Street Racing & Kill Stories - street racing, the element of suprise

just wanted to get a thread going on some sneaky set ups you guys run for street/ grudge racing. of coarse hiding nitrous on the car is a common practice, I'm looking for more subtle things. like maybe having a car look or sound stock but rips up the street. the "element of suprise" is what I'm talking about here. I've heard of people running ceramic wheel bearings to pick up some mph, you know things like this. would like to keep this strictly 1/4 street/ grudge racing. any thoughts?


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In high school i had two 1993 Nissan 300zx's one twin turbo and one NA... both same colors but two totally different monsters...lol. There is a guy here in Maryland that has intake/exhaust/pulley'd lightning and the same color twin turbo lightning... what are you trying to do?

Weight reduction, especially where people can't see it unless they are really looking. Sound deadening from under the carpets, spare tire/jack, tubular k member, no front sway bar, light weight front suspension parts, even stuff that people can see but not think effects weight much like aftermarket front seats or lighter weight body pannels or other parts.

Cutouts. LOL

My low rise winged 4 door, 2 car seats in back cobalt :lol:

About to hptune but traps 106 in current form ;-)

No one ever races the hugger :-(

Stock exhaust and quiet superchargers?

On 3 different vehicles... :devil:

I have a buddy with a 350z he just got that has stock exhaust and everything. You wouldnt know it was twin turboed unless looked under the hood and guessed on the piping. Turbos are hidden behind the engine pretty good and the intercoolers look the radiator. Only if you had a keen eye youd spot it ;)
i kinda wanna do a turbo build like that. Too bad youll see the turbo when the hood is popped!

My low rise winged 4 door, 2 car seats in back cobalt :lol:

About to hptune but traps 106 in current form ;-)

No one ever races the hugger :-(

I know you would beat me but any intrest in running me in the hugger so I can get a gauge of my car??

Well.. My car in itself is a sleeper to the kids my age. Everyone thinks its some POS grandma's car with crappy paint and quarter panel issues. I have on occasions been guilty of removing the wastegate actuator arm off the turbo, so it essentially has no boost for a "test ride".... Just to trick some unsuspecting victims. The electric dump pipe is also nice to have :D. "Dude, your car is whistling.. That can't be good"... "Why did your exhaust just get louder?" said the Mustang owner..

Nix

I vacuum my car out really good, run the tank down, milled out my wheels, took out the bumper supports, replaced the seats with carbon fiber look alikes, and I always take a shit before racing.

I have a stock 6.0 block with stock L92 truck heads and a stock intake..

Down play your shit at any given chance.

I don't have any real "tricks" other than that.. Nothing anything worth mentioning that everyone else doesn't do.

Serious answer: I like to not downplay anything and tell someone about everything that's been touched on my car.

That seems to rile people up the best.

Serious answer: I like to not downplay anything and tell someone about everything that's been touched on my car.

That seems to rile people up the best.

LOL the truth... Half the time they don't believe you anyway.

Mach1s...

o wait....
they're not fast.

There are a bunch of inbread ratards around here that would beg to differ brah!

I vacuum my car out really good, run the tank down, milled out my wheels, took out the bumper supports, replaced the seats with carbon fiber look alikes, and I always take a shit before racing.

Probably the most cruicial thing to do before racing, i also free-ball it to save the weight of underwear.

I vacuum my car out really good, run the tank down, milled out my wheels, took out the bumper supports, replaced the seats with carbon fiber look alikes, and I always take a shit before racing.

LMAO Nothing like having to take a shit and rushing thru traffic.

Ice the intake to make sure your IAT's stay decent. We all know how much heat soak and the pulled timing that goes along with it kills power on LS engines.

just wanted to get a thread going on some sneaky set ups you guys run for street/ grudge racing. of coarse hiding nitrous on the car is a common practice, I'm looking for more subtle things. like maybe having a car look or sound stock but rips up the street. the "element of suprise" is what I'm talking about here. I've heard of people running ceramic wheel bearings to pick up some mph, you know things like this. would like to keep this strictly 1/4 street/ grudge racing. any thoughts?



