jacs

I've heard of people making 350ish without headers and just minor bolt ons and this cam.

My goal for my car is to make around 400 rwhp or close to it with ported heads later on ls6 intake and ported TB

I want the car to sound close to stock, any other suggestions for a cam........

<small>[ February 25, 2003, 01:50 PM: Message edited by: jacs ]</small>

zTrackerz

There are a lot of good cams out there with basic stock qualities... Keep the duration moderate 218 - 224 and the Lsa 113 +.. check out some of the sponsors, TR, Lingenfelter, ect.....

jacs

alright would a cam with a duration around 218/218 with a lift about that of the ls6 cam give more than 10 more hp, the 2 things that draw me toward the ls6 cam is that is is almost stock sounding and it is cheap........ a 218 cam with a high idle would that sound almost like stock, and could i reach my goals with a cam like that?

Cal

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I'd say you could go even more than a 218/218 and still have a stock idle especially since you are willing to raise the idle speed. Maybe an MTI B1 221/221 at 114 lsa.

<small>[ February 25, 2003, 05:41 PM: Message edited by: Cal ]</small>

dug

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You could go with the compcams x-er lobes with 220-222 duration on 115 lsa with some advanced ground into it. The 115 lsa would really smooth out the idle.

Y2K2LS1

I got and LS6 cam and springs from Bille (ISPEEDWS6) a couple months ago. Havent put it in yet, but I should have some dyno #'s in the spring.

Everyone is going to tell you not to get it, and just get a 600 package that will give you more power. But if you are looking for something that will not lope, and can be found for 200 bucks, you cant beat it.

02 SOM SS

I got 2 tenths and 2 MPH, but did it from a 12.20 to a 11.97 on the same verter and ran the 11.97 on a Nitto.

I'm not gonna say I got 30HP, but I got something close imo, and I run stock manifolds w/ORY.

Go for it. It's pretty dang affordable.

jacs

alright, so i could have a cam custom made at about 220 or just get the b1 and up my idle and sound like stock if i have the money or if i'm running on a tight budget go for the ls6 cam

i'd rather go with a larger cam if i can afford it, but could i reach my goal of 400 rwhp with ls6 cam ported heads and all bolt ons

Thanks for the help guys, i'd like to have a cam made on a 115 lsa, in the 220 range, exactly what does xe-r lopes mean? And would this cam be giving up any power to the B1 cam?

SScam68

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> My goal for my car is to make around 400 rwhp or close to it with ported heads later on ls6 intake and ported TB</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I honestly think you could easily achieve that if not more with all "bolt ons" and cnc ported LS6 heads. I think 02 ZO6's put about 380-390 with bolt ons. I dunno about these claims of "stock idle" with these other cams. I can tell its got a cam from poeples sound clips and if thats the case then is not a "stock" idle. I have heard a ZO6 and it purrs.

On the "other" forum there is a package being sold with everything your gonna need for the swap. The cam from GM (of course <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> )and LS6 cnc ported heads from one of the sponors here along with all the other stuff to do the swap.

SScam68

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Also forgot the package includes the LS6 intake.

Ed Potter from LPE (sponsor----->>>)

Mentioned in a previous thread about using the Holley intake and when ported could provide gains over the LS6 intake.

IMHO with the right tunning you could easily achive your goals and then some.

dug

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The xe-r is comp cams most aggressive profile. The seat timing is lower while having more duration at .050" lift. The lower the seat timing the better the idle. The main drawback using such an aggressive cam is that its harder on valve springs.

jacs

what type of cams are the thunder racing cams?

Red02TA

My results were good for this cam in my mind. stock Idle, everything is fine. I can't tell the thing is in there until I hit the gas..

Here is a link with my results..

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...hreadid=268740

2002 Trans Am

Red- Linkie no workie

Cal

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by jacs:
<strong> alright, so i could have a cam custom made at about 220 or just get the b1 and up my idle and sound like stock if i have the money or if i'm running on a tight budget go for the ls6 cam

i'd rather go with a larger cam if i can afford it, but could i reach my goal of 400 rwhp with ls6 cam ported heads and all bolt ons

Thanks for the help guys, i'd like to have a cam made on a 115 lsa, in the 220 range, exactly what does xe-r lopes mean? And would this cam be giving up any power to the B1 cam? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think you should get the TR220. It will cost you around $700 for the complete package, but I think it would be worth waiting and saving up for. The Thunder lobes are similar to MTI lobes.

Hyper SS

I recently went with the 02 LS6 cam and springs!

I haven't dyno the cam yet but with all my bolt-ons:

2000 stock cam, lid, LT with cats & 3" Y, LS6 intake, ported TB, 85mm MAF, MAF-T, ASP pullies, cutout, 3.42 gears, 6 spd. it pulled 356 hp. on the dyno!

I can't remember the specs but I believe that only 2000 LS1's have a slightly bigger lift vs. the 01, 02 LS1 cams. The 02 LS6 cam specs:

.550 in/ex
218* ex.
204* in.
117.5* lobe

With a lid, stock programming and exhaust on an 01-02 LS1 you should expect the minimum of 20+ hp with just the cam swap!

With my current set up and some LS1-edit tuning I'm guessing on the LOW SIDE I should see mid 380ish hp! I only say this because there was guy with a 00 Z28 with the exact same bolt-ons as me except he had true duals vs. 3" single exhaust dyno 377 hp.

There are plenty of aftermarket cams producing better numbers for $700+ cam kit (one should expect it to) but considering the cost per gains vs. drivability of LS6 cam with springs swap alone you can't beat it for the price!

Since my cam swap with stock programming I've had NO problems with drivability, surging, stalling, or throwing codes. With the cutout closed, driving around town the car sounds and purrs like stock. With the cutout open and cats it does have a slightly agressive sound to it than before.

Unlike the stock cam the LS6 cam seems to make the most power above 4 grand and keeps on pulling pass the set stock rev limiter! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

For people who are looking for reliable, solid gains with good street manners I'd say it's the cam for you!

<small>[ March 21, 2003, 02:18 PM: Message edited by: Hyper SS ]</small>

Red02TA

Well, since Ls1.com is down, I gained 40.2 Rear wheel horsepower off the Ls6 cam install. I am not running headers and have stock y-pipe, etc. I am at 361 rwhp in an A4.

Not a bad gain for a $185 cam and $90 in springs. No need to replace the pushrods, especially in an A4.

John

DONAIMIAN

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The Thunder "Old Man Cam" is an option too <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Stock powerpand on steroids <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

99BlueZ28

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2002 Trans Am:
<strong> Red- Linkie no workie </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm sure the link is fine, its LS1.com that no workie right now. Server is down.

MyLS1Hauls

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by jacs:
<strong> what type of cams are the thunder racing cams? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The TR cams are very similar to the XE-R lobes, except that they have less lift. This is why I got a TR cam...aggressive lobe, but the lift is reasonable for a daily driver. My TR220 idles very well...you can definitely tell its not stock, but I never have stalling issues.