LS4 Performance - GXP Vs Cobalt ss/sc

so guys my cousin just got a cobalt ss, and now really is pushing my buttons on racing him, he says that my gxp is too heavy and he will leave me by 2 cars or more. what do you guys think? should i race him or do i give him props??

My gxp completly stock

his ss, supposedly it has some kind of gm performance package i dont know other than that stock and 5speed

u will lose, you have a chance outta the hole as they have a tough time getting traction from a dig but your gonna lose .

I put a few cars on a stage 2 S/C no problem they are quick but if you can drive you shouldn't have a problem beating him.

s/c should be a lot easier than the T. Ive raced both but neither stock form. IF u loose u can always refer to it being a cavalier.

s/c should be a lot easier than the T. Ive raced both but neither stock form. IF u loose u can always refer to it being a cavalier.

:funny: very true

Wouldn't that mean he just got beat by a cavalier than?

I've never lost to an SS sc and I'm just bolt ons...race him and find out. I've beat my buddies stage 3 a few times by a length or more.

I have a GXP and my brother-in law has an SS. They are pretty quick. I went with him to pick it up when he bought it. He got it in Bloomington I drove it back all the way to Arlington heights. I topped it out on the way back and when I told him how fast I was going he started giggling like a little girl (it was brand new too). I think if your friend had a stage 2 or 3 kit on it should be faster. Ive driven one with a stage 2 and first gear is useless front tires just go up in smoke if you give it more than half throttle.

I would assume that you'll lose, but all these people saying they have beat a Cobalt SS / SC.... I want a video when you race him!! Good Luck!

Stock cobalt sc 14.4 stage 2 13.8 stage 3 13.6 ....stock we go 13.9-14....catlless Downpipe exhaust intake and a tune your looking at 13.5 or better. Not rocket science

i been in it and i most admit it does go pretty quick for a 4 cylinder but ima be confident in my gxp if i win i win and if i dont i don't no worries, ill will have that video tho, another thing when we race from the dig should i be using the tap shift or is that only while rolling??

If your stock and hes stage 2 it will be close. Probably a drivers race.
Im sorry guys but i raced my cousins ss/sc when we were both bone stock and i got him by 2ish. Maybe a lil more.

maybe it just depends on the driver, sounds to me like everybody has different results with these cars

Yeah if your a bum driver you'll lose, of you drive the car like it can and should be driven you WILL win stock vs stock and most likely stage 2

Hmmm hard to say. I own both, a quite modded gxp and a balt SC stage 2 with catback. I'm sure the gxp would prevail, but man the s/c pulls hard as hell. Makes me wonder, although I haven't lined the 2 together. Unfortunately the gxp is in need of tranny work this year, so its going to have to wait. Lol

I also owned a 06 SS cobalt performance stage 2, I'm not being bias, like al Sharpton I'm speaking the truth....

slap a pully and injectors on the Slowbalts and they can be pretty quick depending if your buddy can drive, I say it will be a good roll race

never raced one, but the local cruise night has quite a few of both the SCs and TCs and they seem to have a harder time getting traction than we do

the severe lack of traction could save you if you can race a fwd. not a easy skill to master. keep the race short and you got it 1/4 you should be ok from a free way on ramp................................different story

Where does one of those little Neon SRT4's stack up with the Cobalts?

Supercharged ,u have a chance jus depends on driver turbo idk . Not In stock form at least.maybe if u manually Shift and dont miss a Shift and dont lose to much traction .sorry For repeating what everyone else said jus had to give My 2 cents :)

Srt4 are a lot quicker. I've seen many with tires go high 11 low 12 on 25psi

Srt4 are a lot quicker. I've seen many with tires go high 11 low 12 on 25psi

Huh, no kidding. I was always curious about that. Threw down with one on the highway last fall and pulled on him. Granted I had literally no fuel left and it was a cooler day, but I was moving away from him slowly but surely.

Srt4 are a lot quicker. I've seen many with tires go high 11 low 12 on 25psi

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Huh, no kidding. I was always curious about that. Threw down with one on the highway last fall and pulled on him. Granted I had literally no fuel left and it was a cooler day, but I was moving away from him slowly but surely.

His car may not have been at 100% or he couldn't drive. Even in stock form with a good driver they'll pull on us from a roll.

There's a few 500hp srt4's around here that hurt plenty of feelings.

Like most 4 cylinders or "imports"...I don't care if it has 1100hp...its still gayer than a bag full of dicks...

Haha agreed....I'm sure someone Will flame in this conversation about their 2 million hp civic.

Well I raced a moded srt4 with my old 92 Audi s4 and he had a massive turbo. I'd keep up with him till top of my gear then he would walk. I'd shift and gain back ground. And I had beat some first gen sti's and one ws6 so they can be devilishly fast

You know, I've got my LS4 project going on in a rear engine Corvair. I had a one off adapter made for the FWD pattern, though a one off flywheel is a big part of it too. The cobalt motor would save a lot of weight in the back. And 300 hp wouldn't be too difficult to get with a turbo or SC. But I've already dumped a lot of cash into my current setup. Guess we'll see.

I've took a sc and I'm bone stock.. Now the turbo model is the one to really worry about.. Race him.. As long as he's not modded I'll think ull come out fine

im not afraid to take him on even if im stock next week we already have the race planed out ill make sure to get a video im confindent in the ls4

Your old a4 didn't keep up with anything with a "massive" turbo unless you had one of the worlds only 92 a4's to run in the 13's just saying. Let's keep to the facts here.

He did say he had an 1992 Audi S4 not an A4, which are completely different cars. http://www.dragtimes.com/Audi-S4-Timeslip-8912.html there's a link to one that went 12s. And an srt 4 running high 11s or low 12s has more than tires and 25 psi. It takes many mods to make an efficient 25 psi.

25psi on stock turbo....but please do explain how efficient Turbos work... http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=3ZirpdV3B-s

Srt4s do not come stock with a delta 55 turbo. The stock turbo will have compressor surge after 20 psi. All turbos have efficient operating psi ranges tho.

Your old a4 didn't keep up with anything with a "massive" turbo unless you had one of the worlds only 92 a4's to run in the 13's just saying. Let's keep to the facts here.

You proved why i owned the car.. Basically no one knew what it was. I could fly under the radar of the cops and other drivers. FWIW there was no 1992 A4, or A6 or anything, they were still called the Audi 80,100.

Basic info DOHC 2.2L I 5 forged, K24, External wastegate, side mount oil cooler and intercooler,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_Ur-S4_/_Ur-S6

http://s-cars.org/site/archives/630

Just dont spin too much and you should be be able to pull out this win.

Like most 4 cylinders or "imports"...I don't care if it has 1100hp...its still gayer than a bag full of dicks...

damn guess i own a gay car now. :(

i think the ops car should beat the sc cobalt. now the tc cobalt is a completely different animal, but still not unbeatable. im not going to claim to be the best stick driver in the world, but i drove a sc cobalt a couple years back, and was very unimpressed. i definitely think my monte would stomp one pretty hard. dont get me wrong theyre cool little cars, but not exactly a fair match up against an ls4 car. now if its actually a stage 3 car thats a different story.

damn guess i own a gay car now. :(

fo sho. :D

SRT4's are pretty damn good. I had a friend buy one about 2 years ago and I did the "LOL Neon" giggle at him. Once I looked into it I was pretty shocked. Then I got in it and let him show me what it could do. I was pretty speechless. Those cars were built to go fast and are no joke.