These types of vehicles are called "Sleepers." :gruffy:

Chrysler used to campaign a car in Michigan called the Mo-town Missile. It was a factory backed 1/4 mile car. They used titanium parts and then painted them black to look like normal steel.

If you race often, for cash, on the street, the best thing you can do (IMO) is to never crush anyone. Always win by a car length or two, don't ever smash someone.

Turbo buicks are probably the greatest sleepers out there. Quiet, not sporty looking to the younger crowd, and bad as fuck with the right set up.

I tend to look at tire a lot. Some guy can talk his car down all night to me, but when he rolls up on ET street radials, or bias plys, I don't give a damn what he says; the tire tells me he's trying to hook some power. My kryptonite always seems to be cars with nittos. I don't ever expect much out of them from a dig, but I've lost more cash to folks that can make it hook on a little tire than anyone else.

I look at stance alot too. If the car is sitting right, I know the guy has probably spent some time dialing in the car trying to get it to hook. I can't really describe what 'right' is, but most of the guys who have been around the hobby for awhile can tell when a car has been worked over in an effort to hook by the way it sits. Don't get me wrong, it's not infallible or anything, but it's something that would throw me if you came up to me wanting to race for cash.

I guess I'm saying that the best way to clip me would be a car that was on nittos or something, with a stance that didn't scream, "I'll hook like a madman when he lays down on the loud pedal."

I put a ladder rack on my truck...

I know you would beat me but any intrest in running me in the hugger so I can get a gauge of my car??


I never turn down a fun run ;-)
U live close to me and a few guys here.

I been workin 6 day weeks so june is rough but we can fig it out soon.


Whatcha got done?

Drive a Ford Festiva, I don't have to downplay anything. Traps 105mph

http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u348/fattydre/DSC00533.jpg

I always open with 'its a v6' so no one is dissapointed in my poor performance.

I never turn down a fun run ;-)
U live close to me and a few guys here.

I been workin 6 day weeks so june is rough but we can fig it out soon.


Whatcha got done?


This is Darren from buffalo wild wings you and Will came out one time. I have si5 cam eBay headers and crappy home made y pipe wit very sharp bends also ls6 intake

Here is my truck and it has been a surprise to many people. What would ya'll think if I pulled up along side of ya?


http://kyhorsepower.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7538&d=1339405432

Stock wheels, very mild cam and quietish exhaust. Its mostly just for fucking with people when I'm driving around. People tend to notice a front mount at meets.

I put a ladder rack on my truck...Oh please pictures!

Chrysler used to campaign a car in Michigan called the Mo-town Missile. It was a factory backed 1/4 mile car. They used titanium parts and then painted them black to look like normal steel.

If you race often, for cash, on the street, the best thing you can do (IMO) is to never crush anyone. Always win by a car length or two, don't ever smash someone.

Turbo buicks are probably the greatest sleepers out there. Quiet, not sporty looking to the younger crowd, and bad as fuck with the right set up.

I tend to look at tire a lot. Some guy can talk his car down all night to me, but when he rolls up on ET street radials, or bias plys, I don't give a damn what he says; the tire tells me he's trying to hook some power. My kryptonite always seems to be cars with nittos. I don't ever expect much out of them from a dig, but I've lost more cash to folks that can make it hook on a little tire than anyone else.

I look at stance alot too. If the car is sitting right, I know the guy has probably spent some time dialing in the car trying to get it to hook. I can't really describe what 'right' is, but most of the guys who have been around the hobby for awhile can tell when a car has been worked over in an effort to hook by the way it sits. Don't get me wrong, it's not infallible or anything, but it's something that would throw me if you came up to me wanting to race for cash.

I guess I'm saying that the best way to clip me would be a car that was on nittos or something, with a stance that didn't scream, "I'll hook like a madman when he lays down on the loud pedal."

so... something like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjDHne15RVw

^ ROFLMAO If the Ferrari guy couldn't respect that kind of hidden monster... he's just a bitch. Thats classic.

i had a primer, beat up 1970 camaro that i actually had a guy in a mustang pull up alongside me and say "you wanna run that piece of shit?" i looked over and said "i'm not sure, i heard those mustangs are pretty fast." under the hood i had a 450hp 383 stroker and a 225 nos shot. needless to say he got a lot of respect for my "piece of shit" REAL quick.

