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jbridwelltransam
02-18-2012, 08:37 PM
Well guys my buddy sold his 350z and came home with an 07 STI, so naturally I wanted to see what it was made of. Finally got a chance today, we went to this dead end street near my house, honestly close to a mile long with nothing around. We decided on a 20 roll, the car was new to him and he didn't want to start launching it just yet and i'm not trying to fry my tires so I was fine with it.

First Race: I let him honk it out. I jumped as soon as I heard it and stayed about a car ahead and started to pull.

Second Race: Told him how to brake boost and said I would honk it off this time. Much better race, he was next to my door through the rest of 1st and part of second. It was awesome hearing the turbo spool and BOV chirping. By 3rd I was a car to a car and a half ahead.

His mods: Aftermarket intake and BOV, NVIDIA turboback exhaust

My Mods: Lid, Borla Catback, Free mods


jthunderz28
02-18-2012, 09:08 PM
Do it from a dig once he gets use to launching it and then report back.

hendrixx
02-18-2012, 09:19 PM
is yours A4? if not, you need a driver mod.


jbridwelltransam
02-18-2012, 09:28 PM
is yours A4? if not, you need a driver mod.

Explain lol

85mustang351
02-18-2012, 09:49 PM
Good runs man. bolt on Sti should be a good roll race for a stockish ls1. Dont really understand the a4 comment.

hendrixx
02-18-2012, 09:49 PM
STIs are slow as fuck... good enough explaination? lol

hendrixx
02-18-2012, 09:50 PM
and NVIDIA? they make exhausts?



i could have sworn they made computer software lolol

85mustang351
02-18-2012, 09:56 PM
STIs are slow as fuck... good enough explaination? lol

Mid low 13 second car stock. Sounds an aweful lot like ls1 numbers to me. Just sayin.

willizm
02-18-2012, 10:22 PM
and NVIDIA? they make exhausts?



i could have sworn they made computer software lolol

graphics cards, Nvidia makes graphics cards.:eyes:

Mid low 13 second car stock. Sounds an aweful lot like ls1 numbers to me. Just sayin.

this

hendrixx
02-18-2012, 10:23 PM
im meaning from a roll, lots of torque from low speeds, but nothing up high.. unfortunately im the only fag around with an ls1 camaro, so 4 of my buddies all have the exact same car, 05 cobb stage 2 sti, 04 cobb stage 2 sti + up pipe, 07 cobb stage 2 sti, and another black sti with i forgot what mods...

now given i make much, MUCH more power than them, i give them the jump from dig races pull 5-6 cars (if i can remember correctly) by 110mph, from a 30-40 roll, they have absolutely no chance, ill have bus lengths on them by 120 mph lol.

all im saying is that, under 60mph, they feel, and go like rocket ships, as soon as they hit that magic number its like it all disappears?

iunno id just think OP should have more than a car on a basically stock sti. cause i know stage 2 sti's are full exhaust with DP and a tune, and they run high 12s

hendrixx
02-18-2012, 10:25 PM
graphics cards, Nvidia makes graphics cards.:eyes:

oh sorry i guess i could have said HARDware rather than software, does it really matter? :eyes:

jbridwelltransam
02-18-2012, 10:25 PM
When you say stages I think he said his was stage 2? Idk I honestly didn't think i would beat him, test times put him right around stock ls1 quarter times and it is a lighter car with AWD. Either way I'm glad I have him around, gives me a good benchmark once I start doing some real modding.

85mustang351
02-18-2012, 10:31 PM
When you say stages I think he said his was stage 2? Idk I honestly didn't think i would beat him, test times put him right around stock ls1 quarter times and it is a lighter car with AWD. Either way I'm glad I have him around, gives me a good benchmark once I start doing some real modding.

AWD = bad for roll racing

jbridwelltransam
02-18-2012, 10:36 PM
AWD = bad for roll racing

Really? Oh well lol I'm sure he would have me from a dig either way lol.

