Street Racing & Kill Stories - Zr1 vs Viper head to head

Same day
Same place
Both pro drivers

Viper was faster to 160 mph. Zr1 faster to 180. Very close and great video quality

http://www.streetfire.net/video/corvette-zr1-vs-dodge-viper-srt10_2046460.htm

Good find...but nice video quality??? Its a from SPEED channel...

Not a street race...:lock:



Save these types of threads for Multimedia (damn I sound like a mod :lol:)

just saying thats one experience. I posted 2 different sets of times that prove otherwise

old....

lol, why do they always start their races on dirt and complain about traction?

Same day
Same place
Both pro drivers

Viper was faster to 160 mph. Zr1 faster to 180. Very close and great video quality

http://www.streetfire.net/video/corvette-zr1-vs-dodge-viper-srt10_2046460.htm

It was all driver at that point, the viper won the 0-60 but lost the 0-100-0. then lost in the practice mile run by almost 6 mph. It was ahead in the official run due to the tanner(zr1 driver) getting destroyed on the hole shot. But the difference in mph shows that it is the faster car and should beat the viper from a roll.

road & track tested them together
-ZR1 0-60 3.3 0-100 7.4 1/4 mile 11.4@125.5
-09 Viper SRT10 0-60 3.4 0-100 8.2 1/4 mile 11.7@122.8

Car and Driver also got
-ZR1 0-60 3.4 0-100 7.6 0-150 16.4 1/4 mile 11.5@128
-Viper SRT10 ACR 0-60 3.4 0-100 7.7 0-150 17.5 1/4 mile 11.8@126

lol, why do they always start their races on dirt and complain about traction?

No, no, no, Top Gear takes the cake. They will stage a drag race with two 600hp cars in a damn tsunami and wonder why the car won't hook up.

Time for Killemall to come in and defend Vipers from all you meanies.
Someone mention Mustangs and 5.0 so Ohioborne starts posting.

:lurk:

Car and driver

2008 Dodge ViperCoupe
1/4 mile: 11.8 @ 128 MPH
0-60 MPH: 3.6
0-150 MPH: 16.4

2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
1/4 mile: 11.7 @ 127 MPH
0-60 MPH: 3.6
0-150 MPH: 17.1

2009 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series 1/4 mile: 11.7 @ 126 MPH 0-60 MPH: 3.6 0-150 MPH: 17.9

Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 1/4 mile: 11.5 @ 127 MPH 0-60 MPH: 3.2 0-150 MPH: N/A



THIS IS SAME DAY SAME PLACE SAME DRIVERS. AGAIN HEAD TO HEAD THE VIPER IS FASTER. TO DATE NO ZR1 HAS MATCHED TNE VIPERS 0-150 TIME OF 16.4.

As street racers we can all apreciate just how ungodly focking fast that is.


AWD. Nothing but respect for you. But your numbers were not done head to head. I CAN FIND Z06 NUMBERS FROM 06 THAT SAY 11.6 AT 127 MPH OR VIPER NUMBERS FROM 03 THAT SAY 11.7 AT 124 MPH AND ON PAPER MAKE THEM LOOK COMPAREABLE TO THE NEW VIPER AND ZR1.

HEAD TO HEAD.. FOCK ITS CLOSE!

See you posted this. I think your getting confused.

Car and Driver also got -ZR1 0-60 3.4 0-100 7.6 0-150 16.4 1/4 mile 11.5@128 -Viper SRT10 ACR 0-60 3.4 0-100 7.7 0-150 17.5 1/4 mile 11.8@126.

Heres te actual article

Heres the actual car and driver test

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/corvette-zr1-vs-sl65-amg-black-series-murcielago-lp640-viper-srt10-comparison-tests

here you go
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/2010-chevrolet-corvette-zr1-vs-2010-porsche-911-turbodouble-double-animal-style.pdf

Lol at comparing 18 different sets of results.

i <3 SL65 AMG :drool:

You said to date no ZR1 has matched the 16.4 0-150 the viper did so I just posted a link by the same magazine that proved it has. gay that there are no vids of them racing each other from a roll tho

So we are both right except the regular viper is MUCH faster than the acr.

Acr is a great track car but very straightline speed limited.

Regular viper=202 mph
Acr viper=178 mph

You said to date no ZR1 has matched the 16.4 0-150 the viper did so I just posted a link by the same magazine that proved it has. gay that there are no vids of them racing each other from a roll tho


Yep. Its messed up. Lets just come to a thuths. 16.4 for both of them to 150 is over a second faster than the z06.

