Forced Induction - Let's play, "What's that in my oil pan?"




The Alchemist
05-01-2012, 05:21 PM
So I blew up my motor back in January.... cracked the ring land on #7 blah blah blah, and the new motor is almost done so I was cleaning up my oil pan. Removed the baffle and there was a little bit of sludge in the front, not much, about an 1/8 inch or less, not bad for a motor with 65,000 miles on it. As I'm cleaning it out, I discover a little peice of metal, magnetic, sitting in the sludge.

Cleaned it off and sure enough it's a tiny c-clip. Here it is next to the baffle bolt for size reference.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/581076_3474852702900_1018675813_3110619_1877140008 _n.jpg

I have no clue what it goes to. No it's not needle bearings.


LS1CMR
05-01-2012, 05:35 PM
ive torn apart several ls motors and never seen that. first thought was lifter part but i dont think it is

The Alchemist
05-01-2012, 05:41 PM
It's got to be something internal, so lifters maybe, I don't know. I'm stumped.


Ryans99ls1
05-01-2012, 05:41 PM
know if anyone tore into the car before you bought it? i feel like that had to enter with the timing cover off. it looks like a c-clip to a locking header bolt but seems way too small.

NemeSS
05-01-2012, 05:42 PM
no clue:confused:
and ive torn down ALOT of busted motors of all kinds.

LSHUNT
05-01-2012, 05:42 PM
ive torn apart several ls motors and never seen that. first thought was lifter part but i dont think it is

The lifter retainers are thinner and not flat. I'm not sure what it is though.

LS1CMR
05-01-2012, 05:45 PM
seems to small to be from lifters, possibly oil pump pressure relief valve?

The Alchemist
05-01-2012, 05:50 PM
I am the original owner of the car, and this is the first time the oil pump and pan have been off the car. I've done heads/cam before, a few times, and I've never dropped anything in there. Where is the oil pump pressure releif valve?

The clip really is small. To give size reference the bolt above has a 10mm head on it.

LS1CMR
05-01-2012, 05:58 PM
its on the opposite side of the pickup tube, has i think an 8mm hex plug on the end, ive taken one apart but cant remember seeing that but there is a ball, spring and small plunger in there

The Alchemist
05-01-2012, 06:38 PM
Yeah, nothing missing or different with the oil pump. Checked the lifters and they are all fine as well.

boostit5.3
05-01-2012, 06:39 PM
could of been accidentaly dropped in..

The Alchemist
05-01-2012, 07:26 PM
Here's another clearer pic:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/575458_3475356235488_1018675813_3110771_1618435819 _n.jpg

Chicago TDP
05-01-2012, 07:48 PM
You might have had a "Friday at 5pm" motor....coulda been in there from when the pan was installed at the factory....almost looks like a clip from a throttle cable but that would have gone in and out of the motor.

TermnEatr
05-01-2012, 07:49 PM
Do u have a trunion kit on Ur rockers? They have c clips u said stock but Jw.

supersick99z
05-01-2012, 07:51 PM
Possible C clip from a trunion upgrade as stated before...if you have the trunion upgrade lol

The Alchemist
05-01-2012, 07:54 PM
The rockers are stockers, actually a combination of ls1 and ls3 style. No trunion upgrade, plus, aren't those c-clips larger?

thefastlife
05-01-2012, 09:34 PM
Top piece out of a lifter had one come apart looked similar

TermnEatr
05-01-2012, 10:06 PM
The lifters clips aren't as rounded as the one in the pic they are a diff style.

LS1CMR
05-01-2012, 10:23 PM
The rockers are stockers, actually a combination of ls1 and ls3 style. No trunion upgrade, plus, aren't those c-clips larger?

Yes the trunion upgrade are larger and they are snap rings.

ovalkiller
05-01-2012, 10:34 PM
what wheels are you running they look great

The Alchemist
05-02-2012, 06:13 AM
My overall concern is making sure when I put the motor back together that there isn't something missing a c-clip somewhere. I was looking over the oil level sender and trying to see if it came off it but I didn't see anywhere that it would fit.

TermnEatr
05-02-2012, 07:27 AM
what wheels are you running they look great

:offtopic:

stealth355tpi
05-02-2012, 09:21 AM
im stumped on this one, i was thinking rockers too but when i did the trunion upgrade i dont remember any clips like that. just a little present from gm haha. hows the new motor, any specs? mine broke over 600 and maxed out the pump so i went with a bigger pulley.

xssive
05-02-2012, 10:45 AM
Looks like a lifter plunger retainer

The Alchemist
05-02-2012, 11:27 AM
The lifter plunger retainer isn't a c-clip, and I checked all 16 lifters, they are fine.

stangtrader
05-02-2012, 01:25 PM
Edit never mind lol was in the pan.

The Alchemist
05-03-2012, 06:10 AM
im stumped on this one, i was thinking rockers too but when i did the trunion upgrade i dont remember any clips like that. just a little present from gm haha. hows the new motor, any specs? mine broke over 600 and maxed out the pump so i went with a bigger pulley.

Yeah, I honestly don't know how long it's been in the pan.

Good to hear you got your setup going. Where'd you dyno/tune it? We need to finally meet one of these days and shoot the shit.

Old Geezer
05-03-2012, 07:19 AM
Looks like a "Jesus clip" off of a linkage.....

stealth355tpi
05-03-2012, 11:19 AM
I went to a shop in horsham, where Joel works at. Non sponsor so I better not list it but I think you know who. Yea sounds good to me, wish this weather would finally clear up. The whole project took a lot longer then expected but it was worth it.

venom ws7
05-03-2012, 11:27 AM
Something from the Timing chain !!! :lol:

got-a-ls1
05-03-2012, 11:40 AM
muffler bearing retainer

I8UR4RD
05-03-2012, 08:28 PM
:offtopic:

:jest:

I wonder if it came out of an oil filter. I have never cut one open, and that may be highly unlikely...but as usual I am just thinking outside the box.

So.jerZ-28
05-05-2012, 02:45 AM
There is nothing on a Ls motor or anything in engine bay that has the style/size clip. I do know from experience that those clips tend to snag onto rags & towels.
So only guess I have, is that you had your oil changed, & mechanic wiped excess oil that he dribbled onto filler neck or valve cover with rag & that clip was hanging on rag & fell in.

got-a-ls1
05-05-2012, 08:05 AM
I went to a shop in horsham, where Joel works at. Non sponsor so I better not list it but I think you know who. Yea sounds good to me, wish this weather would finally clear up. The whole project took a lot longer then expected but it was worth it.

There is nothing on a Ls motor or anything in engine bay that has the style/size clip. I do know from experience that those clips tend to snag onto rags & towels.
So only guess I have, is that you had your oil changed, & mechanic wiped excess oil that he dribbled onto filler neck or valve cover with rag & that clip was hanging on rag & fell in.

did you have a like a csi flash back or vision while typing that? lol... i kinda did

The Alchemist
05-05-2012, 09:37 AM
Well, it's out now. Like I said, I found it in the little thin layer of sludge in the front of the pan. Just as long as it doesn't go back in, I'm happy.