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Old 04-11-2010, 09:43 PM
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Okay so I have to replace my clutch fairly soon but not sure what to go with.

My two options are a Monster Stage 2 premium package (need a slave cylinder)

or the LS7 Clutch kit and a GM slave cylinder


2002 M6 Camaro Z28 making 409whp 392wtq
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBz28
Okay so I have to replace my clutch fairly soon but not sure what to go with.

My two options are a Monster Stage 2 premium package (need a slave cylinder)

or the LS7 Clutch kit and a GM slave cylinder


2002 M6 Camaro Z28 making 409whp 392wtq
go stage Monster stage 3...

Youre on fastlsx right?

It holds up well, drives great. Ive cut 1.42 60's, 41 passes last year, hot lapped alot with almost no visible wear to the disk, pp, or flywheel. 3500 street miles too. Just had it out for inspection.

The LS7 sucks...
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Originally Posted by BADD SS
go stage Monster stage 3...

Youre on fastlsx right?

It holds up well, drives great. Ive cut 1.42 60's, 41 passes last year, hot lapped alot with almost no visible wear to the disk, pp, or flywheel. 3500 street miles too. Just had it out for inspection.

The LS7 sucks...
Yeah I'm on FastLSX

Monster Stage 3 is a pucked clutch right? Doesn't it put too much pressure on the stock rear?
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBz28
Yeah I'm on FastLSX

Monster Stage 3 is a pucked clutch right? Doesn't it put too much pressure on the stock rear?
For me it drove like a stock clutch even though it's a six puck. Only thing stressing the rear is the driver IMO.
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Originally Posted by BADD SS
For me it drove like a stock clutch even though it's a six puck. Only thing stressing the rear is the driver IMO.


hm okay thanks
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I've honestly heard a lot of good about the LS7 clutch....saying it sucks doesn't help, if you have some specific example I'd be interested in hearing about it too.

There's a lot of people on here that run the LS7 clutch, and I haven't heard anything really bad if you're not putting out too much power. Also, quite a bit cheaper than the Monster.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBz28
Monster Stage 3 is a pucked clutch right?
Yes but the 3.5 isn't.
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Originally Posted by GT-OH
Yes but the 3.5 isn't.
Monster 3.5? They make a 3.5?
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Where is a good place to buy an Ls7 Clutch kit????

If its cheaper than the Monster, you made up my mind! Why not save money!

Especially if it has no bad reviews! Have been searching and not found 1!
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Originally Posted by Z06vsZ28
Where is a good place to buy an Ls7 Clutch kit????

If its cheaper than the Monster, you made up my mind! Why not save money!

Especially if it has no bad reviews! Have been searching and not found 1!


https://ls1tech.com/forums/sponsor-s...ches-sdpc.html


No problem haha
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The Ls7 is safe to say good with small bolt-ons and mayb bigger future mods?? What can it handle??

Hey thanks by the way Johnny.. def. gna check it out!
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Yea so i called that number on the link in his post.. the ****** whoever was answering the phones has been hanging up on me all day with out even saying a word!! 3xs in a fkin row!!! Forget that s*** ill take my business and $$$ somewhere else!
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Originally Posted by Z06vsZ28
The Ls7 is safe to say good with small bolt-ons and mayb bigger future mods?? What can it handle??

Hey thanks by the way Johnny.. def. gna check it out!
LS7 clutch is built to handle at least 505 fwhp (hence, LS7, hehe)....beyond that I don't know how long it would last
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Originally Posted by 99FormulaM6r
I've honestly heard a lot of good about the LS7 clutch....saying it sucks doesn't help, if you have some specific example I'd be interested in hearing about it too.

There's a lot of people on here that run the LS7 clutch, and I haven't heard anything really bad if you're not putting out too much power. Also, quite a bit cheaper than the Monster.
I've run more clutches then you have mods, so it's safe to say I have experience there. I make 439 rwhp, about 30 more than the op. I have toasted every clutch but this one. But I drag race a lot, 6500 rpm dumps and 7200 rpm shifts. I drive this car in nice weather and have never had a clutch do BOTH well until now. The ls7 is great until you put sticky tires on, or race it a lot. And saying it was designed for 505 hp means **** since they usually go by torque ratings. Needless to say our stock clutches can't hold up to stock power and most aftermarket ones slip well before the torque rating they claim.
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Originally Posted by BADD SS
I've run more clutches then you have mods, so it's safe to say I have experience there. I make 439 rwhp, about 30 more than the op. I have toasted every clutch but this one. But I drag race a lot, 6500 rpm dumps and 7200 rpm shifts. I drive this car in nice weather and have never had a clutch do BOTH well until now. The ls7 is great until you put sticky tires on, or race it a lot. And saying it was designed for 505 hp means **** since they usually go by torque ratings. Needless to say our stock clutches can't hold up to stock power and most aftermarket ones slip well before the torque rating they claim.
This is very true. I had an ACT clutch in my old fwd car that was rated at 475 tq and it was destroyed after 8-10k miles..........car was making 390fwhp and 370fwtq....



Based on the responses I've received I am going to go with either a Monster or a Textralia
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+1 for the Monster stage 3.
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Originally Posted by 1badSS
+1 for the Monster stage 3.
Yeah checking prices on the Monster Stage 3.5 premium package
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBz28
Monster 3.5? They make a 3.5?
I know they used too. I don't see it on the site anymore. You could always give them a call if you really don't want the puck design. I would def go with the Monster 3. Yeah the Z06 will hold right now but its always nice to have that added security if you make even more RWHP.
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Originally Posted by GT-OH
I know they used too. I don't see it on the site anymore. You could always give them a call if you really don't want the puck design. I would def go with the Monster 3. Yeah the Z06 will hold right now but its always nice to have that added security if you make even more RWHP.
I found the 3.5 on ws6store.com but no where else. I have a local shop checking for me now.
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Originally Posted by BADD SS
I've run more clutches then you have mods, so it's safe to say I have experience there. I make 439 rwhp, about 30 more than the op. I have toasted every clutch but this one. But I drag race a lot, 6500 rpm dumps and 7200 rpm shifts. I drive this car in nice weather and have never had a clutch do BOTH well until now. The ls7 is great until you put sticky tires on, or race it a lot. And saying it was designed for 505 hp means **** since they usually go by torque ratings. Needless to say our stock clutches can't hold up to stock power and most aftermarket ones slip well before the torque rating they claim.
Sorry if I have offended you. But saying "The LS7 sucks..." isn't helpful at all. It's like saying "Pacesetter's suck" or "Flowmaster sucks"....it's nice to hear a reason behind it. I can't see your experience with clutches by looking at your post, and just saying something sucks without any explanation makes you look like an ***.

Now that you've actually explained it, I understand what you're saying. If you're even close to reaching the torque rating (sorry, I guess I didn't understand what they rated clutches off of) you're better off getting something better. Even the LS7 clutch on the Z06 would no doubt fail if it was put through 6500 rpm dumps and was shifted past 7000 rpm over time....but for most users I think the LS7 is fine, and has been used with zero problems by many on this forum. If you're doing a lot of racing, are putting out a lot of power, or are going to seriously stress your setup, I can see that the Monster would be your best bet.

Not everybody does 6500 rpm clutch dumps, shifts past 7000 rpm, and is putting out 439 rwhp however....and I think it's for those people that aren't that saving a few hundred dollars on the LS7 makes sense



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