You willing to call it a tie?

(hope I opened some eyes on the new vipers as well... Lots of people think its no faster than the z06)

i think its a drivers race for the zr1 and viper. i have no doubt one would beat me so no worries there lol

Who cares?

You dont own either

ok here we go again...i really think killemall loves the attention he gets...

ROAD & TRACK MARCH 2009 ISSUE

murcielago lp640-4...0-60 3.3 / 0-100 7.5 /1/4 11.4@127.1 / weight 4055lbs

ZR1...0-60 3.3 / 0-100 7.4 / 1/4 11.4 @125.5 / weight 3325 lbs

VIPER...0-60 3.4 / 0100 8.2 / 1/4 11.7@122.8 weight 3445 lbs

SL65 AMG 0-60 3.7 / 0-100 8.1 / 1/4 11.82121.6 weight 4555 lbs


MOTOR TREND OCTOBER 2005 Z06...0-60 3.5 / 1/4 11.5@127.1

MOTOR TREND OCTOBER 2008 ZR1 0-60 3.3 / 1/4 11.3 @131.00...

again, it all depends on what nit-wit is testing them that day...stock vs stock , evan smith driving them both on good prepped track, i'll bet all three of my cars on that ZR1 winning...nothing you're gonna say or show me is going to change my mind.

Quarter mile is one thing. Very driver dependant.

0-150 is also driver dependant but once your in third at 90ish its the vehicles power and a easy shift to fourth to 150 mph.

16. 4 for both cars is amazing.

However even you must admit that after 3 or 4 highway battles the zr1 supercharger would heat vsoak and lose more power than the naturally asperated viper.

Keep in mind the viper did that 16.4 all american engine. How sick is that? Props to the zr1 but Id prefer a z06 any day of the week

ok here we go again...i really think killemall loves the attention he gets...

ROAD & TRACK MARCH 2009 ISSUE

murcielago lp640-4...0-60 3.3 / 0-100 7.5 /1/4 11.4@127.1 / weight 4055lbs

ZR1...0-60 3.3 / 0-100 7.4 / 1/4 11.4 @125.5 / weight 3325 lbs

VIPER...0-60 3.4 / 0100 8.2 / 1/4 11.7@122.8 weight 3445 lbs

SL65 AMG 0-60 3.7 / 0-100 8.1 / 1/4 11.82121.6 weight 4555 lbs


MOTOR TREND OCTOBER 2005 Z06...0-60 3.5 / 1/4 11.5@127.1


(motortrend 2003 510 hp viper... 0-60 in 3.8 /1/4 11.7@123.7 mph) just sayin

MOTOR TREND OCTOBER 2008 ZR1 0-60 3.3 / 1/4 11.3 @131.00...

again, it all depends on what nit-wit is testing them that day...stock vs stock , evan smith driving them both on good prepped track, i'll bet all three of my cars on that ZR1 winning...nothing you're gonna say or show me is going to change my mind.





Da da dummmmmmmmmmmm

Who cares?

You dont own either

actually he does LOL

Does OP still think a viper outperforms a ZR1?

Just watching Killemalls youtube videos I am convinced he's semi retarded.

In no way do I mean to be offensive.

Also chargers are slow.

Does OP still think a viper outperforms a ZR1?

Just watching Killemalls youtube videos I am convinced he's semi retarded.

In no way do I mean to be offensive.

Also chargers are slow.

I'm glad that you used a disclaimer, somehow it makes your post seem less cutting (except for the Charger comment). :hail:

However even you must admit that after 3 or 4 highway battles the zr1 supercharger would heat vsoak and lose more power than the naturally asperated viper.


With the new TVS blowers, heatsoak is virtually a thing of the past.

actually he does LOL

LT was talking about the 600hp Vipers, which Crashemall does not own.










Seriously, :lock: this bullshit and give Crashemall a couple day ban for yet another non-street racing story/vid.

Killemall has to be the biggest magazine bench racing on here. This shit is ridiculous.

When your talking about cars as rae as a 08 viper or zr1 sadly magazine racing is all we will likely see.

5k gen4 vipers and 8k zr1s if memory serves. Chance of these two meeting on a road somewere with owners who actually wanna race are as likely as one of us running into a bugatti.

Been 4 years since they came out and still not one street racing vid on youtube to see what will really happen.

Never seen a gen4 viper or zr1 cruizin the streets here in Hawaii

The Gen IV's are insane.