LT1Mike
02-19-2012, 01:32 AM
i beat a STI in town by 1.5 cars everytime, worse from a roll.. I am a m6 tho.. I have about stockish ls1 #s i guess.. but id like to know how u do on a dig with this guy

96z28_lt1
02-19-2012, 02:12 AM
hey man good kill, regardless what they say sti's are quick well atlest the only one i've had an encounter in was, but then again i just have a slow lt1....

dsmfan95
02-19-2012, 07:29 AM
AWD = bad for roll racing

How come?

flattusmaximus78
02-19-2012, 09:15 AM
AWD = bad for roll racing

Please fill everyone in. Please don't say drivetrain loss, because everyone else does, and that makes no sense.

hugger1975
02-19-2012, 09:47 AM
Drivetrain loss is besides the point. They simply don't put down the HP in stockish form.

So from a roll, u are racing a sub 280hp equal weight car turnin all 4 wheels.



I have a vid of what my slobalt did to one.
In stock form, they are dig cars. High rolls, they just don't make the HP per LB.

Not minimining the post, good kill. But tell your buddy to gets to modding if he wants to run with you and when he gets some launches under his belt, be ready for him to jump out a few cars with u playing catch up.

ZFreie
02-19-2012, 10:31 AM
im meaning from a roll, lots of torque from low speeds, but nothing up high.. unfortunately im the only fag around with an ls1 camaro, so 4 of my buddies all have the exact same car, 05 cobb stage 2 sti, 04 cobb stage 2 sti + up pipe, 07 cobb stage 2 sti, and another black sti with i forgot what mods...

iunno id just think OP should have more than a car on a basically stock sti. cause i know stage 2 sti's are full exhaust with DP and a tune, and they run high 12sThis is interesting, I have a friend with a stage 2 wrx and I hang right with him at all times, does this mean my lt1 might turn a low 13 sec with traction in its current state!?!?! I hope so lol

85mustang351
02-19-2012, 10:52 AM
Please fill everyone in. Please don't say drivetrain loss, because everyone else does, and that makes no sense.

It has a lot to do with the cow jumping over the moon theory of relative momentum vs force. While the cow has the force to jump over the moon the momentum is slowed by atmospheric pressure and relative humidity. If it had more hoofpower then it could be achieved but the hoofpower to weight ratio of the average cow is simply too low. Hope that helps.:usa:

willizm
02-19-2012, 11:23 AM
oh sorry i guess i could have said HARDware rather than software, does it really matter? :eyes:

If you are going to try and tell a joke you might want to get the punchline right. :punch:

dsmfan95
02-19-2012, 12:55 PM
It has a lot to do with the cow jumping over the moon theory of relative momentum vs force. While the cow has the force to jump over the moon the momentum is slowed by atmospheric pressure and relative humidity. If it had more hoofpower then it could be achieved but the hoofpower to weight ratio of the average cow is simply too low. Hope that helps.:usa:

Nice cop-out.

karpetcm
02-19-2012, 01:11 PM
Ive had a few races with STI's, S4's and Evo's. You would be shocked as to how the outcome is when you do a roll race compared to off the line. Even with my friends G37 if we raced off the line he would be right next to me through 2nd and i would only pull maybe one car on him by the end of 3rd. If i was to race him from 3rd gear, a roll race he would get murdered.

It gave him false hope that if i only pulled him by barely one car by the end of 3rd in a race were we raced off the line that i would barely pull on him on roll races. Its the same outcome for me with an sti i raced, he beat me bad off the line and kept it there and on the highway i pulled on him easily. Dont know why, maybe its just my car thats that way but to me a roll race and off the line is two different races.

jbridwelltransam
02-19-2012, 02:54 PM
I'm sure we will run them some more. I'm going suspension first so it will be a while before I will walk from him.

subzerotm
02-19-2012, 05:31 PM
is yours A4? if not, you need a driver mod.

you ran a 12.5 w/ 437 rwhp and you are telling others they need a driver mod?? rofl

hendrixx
02-19-2012, 07:57 PM
This is interesting, I have a friend with a stage 2 wrx and I hang right with him at all times, does this mean my lt1 might turn a low 13 sec with traction in its current state!?!?! I hope so lol

lol, if its an STI, and stage 2, and if youre a stock lt1, and you can hang with him from a dig or from a roll, then he needs to learn to drive, or to buy a new car lol.

