Automotive News, Media & Press - Chris Rado`s crazy 2500hp street Supra

What a beast, Supra street car with a 6.2L Toyota Tundra V8 with twin 76s at 2500hp. The article says the engine can handle 10,000rpm and 50psi! I always knew that Tundra engine would be downright nasty if someone built it up right. Nothing better than a DOHC V8 with some decent displacement. Even more crazy is that its a street car. No doubt with Chris Rado(a crazy, skilled, maniac of a driver) behind the wheel, it will carry an undefeated street record. Hopefully he will be at Tx2K12 and blow every Lambo`s doors off; with that car`s aeros+power I doubt theres more than 5 street cars in the world that could touch it in a roll, if that. I imagine he will also be hitting some mile races and surely setting some 270+ mph records. This is one import I envy, it has a V8! Words just cant explain....

See for yourself:

http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011/10/31/builds-gt-gt-team-need-for-speed-world-racing-supra.aspx

damn, and just when I thought I was building a fast street car..here comes somebody with way more money than me to tell me " I ain't shit!" lol

Rado said:
Hey guys thanks for all the kind words about our build. SOHC you mentioned the 3UR is a 5.7 and you are correct, but after you build a billet crank and other internals our engine pumps to just under 6.2liters. Also just to clarify we are building this car to run the mile and other Top Speed runs so while driving this vehicle at anytime under 150mph we will only be running like 5-7psi which will easily net over 1000hp and boost will start climbing from there as drag and speed increases so will the boost pressure. Many other goodies to list but you'll just have to stay tuned and see. There is much madness to come!!

Thanks Again-

Chris

damn, and just when I thought I was building a fast street car..here comes somebody with way more money than me to tell me " I ain't shit!" lol

Lol, seriously. This car is nuts. I cant imagine driving something that powerful on the street. With the huge wing that everyone would think is ricerish and the car probably "only" makes 700 if that, you could take alot of peoples money in a hurry on the highway!

i want to see some vids

Jesus christ that thing can probably go faster than warp drive. How do you even drive that on the street. Cars like that just seem uncontrolable.

Thats Chris Rado for you. A truly sick SOB. Lol, I really cant think of any street legal car out there that could take it from a roll. The crazy thing is he is running a manual trans, he said its a custom Weissman transmission. Not the best idea for boost but guaranteed it will be a hard charging beast above 150mph. The 60-130 record will obviously be belonging to him shortly if he does it. The standing mile record is 266 right now by a 1900hp Ford GT and that will obviously be going down as well. I wonder if he built it to handle as well? Id love to see him behind the wheel of that monster at the Nurburgring.

I can not wait to see it in action.

I'm in the middle of building a new motor for my car, and I can truly appreciate this build. It might not be my style, wait, who am I kidding, v-8 power, lots of boost, and honestly, I always liked the looks of the supras, hell what's not to like about it.

Id love to see him behind the wheel of that monster at the Nurburgring.

he might find himself lodged in a few trees in that thing!

Thats Chris Rado for you. A truly sick SOB. Lol, I really cant think of any street legal car out there that could take it from a roll. The crazy thing is he is running a manual trans, he said its a custom Weissman transmission. Not the best idea for boost but guaranteed it will be a hard charging beast above 150mph. The 60-130 record will obviously be belonging to him shortly if he does it. The standing mile record is 266 right now by a 1900hp Ford GT and that will obviously be going down as well. I wonder if he built it to handle as well? Id love to see him behind the wheel of that monster at the Nurburgring.

Considering the current 60-130 record holder is a AWD Lamborghini in the 2000hp range(3.0 seconds, I don't see a street RWD car hitting that without being at a drag track), and the GT had 1900whp, didn't it? That's around 2200hp at the crank, which is where the 2500 number they are going for(as in, unless I read wrong this engine does not make 2500hp right now it's just a goal) is. They aren't going to touch the 60-130 record at 1000hp like they said (1000hp only to 150mph), maybe they will take the mile record though. Which, is not 266, that run was done with bad timing equipment(which makes a HUGE difference when going that fast).

Either way, this is an awesome car, and I really like the fact that they kept it clean instead of being totally covered in sponsor stickers.

I'm in the middle of building a new motor for my car, and I can truly appreciate this build. It might not be my style, wait, who am I kidding, v-8 power, lots of boost, and honestly, I always liked the looks of the supras, hell what's not to like about it.