And if I was a Gen IV owner and lost to a ZR1 I wouldn't feel bad at all. Vise-versa.

And if I was a Gen IV owner and lost to a ZR1 I wouldn't feel bad at all. Vise-versa.



Agreed. Both so different but both animals in their own way. I really thought before viewing this vid the Zr1 would have the advantage after 100MPH. I guess I was wrong.

And if I was a Gen IV owner and lost to a ZR1 I wouldn't feel bad at all. Vise-versa.

Viper ACR is faster around a track than a ZR1, only place that matters.

Yep. The zr1and gen4 is the closest american battle in many years.

The gen4 viper has kinda been under the radar since 08. Its an extremely rare car that looks nearly identical to the 03-06 vipers people have been seeing for 9 years. Dodge did a horrible job advertiseing this car.

You noticed the acr viper. With its two tone paint and first place track times. But it seemed to me that the non acr vipers became somewhat of a forgotten bastard.

The non acr vipers are the ones touching 130 mph plus stock and that got tens stock. They are theo! nes that run 202 mph and were a second faster on short tracks head to head against the z06 in 2008.

Basically theywere forgotten about. A 550 rwhp 34$$ pound car just forgotten about when the acr went 7.22 at the ring a few years ago (now 7.12)


On the other hand the supervette aka blue devil aka zr1 was exactly the opposit. This car was extremely well hyped by chevy. Before its first test review of a actual production model it was already viewed as americas fastest sports car.

But what really happenned? It was tested and the actual production model was in the 124-128 mph range. The 0-150 was in the mid 16-low 17 range.

Truth be told the supervette never tested to be any faster than the 08 non acr viper. They were as equal as could be from et to mph to 150 mph to brakeing ect. Considering the gen4 viper is rarer and at 92k vs 115k significantly cheaper, you would think this would be praised as americas super car.

But with the amazeing advertiseing of the zr1 and non existent advertiseing of the non acr the world views the zr1 and acr viper as the be all end all and the non acr viper as being equal to the z06.

Non acr viper is probally americas best secret. You can go out today and buy a used 08 viper for 60k that does everything the zr1 does in a more exclusive wrapper. But no one even knows what it runs at the Ring ect thanks to Dodge.

now i know why i cancelled most of my car mag subscriptions.

Good kill! :P . I like both of these cars and am surprised with the outcome a little. I figured the Zr1 would walk away but it was much closer than I thought.

look at the lead the viper had (due to tanner being a douche on the launch) and the ZR1 still ran it down. The ZR1 is faster, maybe not by a whole lot but it is. That being said both cars are very different in what they do and both are badass and I would be extremely pleased to ever own either of those cars. ZR1 makes more power and weighs less, the outcome is simple.

Zr1 didn't catch the Viper till 5th gear. For most people they are equal cars from a dig or a roll

Zr1 didn't catch the Viper till 5th gear. For most people they are equal cars from a dig or a rollWhich proves with equal launch the zr1 would have been ahead by that much more. But agreed, a mistake one way or the other will cause a win or loss for the other person. Id take either lol

killemall, you know what you can do with that ...da da dummmmm..right ????qanytime this weasel cannot convince others about his oh so powerful viper he chimes in with a very stupid comment back at the person trying to make a point....what a baby....heatsoak ??

man please, when was the last time you ever heard anyone speak about that concerning a ZR1 ???

so all your concerned about is the 0-150mph ???...ok, try this on for size...the koenigsegg agera R does 0-200-0 in 17 seconds...that approx. 14 to 200mph...

and as we all know, still doesn't compare to the almighty viper right ???....why is it i always watch races and most of the time see a viper losing ???? hmmmmm.....and when was the last time chevrolet stopped producing the corvette for any length of time ????....where is the ''king'' now ????...oh that's right , there re-modeling it....the ZR1 one is also 2 seconds quicker around the 'ring then your vaunted ACR is....and there i go again talking about ''video's and magazine times'' something you never do ....stock vs. stock a viper cannot beat a ZR1 at anything....have evan smith drive both....every test shows the ZR1 ahead by a substantial margin...i really don't believe you even care the viper's like you say you do, i think you do this crap for your own ego...

hugger 1975...you said it...i only buy what i need...hey killemall why don't you start your own magazine title it : killemall's fantasy.

hey killemall why don't you start your own magazine title it : killemall's fantasy.Have you lost it man!?! Never give him ideas! :jest:

2SSAREME...lololol...just semi-retarded????....hell i'd go the whole way there and i am being offensive....

