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Old 02-07-2012, 08:07 PM
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1984 BMW 318i - swapped in a 1995 s50 motor (M3) with larger MAF, headers, throttle body, and a tune. Weighs about 2300lbs. 5 speed. 4:10 rear. I think the previous owner dyno'd it around 280hp.
1999 WS6 - stock motor. Slp lid and cat back exhaust. LS7 clutch. Bunch of suspension stuff. weighs about 3600lbs Mustang dyno'd 303hp ?

weather: 35 degrees clear

3 runs. Only one semi-good run: 40 roll to 100ish
ws6 missed 3rd one run, BMW missed 5th another.

BMW starts in 3rd, ws6 in 2nd. WS6 pulls ahead half a car until BMW shifts to 4th. Pretty much remain even to 90 or so. BMW wins with rear tire at ws6 nose.

ws6 tried starting in first but rpms were too high.
Didn't do any digs yet, we just wanted to see what it would do real quick.


I put the video in cause I know you all like them but it is not very good. I need a new camera person. This is the only video where you could see the bmw but is not the best race.
http://youtu.be/U4dwnK_Ng4w
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ipressive lil beamer ..mod the ta morer
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def impressive ... what the hell is a S50 and S52 swap or w/e. i def don't know a damn thing about those cars lol.
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Why do people mod such gay looking cars?
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Originally Posted by 2SSARME
Why do people mod such gay looking cars?
Coming from the guy who drives a Transformer....

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Originally Posted by 1992TsiAWD
Coming from the guy who drives a Transformer....

Coming from the guy who drives a Plymouth Laser I don't think your opinion carries alot of weight.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
Coming from the guy who drives a Plymouth Laser I don't think your opinion carries alot of weight.
I didn't buy my Talon for its looks. I doubt the same can be said for someone who buys a two ton Bumblebee.

Coming from the guy who drives a GTO, I don't think your opinion carries a lot of weight.

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Originally Posted by sujomatt
def impressive ... what the hell is a S50 and S52 swap or w/e. i def don't know a damn thing about those cars lol.
yea i dont know that much either. basically he took his daily driver (which he paid $500 for) and swapped out the stock straight 6 that leaked more oil than a detriot diesel. He put in a motor (s50 block) from a 1995 BMW M3. from wiki: 3.0 L 24-valve DOHC inline-six engine with 240 bhp and 225 lb·ft (S50B30US).
The s52 block was the updated version (kinda like the ls1 and ls6 for comparison).

The new motor weighs less and his car weighs right around 2300lbs. thats about 1000lbs less than the 95 m3. He did it because he ran across a good deal for a much better engine to replace the one that was going to come apart any day.

and to 2ssarme: to each his own. most people probably ask why you created that thing in your sig. hopefully your answer is because its what you like and wanted to do.

also his intention was to make his car more reliable while also getting more power in his daily driver. His "modded" car is a 1986 IROC that has a bunch of engine and suspension work done to it.
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That BMW weighs more than 2300 unless it's totally gutted.....and op you need to go work on your car. That was a sad showing. S50's in a e36 ran low 14's. That guy may make it to a low 13 but that's about it. Hell I think s50's was only rated @ 280....and they have mutiple tb's.
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I've had e36 M3 before with s50 engine in it, its quick for what it is, and it handles REALLY well. Took it to the track once and ran 14.5 @ 101ish. Not really a good race for an fbody though in the stock form
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Originally Posted by 99_ws6

and to 2ssarme: to each his own. most people probably ask why you created that thing in your sig. hopefully your answer is because its what you like and wanted to do.
He drives a 5th gen Camaro.
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I believe the guy that op raced has e30 not e36 which weigh less.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
That BMW weighs more than 2300 unless it's totally gutted.....and op you need to go work on your car. That was a sad showing. S50's in a e36 ran low 14's. That guy may make it to a low 13 but that's about it. Hell I think s50's was only rated @ 280....and they have multiple tb's.
my mistake just asked him and well the door panel says stock its curb weight 2200 lbs so pretty sure 2300 isnt making it gutted (and that was my estimate on its weight now). also his stock motor was a 90hp I4. and it has one throttle body, single vanos. s50b30 from 1995 m3. the euro version had multiple tb's.

and yea my car does need work, apparently its the slowest trans am ever.
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I have a e30 M3 I've been working on for a guy. It has a s54 engine in it, gutted race car that I have been trying to get weight out of and I will be lucky if it comes in under 2200lb.
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What year and model e30 is it? I realize it's gutted but the newer the heavier it became. Also an 84 318i base model is going to weigh less than any of the 325 models (325i/e/es/is/ix). And the s54 I a much newer, more powerful motor with individual throttle bodies. That will be a fast car if it can get traction. Is he road racing it?
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op i think you need to change your plugs lol
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Originally Posted by 99_ws6
What year and model e30 is it? I realize it's gutted but the newer the heavier it became. Also an 84 318i base model is going to weigh less than any of the 325 models (325i/e/es/is/ix). And the s54 I a much newer, more powerful motor with individual throttle bodies. That will be a fast car if it can get traction. Is he road racing it?
Not sure what year. It's a M3 e30. It's a rr car. s54's was good for about 460 hp @ the crank in out old PTG M3's.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Not sure what year. It's a M3 e30. It's a rr car. s54's was good for about 460 hp @ the crank in out old PTG M3's.
so he bought a ptg motor and isnt useing a regular s54 with 333hp? Those motors were like 25k to build, must be a hardcore racer....
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Well kinda, he's not really hardcore but he has enough money to have nice stuff. I worked ar ptg for 15yrs. Another friend worked there for 6-8yrs building engines and when he quit he built a shop and now builds race engines. He will duplicate one of the 3.4 I 6's for this car.....hopefully with some improvements.
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Since when are E30's ugly?

I think they look damn good for an 80's car.
I'd roadcourse one with an LS.


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