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Can I 9 second in the 1/4 with 150 shot or will I need more with my setup?

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Old 05-21-2010, 06:45 AM
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Default Can I 9 second in the 1/4 with 150 shot or will I need more with my setup?

Alright with my t56 I had a best of 11.61 NA and I ran out of gas at the end of the track and lost 7mph off my usual trap speed! I really think I would have hit 11.4s. Anyhow I have now converted to a th350 so I think maybe 11.2s or better. I know this is guessing but if you saw how slow my shifting was with the t56 you would see why the th350 should help me alot.

Anyhow would 150 shot work? or do you think I would need more? I have taken off everybit of my a/c, power steering, rear seats, radio before I ever started drag racing. So the times you see above I did already take the weight out. Also I think it is an odyssey battery that I will be replacing my bulky heavy battery with. Let me know what you guys think? Thanks a bunch.

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I don't see 9's with a mere 150 shot. But hopefully you can prove me wrong! Good luck man!
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Sorry but I dont see 9's either with just the transmission change. Maybe high 10's unless you plan on throwing more spray at it.
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Originally Posted by derekderek
Sorry but I dont see 9's either with just the transmission change. Maybe high 10's unless you plan on throwing more spray at it.
If I can only get high 10's I'll be pissed. I got just about every suspension mod possible and can possibly hit low 11's NA with the tranny change. I'd be happy with mid 10's.
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When my 355"LT1 ran 11.20-40's on motor depending on weather track conditions etc.. with the same CC306cam and heads you are running, The car would consistantly run 10.30's@130mph on 150HP n2o and this was after tuning so definately not 9's on a 150shot from where you are. You will need to change your gears and or tires to be able to cross the traps on n2o w/o hitting the factory PCM rev limit which is 6900rpms with OBD1 or someguys claim 7200-7300 with OBD2. I was running 3.42's at the time so that gives you an idea. Once I stepped up the n2o and got my 60's down to low 1.4's, I did run 9.80's-9.90's@136mph but not consistantly. You should have no problems running mid to low 10's on a 150shot once you get the gear, conveter and suspension just right. Later Clint
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Originally Posted by T/ALT1
When my 355"LT1 ran 11.20-40's on motor depending on weather track conditions etc.. with the same CC306cam and heads you are running, The car would consistantly run 10.30's@130mph on 150HP n2o and this was after tuning so definately not 9's on a 150shot from where you are. You will need to change your gears and or tires to be able to cross the traps on n2o w/o hitting the factory PCM rev limit which is 6900rpms with OBD1 or someguys claim 7200-7300 with OBD2. I was running 3.42's at the time so that gives you an idea. Once I stepped up the n2o and got my 60's down to low 1.4's, I did run 9.80's-9.90's@136mph but not consistantly. You should have no problems running mid to low 10's on a 150shot once you get the gear, conveter and suspension just right. Later Clint
Yeah I should have mentioned I will be changing gears and or tires. I can do a 200 shot. Just wondering if 150 was enough. With correct gearing/suspension/etc will a 200 shot be enough you think to each 9's?
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IMO I think with a lot of tuning/seat time and ALL of the supporting mods (which it sounds like you have) a 150 shot will do it or will be pretty damn close
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Wait maybe I didnt read the first post right. The current time is with or without the 150shot? I was reading it as you are currently spraying 150shot to get you your 11.2 or what ever and the only thing you change was the transmission. If thats not the case sorry for the misread there.
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Originally Posted by derekderek
Wait maybe I didnt read the first post right. The current time is with or without the 150shot? I was reading it as you are currently spraying 150shot to get you your 11.2 or what ever and the only thing you change was the transmission. If thats not the case sorry for the misread there.
Yeah that is without nitrous. You really made me feel like crap. Haha. No prob man
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possible yes...how likely is up for grabs.

If you can run get a "good" launch...I.E. 1.3 60's times it is possible to see a high 9 on just the 150 shot.
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I disagree with Ray, I say you will need a 200 shot to manage a 9sec pass. But if you can get a 1.3 launch then you might get a 9. But it all depends on your suspension setup and when the spray kicks on as well.
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Originally Posted by robsquikz28
I disagree with Ray, I say you will need a 200 shot to manage a 9sec pass. But if you can get a 1.3 launch then you might get a 9. But it all depends on your suspension setup and when the spray kicks on as well.
I don't disagree that is will most likely take 200 to get there...but it is "possible" on the 150.

A good friend of mine went 10.3 on a 100 shot with a very similar setup to the OP's car...he only made a couple passes on the 150 jets, all in the 10.0 range. No reason why with some additional track adjustments he wouldn't have gone into the 9's
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Originally Posted by Ray@Nitrous Outlet
I don't disagree that is will most likely take 200 to get there...but it is "possible" on the 150.

A good friend of mine went 10.3 on a 100 shot with a very similar setup to the OP's car...he only made a couple passes on the 150 jets, all in the 10.0 range. No reason why with some additional track adjustments he wouldn't have gone into the 9's
Hey Ray I just called nitrous outlet a couple hours ago and was asking questions about retarding, adding timing, and if y'all sold more fuel jets for the brand x system so I could fine tune my engine. I also said Moe Bailey tuned my car all motor. Anyways just wondered if you was the one I talked to and letting you know I am the guy trying to hit high 9's. If it wasn't you whoever took the call was very nice and helpful.
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Originally Posted by djm_e22
With correct gearing/suspension/etc will a 200 shot be enough you think to each 9's?


Yes, once you really get the car dialed in i could see you going 9.70-9.80's. But I do think it will take a 200 and a great: trans,gear,stall,cam match.

It wouldnt hurt things if you could sell your topend in favor of a le2 setup, or at least get a bigger SR cam?? You already have a race car suspension, why not have a racecar motor??

Whats in the bottom end??
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Originally Posted by slomarao
Yes, once you really get the car dialed in i could see you going 9.70-9.80's. But I do think it will take a 200 and a great: trans,gear,stall,cam match.

It wouldnt hurt things if you could sell your topend in favor of a le2 setup, or at least get a bigger SR cam?? You already have a race car suspension, why not have a racecar motor??

Whats in the bottom end??
It is a completely forged bottom end, but I went with studded arp two bolt mains. I wish I would have splayed it. But I have heard a good amount of people spraying a 200 shot without any problems on studded two bolt mains. I'll think about having my le1 heads turned into le2 heads, but if I was to go solid roller and spin it higher than I already do, I probably would take my motor apart and get splayed mains first.

Also when I got my motor build I asked him to gap the rings for 150 shot. So I am afraid to do a 200 shot, but then again I know people that do 150 shot on a stock block so those rings are gapped for no shot of nitrous. So with that in mind would it really hurt to do the 200 shot with the rings gapped for only 150 shot?
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Order the pills and hit hard dont worry about the what-ifs. lol On a serious note its all money I say hit it hard if it takes it let it rip if not spend more and meet your goal! Sounds like you have one in mind!
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I say yes its possible. 200 will really make sure it happens sooner than later.
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It should have the power to do so, however it will all be in the launch and whether or not you are setup correctly.
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what kind of converter you have in that thing?
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Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
what kind of converter you have in that thing?
A 3800 NA circled. I will probably have to restall it lower. But I will try it out first.



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