ZReie...sorry brother..lololol...we'll just have someone spank him him and put him to bed with his viper model toy.....killemall you must be on something...stop crossdressing your hands...

Learn to multi-quote!

2SSAREME...lololol...just semi-retarded????....hell i'd go the whole way there and i am being offensive....

Pot, meet Kettle.

The acr went 7.12 at the ring. 7 seconds faster than the zr1s 7.19. Look it up.

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You see, in the 7 seconds it would take you to read each of those out loud the viper was already parked and started smokeing a victory cigar while the zr1 then crosses the finish line.

You question me on my viper loyalty? My wife and I agreed 6 months ago I could sell my viper and get a used Gallardo. Thing is my heart wasnt in it for a slow early year Gallardo that my viper could have beat when stock.

Trust me not many who love vipers and fgt's more than me


Btw. The last year 2010 viper they revised the fifth and sixth gear so that the 10 vipers hit 200 mph 17 seconds faster than the 09 vipers.

Put a 2010 viper ina 0-200 mph race against a 2012 zr1 and dont be surprised if the zr1 never catches up

The acr went 7.12 at the ring. 7 seconds faster than the zr1s 7.19. Look it up.

Seven seconds
Seven seconds
Seven seconds
Seven seconds
Seven seconds
Seven seconds
Seven seconds

You see, in the 7 seconds it would take you to read each of those out loud the viper was already parked and started smokeing a victory cigar while the zr1 then crosses the finish line.

You question me on my viper loyalty? My wife and I agreed 6 months ago I could sell my viper and get a used Gallardo. Thing is my heart wasnt in it for a slow early year Gallardo that my viper could have beat when stock.

Trust me not many who love vipers and fgt's more than me


Btw. The last year 2010 viper they revised the fifth and sixth gear so that the 10 vipers hit 200 mph 17 seconds faster than the 09 vipers.

Put a 2010 viper ina 0-200 mph race against a 2012 zr1 and dont be surprised if the zr1 never catches up

Give it fucking up! We're not all going to bow to the Viper and lick it's butthole like you do. Get the fuck over it. Yeah, we find them cool and badass, but we don't need to hear about it every 2 fucking seconds. Seriously, take your worship over to a Viper forum so you can all circle jerk to your underperforming 8.4L V10 that only makes 600hp. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

I really wish they would just ban you for magazine racing, it's like a fucking disease.

What the hell would this forum be without the Killmeister?

Love or hate me I bring entertainment and contraversy to this community. And you know dis, mannnnnnn

Sadly, its true :jest:

Yall are gonna really hate him when the NEW V10/Viper hits the streets...All i can say this Viper vs ZR1 will no longer be a debate.

I plan on owning the gen5 viper! Can you say 10.5 at 136 mph stock?

8. 7 liter and 700 hp

Game over. Even the lambo Aventador will fall

I plan on owning the gen5 viper! Can you say 10.5 at 136 mph stock?

8. 7 liter and 700 hp

Game over. Even the lambo Aventador will fall

Atleast 700HP is what im hearing.

I plan on owning the gen5 viper! Can you say 10.5 at 136 mph stock?

8. 7 liter and 700 hp

Game over. Even the lambo Aventador will fall

but u will have to start 50 rolls in 3rd cause of the raw wheel torque.....

:D

Just
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Obstacles
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Meaning you cant have or do what some others have aquired or done so you critisize what they have or what they have done in order to make the just getting by life you have feel adequate. Fox and the grape... Fox and the grape.

Gothemi... What kina power you make camonly without spray. Im putting in somthing nasy and just wondering how your setup did

Game over. Even the lambo Aventador will fall

:lol: No, definitely not at a dig race. Aventador from a dig vs Viper = buses...vs you...trains. :jest:

With the new TVS blowers, heatsoak is virtually a thing of the past.



LT was talking about the 600hp Vipers, which Crashemall does not own.










Seriously, :lock: this bullshit and give Crashemall a couple day ban for yet another non-street racing story/vid.

Almost fell out of my chair

Who cares?

You dont own either
For once, the Honda guy makes sense ;)

I actually find Killemall quite entertaining. With all due respect, I'd just want to choke him out if I met him in person due to all of his grammar and spelling errors I sift through on a daily basis

Gothemi... What kina power you make camonly without spray. Im putting in somthing nasy and just wondering how your setup did

425 on a very low reading dyno. My guess on a typical DynoJet it would put down in the 450-470 range. This is true cam only too. No ported tb,intake,underdrive pulley. Just a baby cam,cai,and headers.