If you are going to try and tell a joke you might want to get the punchline right. :punch:

lol youre an idiot, who said it was a joke? i honestly had no idea they make exhausts, and made the HUGE mistake of saying they make software rather than hardware, but seriously, thanks SO much for correcting me, you do such a service to everyone for clearing this right up.

you ran a 12.5 w/ 437 rwhp and you are telling others they need a driver mod?? rofl

have you ever heard of tires like hockey pucks? or a 2.2 60ft? lets see what you can run on 275/35's with 440 horse idiot rofl

and besides that, the previous owner of my car ran those times. i have a different suspension set up and new wheels with DRs, and 4.10s. the last thing i need is a driver mod, more like rear end mod now.

ScreaminRedZ
02-19-2012, 09:25 PM
Good kill!

and besides that, the previous owner of my car ran those times. i have a different suspension set up and new wheels with DRs, and 4.10s. the last thing i need is a driver mod, more like rear end mod now.

You list the previous owner's track numbers in your sig? For serious?

hendrixx
02-19-2012, 09:42 PM
to show what my car has ran, for serious.

if you bought an 11 second car, and he gave you the slips, and you havent had the chance to run it down the track, would you not save people the time of asking what it ran when you know what the car did? ive never driven with the guy, so i cant comment on his driving skills, but i know he was asleep at the wheel as well with a 2 sec reaction time lol.

just did it for basically a baseline for my car i guess.

for cereal guys

NOLAG05
02-19-2012, 09:51 PM
Good kill on a junior AWD driver... Stage II equals around 315ish... Is he running a Cobb Accessport and is he tuned or just have the parts on the car? Your in South Carolina... I don't know any Subie tuners around there except for Top Speed in Georgia... Wait til he learns how to drive and get that thing tuned bro... whole different car once thats done...
I wish you lived closer to Maryland... My STi isn't slow by any means... Barrie is close to Windsor right? I might have to bring her home to Detroit and go hunting in Canada...lol

ScreaminRedZ
02-19-2012, 09:51 PM
If I hadn't run the car myself I would just list the dyno numbers, especially if the track numbers sucked balls. And before you cry about the fact that he ran the car on shit tires, if you don't like it then take the numbers down until you run it the way you want it set up.

LightningTeg
02-19-2012, 09:55 PM
I dont list the times the previous owner of my car did because how could I back that up?

hendrixx
02-19-2012, 09:58 PM
true, but thats why i specified it was on street tires... i did it mostly to show the trap speed, again not too high but a good 10 mph over stock... his best mph was 118 he said. probably right though, its not impressive numbers by any means, so i probably should take it off the sig lol

and yeah barrie is only about 4 hours north of windsor, maybe more haha... an hour north of toronto though, i can meet you there ;) OR! everyone can come to the big f body show in Niagara falls, where we attempt to make the biggest car mural or whatever the fuck its called lol.

should be LOTS of good races coming out of there. my friend with his 650whp SRT4 is coming down with me, gonna cruise in and let the mullets start talking shit to him and see who wants to get their ass handed to em first lol. (srt is his track car, stg 2 sti is his daily)

crazboy99
02-19-2012, 09:58 PM
I might as well go ahead and put 10.8 in my Sig then. That is what it ran with previous owner with a different setup... Sounds like some rice... If YOU don't run it, than YOU can't claim it...

ScreaminRedZ
02-19-2012, 10:03 PM
All ball busting aside, the dyno numbers are good and if someone asks what it ran just tell them you haven't had the chance to run it yet.

hendrixx
02-19-2012, 10:22 PM
crazyboy, not 100% true, what if i was at the track when he ran it?? :D lol


and yeah, very true, but most people say its not the numbers its puts down its all about the ET, which again is very true.



annnnyways ill go take that out of my sig now lol... getting my 11 sec slip in the spring :) hopefully i dont blow the stock rear end to bits

ScreaminRedZ
02-19-2012, 10:56 PM
Good luck getting into the 11's and not blowing the rear lol

hendrixx
02-19-2012, 11:10 PM
hey man, ive heard of people running 10s on the stock rear end!! i hope im one of those lucky people that gets one or two runs out of her before its hiroshima all over again

crazboy99
02-19-2012, 11:14 PM
If it takes a dump on ya, it just means time for an upgrade. Good luck with the ET.

