ksk1980

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Dropped block off this evening at machine shop n after talking with the guy ive decided th just freshen up the stock bottom end instead of boring and use the $ elsewhere.
Im going to be running prc's stg1 243's, ls6 intake, long tubes.
Car is m6 w/4 4.10's out back. I alreadyhave a ms3 from my last build that went wrong lol im really wanting a diff cam just cant really decide.
Looking for an awsome street cam thats gonna be fun to play with on the road but still put down some decent #'s. I just really dont like the ms3 as a street car cam. Dont get me wrong its a beast but dead as 4 oclock until almost 3000 rpms.its great if u r running wide open all the time just missed that bottomend TQ
Im gonna get pat g. or pred to spec me out a cam just kinda wanna know what ppl think of diff. durations


Post up what ya got n how ya like it.

ksk1980

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Forgot its a 2001 LQ4

wildcamaro

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I'm rockin a 224/230 comp cams xer273 in an ls1 so I think that can you run that with driving miss daisy drivability...or go a lil hotter but stay below that ms3

ksk1980

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Yeah really dont want a cam i have to string out or car is dead if i dont. My car is by no means a daily driiver so dont wanna go to small . I want smthong thats gnna lay ya back in theseat pretty good n bust a few fords between stoplghts but still perform good if i do ever take it to the track.

wildcamaro

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Ha nice on burn them ford 5.0 punks...that cam I said gives up no tq down low and pulls up til 6800...I don't have dyno numbers, but that cam and home ported 243s shaved 9 tenths off my quarter on a mail order tune

ksk1980

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Damn almost a second off ur time. Cant beat that. Jyst want that plant ur *** in the seat feel i never got with the ms3 which it was a cam nly car when i ran it with stock 241's

1nasty86

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Im running a eps 230/238 .600/.604 112+2 love it for a daily driver cam, no surging at low rpm and it makes nice power (ls2, tea ported/milled 317's, 230/238 and a fast 102 made 463/434). A set of 2.5 ls6 heads for the extra 400 bucks from tsp would be worth buying, but if ur tight for money just let it hang on the stage 1's.

ksk1980

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How much hp/ tq do the stg1's usually produce over a stock set?

1nasty86

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Matt@tsp in another post said the stage 1 would do 40hp/30ft lbs over a stock 241 head

black00ssFL

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Your problem isn't the cam, it's your compression. Since it's at the machine shop, see if you can get a set of ls2/lq9 rods/pistons to throw in there. Or you can do what I did and mill those heads and flycut the lq4 pistons. even with those stg 1's you're barely at stock ls1 compression ratio. I milled a set of 799's .030 and still am only pushing 10.8:1 compression. My cam is an Xer lobe, but very similar to the MS3. Was running with a t56 and 4.11's in a 9", no complaints of no low end power here.

ksk1980

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Whats the comp ration gonna be with the dished pistons n stg 1 heads? Id tather change cams than mill heads n flycut the pistons.

speedtigger

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I think this is a great cam for your average 6 liter. If I were to do it over, I would have went with a low 230s duration cam.

black00ssFL

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about that of a stock ls1. Around 10:1. Flycutting is really not that hard. I spent about $50, including the $25 I spent on a set of junk ls1 heads. It's even easier for you since the engine will be on a stand and out of the car. Here's how mine turned out using oversized valves and some adhesive sandpaper.

ksk1980

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I was thinking somewhere in the low 230's. By dropping the duration n going with a lower lift cam if i mill my 317's n throw on my spring kit wouldnt i be in the same ball park #'s wise for pretty much only the cost of a cam? Way cheaper route. I could care less about these heads so milling them is fine by me just didnt want to order a $1500 set of heads n hack'm off limiting cams in the future

02_Orange_D1SC

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ive got a lq4 with a 226/230 600/600 111lsa and a set of AI 243 heads milled to 60cc which is .030 mill im right a 10.8.1 with the stock .051 mls gaskets

ksk1980

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Hows the cam pull down low and pull strong thru the rpm's? Has ot been dynoed if so #'s?

02_Orange_D1SC

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the truck still needs some work i just got done doin the 6.0 swap but just from goin on a quick drive around the block its got a tone more lowend then my 4.8 ever did lol.

ksk1980

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Well decided to go with the original plan of boring .040 and using a flat top piston. Still going the 243 route on the heads but keeping them stock for rite now inless something changes here soon. Gonna run the ms3 so hopefully with the combo of flat tops n 243 heads the ms3 wont be as dead down low compared to the stock ls1. If so anyone need a ms3 1000 miles on it? Lol.
Or still go smaller cam and mill heads with the above mentioned bottom end?
Tryin to stay budget concious but dont want any regrets once motor is in either.
If ur running a similar setup plz post up some numbers

black00ssFL

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Get ya some pistons with valve reliefs. Even if you don't need them with this h/c combo, who knows what the future holds. Would you rather be limited with your choice 2-4 years down the road, or would you like to use whatever cam and milled heads if you decided to change it up?