Aint that the truth. I find myself saying "Id rather have a TT LSX-454" when looking at vids/pics of 1500+ hp Supras/R34s/R35s/Evos/Silvias. Although with this one, I really dont think Id change anything about it. I bet that 6.2L DOHC thats in there is nasty under boost. It came out in October so why the h3ll is there nothing else out there about the car though?!

Considering the current 60-130 record holder is a AWD Lamborghini in the 2000hp range(3.0 seconds, I don't see a street RWD car hitting that without being at a drag track), and the GT had 1900whp, didn't it? That's around 2200hp at the crank, which is where the 2500 number they are going for(as in, unless I read wrong this engine does not make 2500hp right now it's just a goal) is. They aren't going to touch the 60-130 record at 1000hp like they said (1000hp only to 150mph), maybe they will take the mile record though. Which, is not 266, that run was done with bad timing equipment(which makes a HUGE difference when going that fast).

Either way, this is an awesome car, and I really like the fact that they kept it clean instead of being totally covered in sponsor stickers.

If not 266, then what? I wasnt counting bikes but yeah I know Bill Warner ran 311mph on a 800hp Busa with some fairing work.

If not 266, then what? I wasnt counting bikes but yeah I know Bill Warner ran 311mph on a 800hp Busa with some fairing work.

I think 250 is still the record at Texas with a Lamborghini. The GT that went 266 had gone 249 in Texas the same year with only minor changes between the two runs, which wouldn't have come close to making it go an extra 17mph. All the cars that were there the day of the 266 run were going faster then they should have been. IIRC the day before all the cars had gone much slower too, which shows they weren't setting up the equipment very well.

Thats a bad ass Supra... what i don't get is a 10,000 RPM limit and he said on low boost it'll still make 1,000 HP.... at 4 or 5 psi.

displacement FTW!

I have a feeling traction will be a serious issue.

That's a really cool project, and I am not a supra fan at all really.

Let's face it, when it comes to a project like this, you don't just go out and start breaking records. I'm sure it's going to take a lot of testing and trial and error to figure out traction, gearing, and aero in order to run 250+ in the mile.

Just look at the guys from LMR. That black camaro looked like a sure bet to take the record back, but they ran into traction issues and problems with tires.

Fact is, the tt-Gallardos have pretty good aero from the factory, and all wheel drive is a beutiful thing when you're trying to put 1,000+hp to the ground.

I love how the term "street car" gets thrown around with builds lol. Cool car still.

If not 266, then what? I wasnt counting bikes but yeah I know Bill Warner ran 311mph on a 800hp Busa with some fairing work.

Fastest stock framed bike at the TX mile went 276 and change. Warners Busa has a little more than some fairing work buddy....

Lots of speculation in this thread. Car is sick. 60-130 record...highly doubt it. Bob Helms big power Viper with a glide in it had the record for a long time, with a BIG tire.

Getting that car to hook wont even be possible. Even with those 375mm Pirellis.

Car is downright nasty but Alchemist and gocartone hit the nail on the head

neat setup. i wonder how long the stock block casting will last at that power level considering a lot of the architecture is LS based..lol.

neat setup. i wonder how long the stock block casting will last at that power level considering a lot of the architecture is LS based..lol.

Good question. I'm sure they pulled out all the stops with trying to keep the block together.

neat setup. i wonder how long the stock block casting will last at that power level considering a lot of the architecture is LS based..lol.

Good point, especially at those rpms. And yeah I know Bill Warners bike is far from stock, I wasnt trying to imply that fairing work was the only thing done......buddy. Sorry if it came across that way. I try to follow what he does on suzukihayabusa.org very closely. I figured people on a car site wouldnt much care anyway though, guess not but whatever.

And as far as traction issues, I dont know now, I mean of course 2500hp isnt going to hook on the street if you you let the turbos spool normally. But if you read what Rado said how theyre doing the boost management I think itll do alright. Theyre basically stepping up the boost by speed so I really dont see why it would just blow the tires off uncontrollably no matter what. Saying its impossible is very ignorant imo, with a team like Rado`s Im sure they can get it to work. They have accomplished quite a bit, and Rado drives a 2000hp drag car btw so its not like he doesnt know what hes getting into.

Good point, especially at those rpms. And yeah I know Bill Warners bike is far from stock, I wasnt trying to imply that fairing work was the only thing done......buddy. Sorry if it came across that way. I try to follow what he does on suzukihayabusa.org very closely. I figured people on a car site wouldnt much care anyway though, guess not but whatever.