ScreaminRedZ
02-19-2012, 11:27 PM
My buddy went 11.2 on his stock 10-bolt in an M6 car. Of course the 60' wasn't good so that helped the rear, lol.

snake95
02-20-2012, 05:10 AM
Good kill!



You list the previous owner's track numbers in your sig? For serious?

But he has a 598 foot cam!

justin455
02-20-2012, 09:14 AM
hey man, ive heard of people running 10s on the stock rear end!! i hope im one of those lucky people that gets one or two runs out of her before its hiroshima all over again

If you're an A4 it's possible. If you're an M6 it might happen once...then you break it on the next pass.

hendrixx
02-20-2012, 10:34 AM
But he has a 598 foot cam!

omg you caught my typo! yeah way to go!

willizm
02-20-2012, 11:13 AM
lol youre an idiot, who said it was a joke? i honestly had no idea they make exhausts, and made the HUGE mistake of saying they make software rather than hardware, but seriously, thanks SO much for correcting me, you do such a service to everyone for clearing this right up.

Hey I'm not going to call you names. It's not a defense mechanism that I feel is necessary. It was a joke, just like someone posting the previous owners ET as their own.

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but slow cars will never beat me. :D

ZFreie
02-20-2012, 11:31 AM
Hey I'm not going to call you names. It's not a defense mechanism that I feel is necessary. It was a joke, just like someone posting the previous owners ET as their own.

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but slow cars will never beat me. :D
Yea, hes a pretty beastly guy, I wouldnt wanna fuck with him either. lol

hendrixx
02-20-2012, 11:45 AM
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but slow cars will never beat me. :D

hey man not fair!

and dont take it to heart when i call you an idiot. you come off seriously when you type those sentences so i thought you were being a nazi

willizm
02-20-2012, 11:49 AM
Yea, hes a pretty beastly guy, I wouldnt wanna fuck with him either. lol
ROFL!!! that had me laughing, I didn't even think about him when I wrote that.
hey man not fair!

and dont take it to heart when i call you an idiot. you come off seriously when you type those sentences so i thought you were being a nazi

:cheers:

Toronto LT1
02-20-2012, 12:00 PM
My STi isn't slow by any means... Barrie is close to Windsor right? I might have to bring her home to Detroit and go hunting in Canada...lol
You better hope you don't run into this slow LT1.:angel:
http://youtu.be/0_lS1lujmH0

94nismoformula
02-20-2012, 05:41 PM
^<3 first and only in 8s and 9s

NOLAG05
02-20-2012, 08:31 PM
Only if he has it on the streets...lol.:pimp:

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You better hope you don't run into this slow LT1.:angel:
http://youtu.be/0_lS1lujmH0

jbridwelltransam
02-21-2012, 09:09 AM
To the STI guy He did say something about a COBB access port, I have no idea what it is.

willizm
02-21-2012, 12:13 PM
It's a flash tune like a preditor or any of those other hand held flashers. I have a cobb for my bimmer. They are decent, but not as good as a solid dyno tune.

s346k
02-21-2012, 12:37 PM
Op: good kill, but I agree with everyone saying you shouldve pulled more.

How do those cars compare to say an 11 evo?

NOLAG05
02-21-2012, 04:27 PM
Agreed... Nothing like a good dyno tune. The Accessport has "off the shelf" maps that change the profile of the car with mild adjustments. After he gets dyno tuned you should run him again and see where you stand. Not sayin he will win because the driver mod might need to happen until he learns how to launch his car... but it should be a closer race... Still good kill...


It's a flash tune like a preditor or any of those other hand held flashers. I have a cobb for my bimmer. They are decent, but not as good as a solid dyno tune.