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Old 02-27-2012, 11:47 AM
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I went to the track yesterday to get some baseline times before I got retuned this coming Sunday. All day I blew the tires off until the last pass when I finally got my tire pressure right and burnout right.

But when I got to the track I noticed this silver 5.0 with a big and little setup, so it got my curiosity up and I wanted to see what was done to it. I walked over to his car and started talking to the guy. He told me the car was 100% bone stock and he had ran a best of 11.9@117 the last time at the track. I kind of gave him the whatever look and then started looking over his car. I could be wrong but I noticed the car had shorty headers and full exhaust. Correct me if I'm wrong but the 5.0 still comes with manifolds from the factory. But anyway he wanted to run me so we done our burnouts and lined up. Tree falls and I launched at 4500 and blew the tires off, he jumped out a car but before I hit second I pulled back even with him and then from there it was completely over. I ran an 11.9@118 with a 1.9 sixty to his 13.7@110 with a 1.8 sixty. I think his best run of the day was a 13.2@111. Definitely a long ways away from an 11.9@117 that he said he ran.

My finally pass I got lined up next to a 1,000hp TT Camaro. This car looked amazing. We both cut a 1.7 sixty and he ran a 10.6@141 to my 11.8@119.

All in all it was a fun day. I got a kill and then I got absolutely murdered
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NIce kill and loss. I would expect more out the TT 1000hp 5th Gen. Yes the 5.0 comes with basically shorty headers from the factory. They are tubular headers.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
NIce kill and loss. I would expect more out the TT 1000hp 5th Gen. Yes the 5.0 comes with basically shorty headers from the factory. They are tubular headers.
Heavy car and no traction isn't gonna put up impressive numbers, even as far as traps go. I imagine that thing was skating past the 1/8. Probably finally hooked up somewhere top end and started to build some speed.
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Sounds about right for a big HP 5th Gen .
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I think the 5.0 is a bigger let down than the Camaro. 141 mph is moving.

Was the car setup for the track (gutted/tire/suspension/etc.) or did it appear to be in street trim?
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Originally Posted by PewterScreaminMach
Heavy car and no traction isn't gonna put up impressive numbers, even as far as traps go. I imagine that thing was skating past the 1/8. Probably finally hooked up somewhere top end and started to build some speed.
My car is just as heavy. So no excuse. ANd he would have been on slicks/DR's. So still not impressed.

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I think the 5.0 is a bigger let down than the Camaro. 141 mph is moving.

Was the car setup for the track (gutted/tire/suspension/etc.) or did it appear to be in street trim?
How is this?

1000hp and only 10.6...Come on..really.
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If I'm not wrong that is ADM built TT car that just hit the track this week.

The car hit a best of 10.1@147.


He lost traction all the way down the track and was playing with pedal.
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From what I was told the Camaro was doing his burnout in the water box and then rolling to the line and launching on wet tires but that's what I was told he done. I didn't pay any attention to his burnout. And he was on slicks and skinnies and had a cage
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2ssarme: he said told us he was on and off the gas on every pass but I think that goes back to doing a burnout in the waterbox.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
My car is just as heavy. So no excuse. ANd he would have been on slicks/DR's. So still not impressed.



How is this?

1000hp and only 10.6...Come on..really.
5.0s ar not as heavy a 5th gens and don't pay attention to that ET there are too many variables. 141 mph in a heavy 5th Gen is flat out MOVING.
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Originally Posted by whipplecharged03
But when I got to the track I noticed this silver 5.0 with a big and little setup, so it got my curiosity up and I wanted to see what was done to it. I walked over to his car and started talking to the guy. He told me the car was 100% bone stock and he had ran a best of 11.9@117 the last time at the track.
The bold condradict each other . Good kill/death though.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
My car is just as heavy. So no excuse. ANd he would have been on slicks/DR's. So still not impressed.



How is this?

1000hp and only 10.6...Come on..really.
Ever hear of "tweaking" a setup? It trapped over 140mph and we know almost none of the variables. Get off your high horse.

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Originally Posted by toxic99
The bold condradict each other . Good kill/death though.
actually if you re-read the post you will notice that I said I saw a 5.0 with a BIG AND LITTLE setup and HE THE OWNER said it was 100% STOCK. but thanks. i had fun.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
How is this?

1000hp and only 10.6...Come on..really.
Ok, I'll elaborate.

In my opinion, it is MUCH harder to drive a car with 1000 hp down a track and get it turn the time it's "supposed" to turn than it is a car with tires and exhaust.

Therefore the 5.0, with full exhaust and tires, not being able to break 12s, along with a stockish trap speed, is more of a let down than the 1000 hp camaro.
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Originally Posted by necrocannibal
5.0s ar not as heavy a 5th gens and don't pay attention to that ET there are too many variables. 141 mph in a heavy 5th Gen is flat out MOVING.
My car weighs about 100 less then a 5th Gen with same options. As for trap ya good trap. But in a drag race ET matters.
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Originally Posted by whipplecharged03
actually if you re-read the post you will notice that I said I saw a 5.0 with a BIG AND LITTLE setup and HE THE OWNER said it was 100% STOCK. but thanks. i had fun.
I did notice it wasnt directed AT YOU , but more or less at ohio and his bullshit in every ****** 5.0 thread where he says stuff like "yea a 5.0 picked up 10 mph with just a tune, everything else bone stock.....(cept he forgot to mention it has no ****** seats, spare tire and is on big n lils with a racin bucket seat....)"
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Nice job whipple against the 5.0 moron.


Lot of fast 5th gens coming out lately!!
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Originally Posted by MONG00SE
Ok, I'll elaborate.

In my opinion, it is MUCH harder to drive a car with 1000 hp down a track and get it turn the time it's "supposed" to turn than it is a car with tires and exhaust.

Therefore the 5.0, with full exhaust and tires, not being able to break 12s, along with a stockish trap speed, is more of a let down than the 1000 hp camaro.
Where he say had exhaust? Tires is another thing. And I watched several guys in cars that should run a lot faster yesterday struggle. From a TA I raced run a high 12 all day with full exhaust, lid, cold air, spray, a 2011 with cold air, tune, catback, tires run mid 12s and worst was a 2012 GT500 with bigs/little's tune cold air run best of 12.4.
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My bad toxic99.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Where he say had exhaust?

Originally Posted by whipplecharged03
I could be wrong but I noticed the car had shorty headers and full exhaust. Correct me if I'm wrong but the 5.0 still comes with manifolds from the factory.
Originally Posted by ohioborn80
And I watched several guys in cars that should run a lot faster yesterday struggle. From a TA I raced run a high 12 all day with full exhaust, lid, cold air, spray, a 2011 with cold air, tune, catback, tires run mid 12s and worst was a 2012 GT500 with bigs/little's tune cold air run best of 12.4.
Watched guys struggle at the track yesterday... Same day/track as OP? If not, how is this relevant?

If so then why, if you knew guys were struggling, are you ripping on the camaro?



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