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03-04-2004, 08:43 PM
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Hey guys I am new... Hey i just want to say I am quite new to the american cars as I am a german car enthusiast (please dont flame)
as you can see by my sn its GRMNbdyAMERv8 = German body American V8....and by that i mean i have a plan to drop the Ls1 engine in the bmw E36 325is body....(please dont flame)
I love the styling, handling and jsut about everything about the BMW, but its power...thats why I am coming to you guys, because i know the ls1 engine is reliable and deffinately has lots of power and it is quite simple to get great bang for the buck...
so some of my questions are...what are considered f-bodies??? are those all but the vette cars that have the ls1 engine in them??? What would you consider the ups and downs of the LS1 engine and the t-56 tranny? How is the shifting on the t-56 hard/soft?? like if you redline and shift hard to the next gear untill which gear can you make the tires loose traction??
thanks guys, and please dont flame...
ps - i am from chicago IL, (midlothian exactlly) where are most the members located?
Luke
as you can see by my sn its GRMNbdyAMERv8 = German body American V8....and by that i mean i have a plan to drop the Ls1 engine in the bmw E36 325is body....(please dont flame)
I love the styling, handling and jsut about everything about the BMW, but its power...thats why I am coming to you guys, because i know the ls1 engine is reliable and deffinately has lots of power and it is quite simple to get great bang for the buck...
so some of my questions are...what are considered f-bodies??? are those all but the vette cars that have the ls1 engine in them??? What would you consider the ups and downs of the LS1 engine and the t-56 tranny? How is the shifting on the t-56 hard/soft?? like if you redline and shift hard to the next gear untill which gear can you make the tires loose traction??
thanks guys, and please dont flame...
ps - i am from chicago IL, (midlothian exactlly) where are most the members located?
Luke
03-04-2004, 08:48 PM
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If you can afford an LS1 swap with a T-56 tranny to boot, why not just go with the LS6 and an M6 tranny?
Welcome to the site.
Please update with pics after install! I'd love to see that car!
Welcome to the site.
Please update with pics after install! I'd love to see that car!
03-04-2004, 09:00 PM
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Hey guys, thanks for the quick replys and the warm welcomes....yeah believe it or not the ls1 v8 is taller, but smaller in width and also lighter then the I6 bmw because of the aluminum block (bmw uses iron). I know a person that is already working on this project, and believe it or not after the tranny install the shifter fits in the boot almost perfectly, but before i begin i want to make sure i pick the right engine, tranny and just learn a little about these cars as i dont know much aobu them.
what is the difference in power size weight of the ls1 and the ls6??
also i feel so stupid asking this, but as in my first post am I right about what i think f-bodies are considered?
what is the difference in power size weight of the ls1 and the ls6??
also i feel so stupid asking this, but as in my first post am I right about what i think f-bodies are considered?
03-04-2004, 09:08 PM
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Yes, you are right. F-bodies are the GM term for all Camaro's and Firebirds. This includes the SS, Z28, Trans Am, Firebird Formula, and Firehawk.
The difference btwn the ls1 and the ls6 is the block, heads, intake, cam and a bunch of other little things. The intake and cam are more aggressive in the ls6. Stock, an ls1 will put down about 300rwhp while the ls6 will dyno at around 370rwhp. Mid 13s on a stock ls1 compared to mid-high 12s on an ls6. Same displacement and I believe same weight.
And about the tranny mounting almost perfectly, that is weird. But I've also heard that the bolt pattern for the wheels are identical in m5's and f-bodies. Doesn't make any sense.
The difference btwn the ls1 and the ls6 is the block, heads, intake, cam and a bunch of other little things. The intake and cam are more aggressive in the ls6. Stock, an ls1 will put down about 300rwhp while the ls6 will dyno at around 370rwhp. Mid 13s on a stock ls1 compared to mid-high 12s on an ls6. Same displacement and I believe same weight.
And about the tranny mounting almost perfectly, that is weird. But I've also heard that the bolt pattern for the wheels are identical in m5's and f-bodies. Doesn't make any sense.
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No, F-bodys are all camaros from 1967 to 2002. Doesnt matter what kind of engine or package they are all f-bodys. good luck with the project
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ok so i got 3 different answers: what i thought it was, cameros only, cameros & firebirds.....now which one is true lol...because i was told that when buying the ls1 engine to make sure to buy the t-56 from an f-body because the vette one is different or something...
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BTW, anyone know of anyone selling an ls1 and a t-56?
also another question...what is the deffernce between the ls1 in a z28 and a ls1 in a vette as it says the vette has like 20 more bhp? what about between the z28 and an SS....is it just different exhaust intake cams or what?
also another question...what is the deffernce between the ls1 in a z28 and a ls1 in a vette as it says the vette has like 20 more bhp? what about between the z28 and an SS....is it just different exhaust intake cams or what?
03-04-2004, 09:26 PM
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ohh ok ok now i get it, i just got a little confused. I forgot the the z28 and ss are considered cameros just different models.
what is the deffernce between the ls1 in a z28 and a ls1 in a vette as it says the vette has like 20 more bhp? what about between the z28 and an SS....is it just different exhaust intake cams or what?
you guys have been much help...
what is the deffernce between the ls1 in a z28 and a ls1 in a vette as it says the vette has like 20 more bhp? what about between the z28 and an SS....is it just different exhaust intake cams or what?
you guys have been much help...
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Originally Posted by 5POINT7
WildThing was incorrect in saying that they are only Camaro's.
03-04-2004, 09:38 PM
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no biggie wild i see what you are saying...btw those are some IMPRESSIVE numbers your ss is putting out...any idea what its putting down to the wheels?
03-04-2004, 09:42 PM
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I never said it was only camaros i just said f-bodys are all camaros.
All Camaros and Firebirds are F-Bodies. The LS1 engine comes in many different cars, however, the F-Body distinctly refers to the nameplate, and the nameplate only- not what motors are used. For instance, the Corvette is known as a Y-Body.
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no biggie wild i see what you are saying...btw those are some IMPRESSIVE numbers your ss is putting out...any idea what its putting down to the wheels?
03-04-2004, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by enisguy
Guys on this site with only cams and bolt-ons are breaking 400 RWHP.
that is incredibally crazy...is this on like a 99 z28??? what kind of boltons to be exact??
man i am eager to get this project going!
03-05-2004, 06:22 AM
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The corvette transmission gears are mounted at the rear end instead of directly behind the engine (like a transaxle - but my understanding is it doesn't fit the true 'transaxle' definition for some weird reason).
Oh, and have you considered a test drive of the new GTO? It's supposed to be Pontiac's version of exactly what you are trying to build. Not sure how well it lives up, because I don't have much experience with the BMW's - but might be easier...
Dan
Oh, and have you considered a test drive of the new GTO? It's supposed to be Pontiac's version of exactly what you are trying to build. Not sure how well it lives up, because I don't have much experience with the BMW's - but might be easier...
Dan
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All the LS1s put down roughly the same power. The Z28s and SSs have the same exact motor, as do the TAs Formulas and WS6s. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only difference between F-bodies and C5 vettes is maybe the exhaust and placement of the air lid. They put out about the same amount of power. Also, try to get a 01 and up LS1 as those have the LS6 intake manifold and no EGR valve.