As a reference. Stock L99 camaros typically put down 290-310 on the dyno use. Stock 6.1's put down about 340.

so killemall you already know the outcome of the new viper vs. an aventador ???? fantastic...the lambo runs 10.51@135.63...love to see your vaunted viper do that from a dig.
and the ZR1 is 2 seconds quicker around the 'ring and i'm talking about the 2012 ZR1...new viper?? ok well there's a new C7 coming out 2014 you're point being ???

Might be old but I never saw it thx....

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Two months ago a stock 2010 acr went to the ring. It did 7.12, that 7 seconds faster thanthe 2012 zr1s 7.19.

The zr1 isnt even in the same breath as the acr.

Look it up and post up when you have some knowledge. Till then the zr1 is a great car. I wouldnt want one but theres no denying it is defiently second best performance wise in the united states and possibly the world for performance.

Viper-7. 12
Lexus lfa ring adittion-7. 15
Zr1-7. 19
Z06 -7. 22
Gtr-7. 24

Allthose fancy lambos ferraris and porches are 7.30-7. 50

This is truly a great time to be an american car enthusiast

so killemall you already know the outcome of the new viper vs. an aventador ???? fantastic...the lambo runs 10.51@135.63...love to see your vaunted viper do that from a dig.
and the ZR1 is 2 seconds quicker around the 'ring and i'm talking about the 2012 ZR1...new viper?? ok well there's a new C7 coming out 2014 you're point being ???


Hopeing to do do that in my current viper naturally asperated. Some parts and the mail.

killemall, if i can find it , i'll post it. i know what i read. i believe i read it and watched the video on DPCCARS.COM...see if i can find it. also wasn't talking about your viper, i was talking about the new one coming out when ????....i am not gonna try and change your mind as that was not my intent. i really hope the new viper does indeed run 10's...would be interesting, as i've heard that the new C7 ZR1 will be packing 725. yes it is a great time for these muscle car wars....

as far as exotic's, well i love all cars. but have a very special place in my heart for lamborghini's. kind of how you love viper's..

couple stock vipers already running 10s at 128-131 mph. Just goggle Viper 7.12 Ring and all types of stuff will pop up.

I loved the Lambo till my neibor got one. Now I see em all the time so loses its luster. That and I hate the color. But if my neibor got a bugatti and I saw it everyday it would bore me eventually as well.

Still in love with Ferrari challange stardales though.

Why does me having one affect how you feel about a car? If I buy a Ferrari, your going to hate them as well? Moron. Not to mention I moved the Lamborghini to the office and you haven't seen it since summer. The next car I buy will be a new viper. Just so you shaddup about it and start hating it.

Just kidding.

Hey.. When you put

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You realize your missing the a in jealousy right?

How did the 2012 Viper do vs the ZR1.... Oh wait.......

the sound the LP640-4 makes is un-real to me...nothing has ever sounded so good....and seeing RSKY's gallardo every day would kill me further....yes i believe some viper's have gone 10's...just like the ZO6 & ZR1 have gone 10's as well...as far as ferrari goes, love the 458 and the GTO 599...
after seeing the new aventador and ZR1 , i asked my wife if she would be upset if she came home one day and seen me in bed with both of those cars.

LIke it or not Kill, the Z06 is Viper territory. The ZR1 will always be more car than the Viper imo. The Viper may have the ball right now (when compared to the Z06), but not for long. As far as the ZR1, it's just better than a Viper... so is a Gallardo :engarde:

As far as the ZR1, it's just better than a Viper... so is a Gallardo :engarde:
Anyone denying that a new Gallardo is a superior machine to any American-built car is denying the facts

you're so right MARC97TAWS6...love the 570-4 superleggera...but there not better then a viper !!! just ask killemall...

Don't get me wrong, the Viper is a formidable vehicle that even a Gallardo couldn't duplicate the feeling of. But apples to apples and oranges to oranges is the name of game in this situation, and these are two purpose built supercars that were built for different purposes/applications imo. Yes, Killemall is a brand loyalist- at least he stands for something :confused: lol.

yeah he is a brand loyalist...nothing wrong with that, just don't go around force feeding what he believe's in to everyone else. i love viper's don't get me wrong, but it cannot beat a ZR1 in the quarter mile. for every mag. or video i have seen never once did i see a SRT10 viper beating a ZR1 ...stock vs stock. just one guy spins a ZR1 while drag racing a viper and the viper wins doesn't prove crap.

Lol agreed