My 71' Vette is a pretty good sleeper.... Its VERY quiet, 95% stock appearing with air conditioning and PS....looks like a mild stock BB under the hood, stock interior with nothing but a shift light... Stock exhaust tips in stock location under the bumpers...

high 12 sec car at best....:biggrinan

Oh please pictures!

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/atomic178/99%20silvy/IMG_3217Custom.jpg

I wanna see it going down the track, ladder and all LOL :cheers:

so... something like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjDHne15RVw

That jeep is nasty.....I bet that ill handling pos is scary as hell!

My car has a bit of a surprise element. With it's smooth idle and complete appearance no one ever suspects how it runs or it's weight. When asked what it has done, I say just a stock ls6 with some bolt-ons....lol Which is actually the truth. They expect a high 11 low 12 car.

Its true... Of course I'm a high 12 second car.. so it's easier to get races.

Chrysler used to campaign a car in Michigan called the Mo-town Missile. It was a factory backed 1/4 mile car. They used titanium parts and then painted them black to look like normal steel.

If you race often, for cash, on the street, the best thing you can do (IMO) is to never crush anyone. Always win by a car length or two, don't ever smash someone.

Turbo buicks are probably the greatest sleepers out there. Quiet, not sporty looking to the younger crowd, and bad as fuck with the right set up.

I tend to look at tire a lot. Some guy can talk his car down all night to me, but when he rolls up on ET street radials, or bias plys, I don't give a damn what he says; the tire tells me he's trying to hook some power. My kryptonite always seems to be cars with nittos. I don't ever expect much out of them from a dig, but I've lost more cash to folks that can make it hook on a little tire than anyone else.

I look at stance alot too. If the car is sitting right, I know the guy has probably spent some time dialing in the car trying to get it to hook. I can't really describe what 'right' is, but most of the guys who have been around the hobby for awhile can tell when a car has been worked over in an effort to hook by the way it sits. Don't get me wrong, it's not infallible or anything, but it's something that would throw me if you came up to me wanting to race for cash.

I guess I'm saying that the best way to clip me would be a car that was on nittos or something, with a stance that didn't scream, "I'll hook like a madman when he lays down on the loud pedal."

I have to respectfully disagree with your assertion that turbo buicks are the best sleepers. Unless of course you're talking about the 97-04 FWD variation. Assuming that you're talking about a Grand National I think that's just crazy to think. Every time I've ever talked to anyone about a GN they place it high up on a pedestal as some sort of super car. Every GN has to run 10's or better or "something's wrong with it".

No one is sleeping on GN's lol.

I have to respectfully disagree with your assertion that turbo buicks are the best sleepers. Unless of course you're talking about the 97-04 FWD variation. Assuming that you're talking about a Grand National I think that's just crazy to think. Every time I've ever talked to anyone about a GN they place it high up on a pedestal as some sort of super car. Every GN has to run 10's or better or "something's wrong with it".

No one is sleeping on GN's lol.

Eh.. Some people have no clue. Easy pickings :D..

Nix

Amazingly, this thing surprises the hell out of people! Sounds like a stock Wagon. Until you step on it.:eek2:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/prdnme/Caddy.jpg

There is also the element of surpise on HOW you race.

Seen a guy line up in the right lane. He was the slower of the 2 cars so the guy in the left lane gave him the hit and 2 cars. THey were both ready when all the sudden the guy in the right lane opens his car door, bends over to act like he hears something then FLOORS IT! The door slams shut and he's gone. The guy in the left lane got off the T-brake and realized what happend and floor it...It was too late.

ahahahaha thats fucking evil

I have to respectfully disagree with your assertion that turbo buicks are the best sleepers. Unless of course you're talking about the 97-04 FWD variation. Assuming that you're talking about a Grand National I think that's just crazy to think. Every time I've ever talked to anyone about a GN they place it high up on a pedestal as some sort of super car. Every GN has to run 10's or better or "something's wrong with it".