And as far as traction issues, I dont know now, I mean of course 2500hp isnt going to hook on the street if you you let the turbos spool normally. But if you read what Rado said how theyre doing the boost management I think itll do alright. Theyre basically stepping up the boost by speed so I really dont see why it would just blow the tires off uncontrollably no matter what. Saying its impossible is very ignorant imo, with a team like Rado`s Im sure they can get it to work. They have accomplished quite a bit, and Rado drives a 2000hp drag car btw so its not like he doesnt know what hes getting into.

Nobody said they don't know what they're doing, just saying that it probably won't happen as easily as some may thing. Of course he's got a good grasp on things, but hitting 250+ in a mile with a 'street' car isn't something you do right out of the box. Hell the LMR guys brought their corvette to the GM wind tunnel to do testing and data logging to figure out how to make the car more stable at 250mph and how to reduce drag at the same time. Things are dramatically different at 250mph than they are at 200.

Hm, do you know what the highest speed LMR reached with their car was? Or do you know where I could find more info on the car?

Also,what would you say is the most aerodynamic car right out of the factory? How does, say, a C6`s aeros compare with like a Gallardo and a Viper? And does the rear end of a car affect the aeros very much(aside from a spoiler), or is it pretty much all about the front? Because for exaple, on MotoGP bikes, the rear end barely amounts to anything. Although Im not sure this would apply to cars.

Lift, frontal area, drag coefficient.
Sometimes it pays to have a "less aerodynamic" car if it means it will stay on the ground.

Drag Area (frontal area and drag coefficient) is crucial in determining top speed.
A base C6 has a drag coefficient of .286. It also has a fairly small frontal area.
A Z06 has a drag coefficient of .34... Why? Because of additional down force, for improved handling at speed.

A base C6 has a frontal area of about 22 sq ft. So its drag area is around 6.29.

An MK4 supra has a drag coefficient of .31-.32+ (depending on wing).
It is about as wide and taller, so it's drag area is likely higher.

How do you factor things like superchargers sticking out the hood or grills/air inlets/scoops into the aeros of a car? Im sure they create turbulence but can you assign a quantity to it? And where do you get the drag coefficients for cars, or did you calculate it yourself?

And a random question: the drag coefficient equation requires one to have the drag force, while the drag force equation requires the coefficient of drag. If you dont know either one, how would one go about solving it? I guess real world testing?

Sick car.

And does the rear end of a car affect the aeros very much(aside from a spoiler),

The rear is very important. It affects how the air releases from the vehicle. Look at the rear of a Cup Car. Sharp 90* release. Look how much sharper the edge is on the C6 over the C5. Ther newer high end sports cars are getting sharper at the rear of the fenders.

Here's the article on the camaro they built for the texas mile events:
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/features/ghtp_1201_2000_chevrolet_camaro_ss_terminal_veloci ty/index.html

And here's the article about the corvette they brought to the GM wind tunnel.
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/tech/ghtp_1201_aerodynamic_tweaking_racing_drag/index.html

I didn't believe that a 2JZ making 2500hp could be reliable enough to go in a street car... V8 FTW!

I'd be curious what a NHRA Pro-stock car with the right gearing could run considering they go 200+ in a quarter mile.

Thanks for showing me that alchemist. Im not sure if its the same car but the only thing I remember LMR doing was making a 239mph pass on 20" street tires or something like that and never heard anything else about it.

And the 2JZ, lol, Im glad there arent any/many Supra worshippers in here, wed never hear the end of them saying something like "if Rado was smart he wouldve used a 2JZ he coulda made 2600hp" lol. It seems the Supra fanboys that say the most ignorant things dont even own one. I think an import with a V8 is badass, much less one with a Jap DOHC V8. Yet in the comments on that site there were guys shunning him for taking the 2JZ out, like it wouldve even been capable of doing that. :burn: There just comes a point when displacement will take over.

Id like to see what a Pro Stock car would do too. They only push ~1400hp yet were running next to 2500hp Outlaw cars/Pro Mods up til a few years ago. Those teams know what the hell theyre doing. It really shows what can be done with enough $$$.

Id like to see what a Pro Stock car would do too. They only push ~1400hp yet were running next to 2500hp Outlaw cars/Pro Mods up til a few years ago. Those teams know what the hell theyre doing. It really shows what can be done with enough $$$.

You can't compare pro stock to pro mod. The cars are night and day different. Look at NHRA cars. NHRA PS cars are a max of 500CI, min weight of 2350, 1300+ hp, and spin 10k+ rpm on NA setups. Pro mods are way different. Weight, engine cubes, blower/turbo sizing, sometimes fuel is different also depending on power adder. If your running a turbo, you have X cubes and weight where a blower or nitrous car could have X cubes and weight. Where Pro Stock is basically "cookie cutter" type of cars. The only big differences are they could be powered by gm, ford, or hemi based big blocks. Something that is comparable to an nhra pro stock car would have been the pro stock trucks before nhra axed them. Pro stock trucks had the same limitations as cars. Now I can see Maybe a non competitive pro mod being kinda close to a pro stock, but even then the times from start to the stripe are off by a decent amount.

