Pontiac Firebird 1967-2002 - production numbers?? pics
88vert
06-05-2012, 07:51 PM
Can someone tell me what these numbers are??
Im guessing production date, car number and time??
Thanks
hawk584
06-05-2012, 11:38 PM
don't know, what kind of car is it? need more pieces to the puzzle... i see what could be 2 production numbers much like what is found on the 10th Anniversary Firehawks..., but no numbered firehawks were produced in 1998. just a few prototypes and all 10 Ann's were black...maybe it's an item number from a junk yard identifying part, location and year?
88vert
06-06-2012, 05:15 AM
Oh yea. I guess that would help.
It's a nbm 98 trans am. Charcoal interior , manual trans
Nothing to special as far as I know.
I bought it from the original owner he is sending me all the paper work
Like the build sheet window sticker. And couple other pages he has.
He ordered the car back In 98.
I thought about that to part number date and Stuff.
When I asked the owner he said he really never payed attention to it before.
Said he never had any major work done. And as far as I can tell it hasn't. Just basic matenance.
Thanks.
BOBS99SS
06-06-2012, 05:28 AM
Mine has stuff like that inside the front clip but i have never seen something in that spot,keep us posted on what ya find out, could mean nothing, but could be something cool,nothing that will up the value but could be some cool info about the history of the car
88vert
06-06-2012, 05:45 AM
No value. What. ??? Just kidding.
Yea. Would be kinda cool to find out. Even the original owner ask me to keep him informed.
I think once I get paper work it might tell me more.
firemech21
06-06-2012, 06:51 PM
I have never seen that before. My car actually had a tag hidden up inside the dash, with the QC person's name, signature, & date.
JohnnyBs98WS6Rag
06-07-2012, 11:39 AM
Thinking your car might be a WS6, I checked those against the ASC# list for '98s and nothing correlated. Might check the date against the "manufactured on" date on your door decal.
BTW, Dale Earnhardt won the Daytona 500 that month. Average speed was 172.712 MPH, which hasn't been exceeded since.
http://www.daytonainternationalspeedway.com/News/DAYTONA-500-History/DAYTONA-500-Winners.aspx
What's amazing is that the record average winning speed was set by Buddy Baker at 177.602 in 1980!
Back to your car, is it possible this core support was replaced and those are markings from the boneyard when they pulled it from the donor car?
hawk584
06-07-2012, 07:06 PM
pretty sure this past Daytona and the year before they were breaking into the 200's with the tandem draft
edit: my bad, you are talking about individual average time
JohnnyBs98WS6Rag
06-08-2012, 12:12 PM
pretty sure this past Daytona and the year before they were breaking into the 200's with the tandem draft
edit: my bad, you are talking about individual average time
Yeah, what was listed in the link is flag-flag average for the entire race. Yellows screws up the average, which is probably why the record hasn't been beaten for a long time. Its been a long time for a no-yellow race, I remember one at Talledega not too long ago.
88vert
06-10-2012, 08:03 PM
Ok, the original owner sent me the build sheet and window sticker.
He also assured me the car had no work done. When i bought the car the original title was clean and clear, and it also stated two miles on it when the car was purchased
I checked the date on the door, and it states 2/98, but no day date.
That date is also not on t he build sheet. Which i have posted.
All the rpo codes on the door match the build sheet.
So im still stumped, unless someone see`s something on the build sheet i didnt.
I also would wounder why that piece would be replaced, if those are junk yard numbers.
Im gonna try and look around the car in the next few days and see if I can find anything. Like maybe a tag like firemech21 found.
As far as being a ws6, tha twould be nice, but i see no signs of it. I have 16 inch wheels, No hurst shifter, and the sway bars look pretty small.
Thanks all for the help.
Hope i can find out what these numbers are.
88vert
06-10-2012, 08:11 PM
for some reason wont let me post build sheet :(
JohnnyBs98WS6Rag
06-11-2012, 12:00 PM
Well, the build date correlates w/ the date on the core support, so that pretty much confirms the numbers have been there since the car was new.
It may be possible that one of the line inspectors near the end of assembly line flagged something wrong that needed rework and "sent it back" to get fixed before it left the factory. Its possible that the 2 numbers were inspector ID numbers, the one who caught the flaw, and the other who fixed it and the date it was fixed.