No one is sleeping on GN's lol.

It's true.. I saw two GNs at Cordova in the past month and they both ran 13s (one mid and the other low).... the first time they pulled up people stopped talking and just watched silently waiting for a single digit pass.

just wanted to get a thread going on some sneaky set ups you guys run for street/ grudge racing. of coarse hiding nitrous on the car is a common practice, I'm looking for more subtle things. like maybe having a car look or sound stock but rips up the street. the "element of suprise" is what I'm talking about here. I've heard of people running ceramic wheel bearings to pick up some mph, you know things like this. would like to keep this strictly 1/4 street/ grudge racing. any thoughts?


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500 pounds of diet + "put together from spare parts" appearance will do the trick. The average guy on the street can't spot hidden weight reduction unless he/she/it has X-Ray vision.

Well.. My car in itself is a sleeper to the kids my age. Everyone thinks its some POS grandma's car with crappy paint and quarter panel issues. I have on occasions been guilty of removing the wastegate actuator arm off the turbo, so it essentially has no boost for a "test ride".... Just to trick some unsuspecting victims. The electric dump pipe is also nice to have :D. "Dude, your car is whistling.. That can't be good"... "Why did your exhaust just get louder?" said the Mustang owner..

Nix

whoa, dont be sterotyping "kids" I know what a grand national is, I have a 1971 Buick GS455 although you grand national should run 12s if not 11s by the looks of your modifications..thus my car does not compare only achieving 13.2s..

Mach1s...

o wait....
they're not fast.

mach 1 owner no one runs Nitrous ur bluffing
yellow light
yellow light
yellow light
me tap purge on 300 dollar race
GREEN LIGHT AND BYE BYE



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This is Darren from buffalo wild wings you and Will came out one time. I have si5 cam eBay headers and crappy home made y pipe wit very sharp bends also ls6 intake

We all should try to get together again. If you and hugger run I can be a chase with a gopro mounted. Should be fun.

As for the sleeper thing I love my cutout on my car. Between both the turbine and magnaflow muffler my car is pretty damn quiet. I get no action though because of it :(

There is also the element of surpise on HOW you race.

Seen a guy line up in the right lane. He was the slower of the 2 cars so the guy in the left lane gave him the hit and 2 cars. THey were both ready when all the sudden the guy in the right lane opens his car door, bends over to act like he hears something then FLOORS IT! The door slams shut and he's gone. The guy in the left lane got off the T-brake and realized what happend and floor it...It was too late.

oh thats wrong! :lol:

Turbo W-bodies, Braphoons, Thirdgens, G8's, And most trucks.

We all should try to get together again. If you and hugger run I can be a chase with a gopro mounted. Should be fun.

As for the sleeper thing I love my cutout on my car. Between both the turbine and magnaflow muffler my car is pretty damn quiet. I get no action though because of it :(

Sounds good to me. I am off every weekend and most nights I am home by 7

stock exterior 91' z28, complete with TPI badges, 245 rubber on all 4 corners, and stock appearance tucked tailpipes. make the deal, line them up, open the cutout(enjoy the look on other drivers face), collect the money.

I just tell people my 98 z28 is a v6 with an exhaust leak...you'd be suprised at the people that believe me

mach 1 owner no one runs Nitrous ur bluffing
yellow light
yellow light
yellow light
me tap purge on 300 dollar race
GREEN LIGHT AND BYE BYE



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Are you always on fucking crack?

I just tell people my 98 z28 is a v6 with an exhaust leak...you'd be suprised at the people that believe me

I got that all the time befor the cam in my formula. It says firebird on the back so people think it is a v6

GMC Syclone would apply in my book as a sleeper. awd, close to 300hp... in an S10 truck. LOL

whoa, dont be sterotyping "kids" I know what a grand national is, I have a 1971 Buick GS455 although you grand national should run 12s if not 11s by the looks of your modifications..thus my car does not compare only achieving 13.2s..