And the 2JZ, lol, Im glad there arent any/many Supra worshippers in here, wed never hear the end of them saying something like "if Rado was smart he wouldve used a 2JZ he coulda made 2600hp" lol. It seems the Supra fanboys that say the most ignorant things dont even own one.LOL, I agree. :nod:

Yes I know theyre much different, just using those as a rough example of how strong pro stock cars run; ignoring the difference in tire, $$, weight, years theyve been running, etc. I like pro stock cars but I much prefer watching and following OL and P/M, especially with the turbo cars starting to really get dialed in. With so many big names going turbo for this year in pro xtreme hopefully well see some some 3.70s maybe 3.60s out of the turbo cars. That reminds me, time to head over to yb to see if theres any updates from Gainesville. May just ride down there this weekend.

LMR went 246.4mph and I believe there is still more left in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c7Vml-gEzW8#!

Yes I know theyre much different, just using those as a rough example of how strong pro stock cars run; ignoring the difference in tire, $$, weight, years theyve been running, etc. I like pro stock cars but I much prefer watching and following OL and P/M, especially with the turbo cars starting to really get dialed in. With so many big names going turbo for this year in pro xtreme hopefully well see some some 3.70s maybe 3.60s out of the turbo cars. That reminds me, time to head over to yb to see if theres any updates from Gainesville. May just ride down there this weekend.

I love stock style suspension classes and drag radial classes. NHRA the sportsman classes and pro stock are my favorites. I don't care for top fuel or the bikes so I do agree.

I love stock style suspension classes and drag radial classes. NHRA the sportsman classes and pro stock are my favorites. I don't care for top fuel or the bikes so I do agree.

Oh yes, the Drag radial scene is really popping. Those are probably the wildest cars out there imo. Although Id much rather see D/R cars run the full 1/4 than the 1/8 like nearly everyone is doing nowadays; X275, etc.

Also, is there any credibility to this/am I interpreting it right?:

http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-racing/news/19878-one-fast-supra

"Between Luzinsky's expertise (currently holds World's 6 cylinder turbo ET record in the 1/8 mile at 3.93 seconds and Speed record at 190) and Tecklenburg's expertise (currently holds World's all time quickest turbo vehicle of any kind to 1/8 mile 3.82 seconds) they were able to predict to within .008 seconds what the car was capable of in it's present configuration, writing down 6.469 seconds during the pre event engineer briefing with EKanoo Racing Car Chief Haider Koohzad of Muharraq, Bahrain."

A SUPRA HOLDS THE FASTEST TURBO 1/8?!
Damn, well I imagine thatll change pretty quickly this year with more turbo entries in Pro Xtreme...

Oh yes, the Drag radial scene is really popping. Those are probably the wildest cars out there imo. Although Id much rather see D/R cars run the full 1/4 than the 1/8 like nearly everyone is doing nowadays; X275, etc.

Also, is there any credibility to this/am I interpreting it right?:

http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-racing/news/19878-one-fast-supra

"Between Luzinsky's expertise (currently holds World's 6 cylinder turbo ET record in the 1/8 mile at 3.93 seconds and Speed record at 190) and Tecklenburg's expertise (currently holds World's all time quickest turbo vehicle of any kind to 1/8 mile 3.82 seconds) they were able to predict to within .008 seconds what the car was capable of in it's present configuration, writing down 6.469 seconds during the pre event engineer briefing with EKanoo Racing Car Chief Haider Koohzad of Muharraq, Bahrain."

A SUPRA HOLDS THE FASTEST TURBO 1/8?!
Damn, well I imagine thatll change pretty quickly this year with more turbo entries in Pro Xtreme...


The article is referring to a car that he worked on in the past, not the Supra in that vid. The car in the vid broke a Supra record.

It looks like you are trying to take away from this car's accomplishment because you obviously don't like the 2JZ. Its a solid motor in its own right and still managed to keep itself relevant in modern performance.

Now as for the car in the thread I must say it sounds very impressive and a good move for that type of power.

I'd be curious what a NHRA Pro-stock car with the right gearing could run considering they go 200+ in a quarter mile.

GForce ran one to 240 in the TX mile.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnYpn_5pGyM