporting mods........

pushrods
lifters
oil pump
gaskets
lifters
exhaust work
intake & throttle body
injectors
fuel pump


plus at least 2k in suspension.
LCA's
shocks
springs
tires

u've got a long way to go.
but its a start.

you're about half-way there

hammertime

iTrader: (1)

Glad to see that you've thoroughly researched your combo
Lesson 1 in Automotive Performance - The largest camshaft available for your engine is NOT going to be suitable for a daily driver. I guess you have a plan for passing smog with that monster already?

Perhaps you would be better off to call Texas Speed and tell them what you are looking to do.

98ssconversion

everyone wants that big cam tho! no one blames you! I wish my car wasnt a damn dd! But deffinitely dont forget those supporting mods! Or stuff would go down hill quickly and repairs would cost more than what the parts would. Good ideas though, deffinitely gunna be fun!

Evans752

iTrader: (29)

Hey there, first off the Strange Dana 60 (a must or 12 bolt of some type Strange or Moser ect) GREAT MOD REGARDLESS, driveshaft well I still have my stock one in my 1998 SS so you can do with out it untill it breaks, clutch wise SPEC is the only way to go and I LOVE mine and wouldn't trade it for no other clutch out there, longtubes are great and the only way to go but you say $370.00 for a set??, what brand because my FLP cost $1200.00, KOOKS is what I would buy if it where me or something like I have FLP but mine came with Y pipe, off road pipes and converters and I see you live in California so you will have to pass emmisions, as far as heads save your money up and do it one time and buy the Trick Flows and be done with it, and that cam you have spec out is BIG with a lot of duration and lift WHY?? do you need that much cam??, and the a real good tune will make just about any setup drivable, but you will need injectors, pushrods, valve springs, ect but GOOD LUCK on your car and I wish you the BEST on what ever set up you go with. PS as far as the C6 Z06 go you will need a real good set of drag radials and you need to remember that the Vettes are 300lb or so lighter and ate 505hp cars but thats not to ground I know but big cube cars, light weight and SUPER CARS dervived off of the C6R race cars just a street version.

00MaroonZ28

iTrader: (3)

With that cam it's gonna be a dog on the street.

HitmanLS1

iTrader: (16)

You are gonna have one helluva setup.Good Luck on your build.

jason00ss

iTrader: (2)

not tryin to bash your post but be careful with the moser rearends, alot of people don't like them and have had problems with them, something to do with the torque arm mount on them. if you read the manual tranny forum, spec isn't as loved as they used to be, monster is actually the way to go anymore, but to each their own. pacesetter sells long tube headers for decent prices, you don't need to spend $1200 on SLP or Kooks. although the trick flows WILL make some more power than the PRC's, to me its not worth the almost $1000 extra when i can go spend that extra money elsewhere.
DISCLAIMER: i am by no means an expert, just some information that i've learned from reading on here, just my .02

Monkey_fuerte

Good point. I didnt even notice he was from Cali.

Well, if you need to pass smog with this thing, then it's really gonna limit your cam options. My brother had to put a 224/224 in his LT1 to BARELY pass smog.

SMOKNSS

iTrader: (3)

If thats your DD I would say back to the drawing board on your cam selection. Large cams have hidden cost, such as Piston to Valve clearance, loss in drivability, head/intake flow requirements, Special valvetrain needs, and I didn't see that you had a rotating assembly listed. Spining that high is gonna be taking a toll on your factory rod bolts over time..... ever wonder why cammed cars with s stock short spin bearings instead of just coming apart? Since its your DD and given your budget I would just be looking into some boost or get some nice heads, a nice streetable cam (custom grind or shop of your choice recommendation) and spray it. Either way you are fully capable of being over 500rwhp. Which would make you a contender and if it doesn't spin too much one hell of a street car. Good luck and I hope this helps.

02*C5

iTrader: (1)

I will agree with you. So many people think that power alone is going to help you run with a C6 ZO6. Brute Force is not what the ZO6 is, but a delicate balance of power and engineering that other cars do not have.

A better cam to start with would be a AZPS02 power with a little better drive ability. I think the specs are 235/242 615/615 112 or 114LSA your looking with the right set up in a manual tranny 450+ RWHP.

LS6427

iTrader: (2)

Back in 2001 people were getting close to 500 RWHP with radical H/C kits. Like Morgan Motorsports with their Aggressor 500 package. But man, they were crazy idling engines and not very daily driver friendly. For stock cubes, not much has changed with H/C kits because the weak link is the "stock cubes". Unless you increase compression and use race gas 500 RWHP is about all you'll get with 346 cubes. BUT....your torque is gonna be way down compared to the C6 Z06.

I have a 427ci with just under 500 RWHP but I have almost 500 RWTQ too. I raced my friends C6 Z06 4 times. All from rolls around 30-40-50-60mph. I pulled on him every time until about 130-140, then he was creeping up on me and probably would have passed me, but we'd be going way fast by that time. He has since done porting/cam/exhaust...he's putting down 590 RWHP.....now I lose

I think a stock C6 Z06 is just gonna do the same to you at the start of any kind of race because of the torque, but the C6 Z06 will have matching RWHP. Once they get going...OH BOY!!!!

I say, get a more street friendly cam and add a 100 dry shot to that list and you'll beat a stock C6 Z06 all day long. Your stock cubes are the problem.

But beware....don't race one who ported their heads and upgraded their cam and exhaust........they'll have upwards of 620 RWHP.

.

TransAmcoupe98

iTrader: (10)

Here is my recommendation and I'm sure others will chime in.

-The Dana is a good choice stay with that
-Kooks Longtubes with Off-road Y pipe ($1350)
-Torquer V.2 cam package w/ springs and pushrods
-Monster Clutch level 3.5
-LS6 intake
-Stock 243 castings. Can get them used for around 400-500 bucks
-37# fuel injectors
-Tune

That should keep you around 5k if you do the work yourself.

00MaroonZ28

iTrader: (3)

Mill the 243's to 59cc for the added compression and get the pistons flycut for the cam. Give you a little added power.

z28_YOU_HO

iTrader: (7)

Do some suspension work, full bolt ons and spray the 150 pills and call it a day. It will hang with the c6 if not pull it. While also being very streetable off the bottle

Tune also for the 150

sspower23

Ok so thanks for the feed back. Somehow 500rwhp naturally aspirated doesnt seem that appealing so maybe boost might be better for achieving that 500rwhp? The emissions is a problem but once you pass its good for 2 yrs!

What and who should I buy from a Turbo or supercharger or procharger from? Could I just slap it right on to My stock 01 camaro SS or do I have to upgrade before adding the boost-adder?

TransAmcoupe98

iTrader: (10)

There are people that run Procharger or APS twin turbos etc on stock bottom ends but its pretty much a ticking time bomb. Once you start to make around 550ish WHP, that bottom end will start to become a factor, starting with the rod bolts. Don't think that forced induction is the cheap route. I've been all through it and it is not cheaper in any way shape or form. The cheapest way to go will be nitrous without a doubt. IMO, forced induction is the classy way to go for that power.

00MaroonZ28

iTrader: (3)

I've seen D1SC Prochargers make well over 500 to the wheel and be very streetable.

Gaunt

iTrader: (11)

Judging by your mod list, you are going to need to double your bugdget if you want it done correctly. It's the little **** that ends up getting you in the end. Ask anyone on this forum, and they will tell you the same thing