Sorry man. There are a few out there that do know what is up. You are one of the exceptions obviously. By the time I am done with this car, it will be an 11.3x car. That is my goal at least. I need to get the trans rebuilt, a bigger intercooler, and some tuning work to get it done. I could also pull and port the heads.. But I want to see how far I can go without touching the long block.

Nix

It's an lt1 I don't have to say anything eles

Sorry man. There are a few out there that do know what is up. You are one of the exceptions obviously. By the time I am done with this car, it will be an 11.3x car. That is my goal at least. I need to get the trans rebuilt, a bigger intercooler, and some tuning work to get it done. I could also pull and port the heads.. But I want to see how far I can go without touching the long block.

Nix

My 8 year old would know more about your car than most 20-30 year olds I bet. A GN is his dream car and owners get a kick out of it when we go to cruise nights because he knows whats up when it comes to those cars. Got any pics of yours?

This thread should be called how to build a sleeper lol, i just watched a vid the other day of a 5.3 camaro and even with a turbo it was taking down some pretty healthy cars, pretty sure his main mod was a ton of weight reduction, if your going to be running on the street for cash thats one of the biggest mods, you can make a car really light with out all the safety crap,or just buy a gutted notch backand drop a big ass ls motor in it,i heard that works pretty well lol

My 8 year old would know more about your car than most 20-30 year olds I bet. A GN is his dream car and owners get a kick out of it when we go to cruise nights because he knows whats up when it comes to those cars. Got any pics of yours?

Wow, that is pretty funny. 8 is when I first fell for these cars also. I saw my first one at a local car show, and was hooked. I had no idea at that time that they were fast, just that they were evil looking. Started saving right then. I managed to buy my car a year ago next month when I was 16. Ill see if I can upload some pictures. I just got a new laptop, and none of my pictures are on here yet.

Nix

As for the sleeper thing I love my cutout on my car. Between both the turbine and magnaflow muffler my car is pretty damn quiet. I get no action though because of it :(

Does your wastegate dump into your exhaust? Maybe you could try separating them for some noise.

Does your wastegate dump into your exhaust? Maybe you could try separating them for some noise.

No it dumps straight down but even then my wastegate is closed 90% of the time unless i'm spooled. Driving around I'm really quiet, but once I get on it the wastegate opens and all hell sounds like it's breaking loose. I let off and it's back to quiet plain jane.

Wow, that is pretty funny. 8 is when I first fell for these cars also. I saw my first one at a local car show, and was hooked. I had no idea at that time that they were fast, just that they were evil looking. Started saving right then. I managed to buy my car a year ago next month when I was 16. Ill see if I can upload some pictures. I just got a new laptop, and none of my pictures are on here yet.

Nix

Yeah get some pics up. His birthday is next month and he wants "an old beat up grand national" as he says. He wants to fix it up which means he wants me to fix it up while he sits in it and plays with the dials lol. Might be a good learning experience and appreciation if I do get him one when he's a little older, but can't quite drive. This way when he does drive he'll have that appreciation for the work that went into it for years before hand. I never had a project like that with my dad growing up so it might be really fun.

My cars not fast but it runs better on the street than it should. I just tell people its a 13 second car and go from there. On the street ive taken down cars that claim high 12's. Of course theres alot of kids around here with cars that should be fast that either cant drive or are beat to hell and back. I think that helps quite a bit to, most of the fbodies rolling around here are beat to shit pos z28's that some 16 year old got at a buy here pay here lot.

Yeah get some pics up. His birthday is next month and he wants "an old beat up grand national" as he says. He wants to fix it up which means he wants me to fix it up while he sits in it and plays with the dials lol. Might be a good learning experience and appreciation if I do get him one when he's a little older, but can't quite drive. This way when he does drive he'll have that appreciation for the work that went into it for years before hand. I never had a project like that with my dad growing up so it might be really fun.

That would be a great idea. I think he is already on his way to working on cars and bikes.