Street Racing & Kill Stories - Turbo Civic vs ZX14

Friends car. Rider seems meh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnqmbzLgdrY&feature=player_embedded

It's still a civic....and 80mph rolls suck.....what, do you guys only have 2 gears you can accelerate in?

It's still a civic....and 80mph rolls suck.....what, do you guys only have 2 gears you can accelerate in?

The more I think about it less it matters. I mean 40 roll, 60 roll, 80 roll, its all the same unless its a dig. If you do a 60-160, that's the same as a 40-140 IMO

And your car at the end of the day is just another slow catfish camaro =/

bullshit. That civic makes 350whp tops. A 700whp civic would be so fast it would make a black hole and swallow the galaxy. A 350whp civic should be able to handle a 145-150 trapping bike easy.

nice... better rider should handle that... he sits dayum near straight up...lol
good running civic!

Moving out at 300whp. Nice.

Nice vid, that car is a rocket. I remember watching him run down that GT-R in the 1/4 and was impressed then.

Bike seems to lose ground on every shift. A rider mod would probably make this one hell of a race

The more I think about it less it matters. I mean 40 roll, 60 roll, 80 roll, its all the same unless its a dig. If you do a 60-160, that's the same as a 40-140 IMO

And your car at the end of the day is just another slow catfish camaro =/

wrong. We both know that civic would be either in and out of boost and slow as hell down low, or have his boost a gear set low enough to stay in the throttle --- either way, that 14 would be buses ahead near instantly.

The guy on the 14 had no clue of how to ride/race....

The Civic is a bad little car though....

Even a complete shit rider at 200lbs on a 14 should trap 140-145 minimum and the Civic was obviously pulling some (besides when the 14 took a nap between shifts).

The more I think about it less it matters. I mean 40 roll, 60 roll, 80 roll, its all the same unless its a dig. If you do a 60-160, that's the same as a 40-140 IMO

And your car at the end of the day is just another slow catfish camaro =/

I could see that comment coming from a guy who chose to build a car with wrong wheel drive. If it don't matter then redo the run with the bike.......from a dig


Funny that my slow catfish has you covered......how slow does that mean your :turd: is?



Oh yea I almost forgot


Hondas are poop

I could see that comment coming from a guy who chose to build a car with wrong wheel drive. If it don't matter then redo the run with the bike.......from a dig


Funny that my slow catfish has you covered......how slow does that mean your :turd: is?



Oh yea I almost forgot


Hondas are poop

Yeah my first car I chose to build for alot of reasons, and FWD is not ideal, but it works for me for what I'm doing with it.

Id run anything from a dig. Problem is there is no place to do it except the track. This car already ran a 10.5 on his first pass ever in the car so I dont see what left there is too prove.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLGrJ1VFj_c&feature=relmfu

Perception of speed is all relative :corn:

One fast civic.... People hate because they can't run with a bike like this car did..

One fast civic.... People hate because they can't run with a bike like this car did..

Yeah trapping 146 is no joke lol

One fast civic.... People hate because they can't run with a bike like this car did..

Nope....I hate because they're a heap of shit rattle trap that drives the wrong wheels, extremely unreliable, sound like shit, have had to wait far to long for the track to clean up messes after them, drive like shit. In the end all they can do with that junk is make it accelerate from 60+ -120 or 130 somewhat quickly....if they brake boost, and w/o race gas or meth or e85 they can't even do that.

If someone wants to put THAT much money into an old civic, or any civic for that matter, then whatever
IMO, its dumb to try to build up rice when v8 power is cheaper and more reliable.
But I've had less than perfect power plants in cars to build from....but eventually I cut my losses and went displacement...but to each his own.

Nope....I hate because they're a heap of shit rattle trap that drives the wrong wheels, extremely unreliable,

Dont know what Hondas you've owned. All of mine have ran great unless I did something wrong.

sound like shit

Opinion that I'll agree with for the most part. I dont mind the sound but I'd much rather hear a cammed out V8 revving to 8k.

have had to wait far to long for the track to clean up messes after them

I have had just as many domestics bust rears or trannies as hondas break axles, which usually doesn't leave much to clean up

drive like shit.

I dont think anyone who has driven my car/s come out and not say it was fun to drive.

In the end all they can do with that junk is make it accelerate from 60+ -120 or 130 somewhat quickly

And make good power, get good gas mileage, be cheap on insurance, be easy to work on, be fun to drive, and cheap parts dont do anything.

....if they brake boost

Any turbo car should brake boost. Its stupid not to.

, and w/o race gas or meth or e85 they can't even do that.

That applies to everything...

I'm not say a civic or any honda is the end all, but its certainly not the worst thing in the world to own or play with.

That Civic is fast as all hell!

I'm glad people choose to build all different kinds of cars. This hobby would be pretty freaking boring if we all drove and modded the same kind of car because some guy on the internet had an opinion.

Nope....I hate because they're a heap of shit rattle trap that drives the wrong wheels, extremely unreliable, sound like shit, have had to wait far to long for the track to clean up messes after them, drive like shit. In the end all they can do with that junk is make it accelerate from 60+ -120 or 130 somewhat quickly....if they brake boost, and w/o race gas or meth or e85 they can't even do that.
Socialist.... Things everybody needs the same car. Go buy a TATA u.

im just waiting for a honda owner to post the vd of the civic vs lambo..lol....eaither way bike need driver mod..and to all the honda owner read my sig

I could see that comment coming from a guy who chose to build a car with wrong wheel drive. If it don't matter then redo the run with the bike.......from a dig


Funny that my slow catfish has you covered......how slow does that mean your :turd: is?



Oh yea I almost forgot


Hondas are poopLol. It wouldn't end the same against my brother in law on his '11 zx10r, I would place a bet there if I could. I like a few Hondas, but it's rare to find one worth a damn. Some do exist though, and this one seems to roll out right!

Friends car. Rider seems meh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnqmbzLgdrY&feature=player_embeddedThat sucker moves! I really don't think that should have happened though, just sayin'.

It's still a civic....and 80mph rolls suck.....what, do you guys only have 2 gears you can accelerate in?
Hey Honda has some good shit, read up on their heritage. I agree though, I'm not really into the civic thing.
The more I think about it less it matters. I mean 40 roll, 60 roll, 80 roll, its all the same unless its a dig. If you do a 60-160, that's the same as a 40-140 IMO

And your car at the end of the day is just another slow catfish camaro =/Lol, I like catfish =/. I think the rider matters more than the speeds. But either way, nice vid and rockin' fast Honda no doubt~!

im just waiting for a honda owner to post the vd of the civic vs lambo..lol....eaither way bike need driver mod..and to all the honda owner read my sig

Ok, so you're racist and can't spell. Want a cookie?

im just waiting for a honda owner to post the vd of the civic vs lambo..lol....eaither way bike need driver mod..and to all the honda owner read my sig

People like you are the only reason i'd love to build a honda

People like you are the only reason i'd love to build a honda

LMAO!! I'm right there with ya, and I don't really even like Hondas all that much...

Beans your a wild man...lol. Thats why i built my STi so i can do just that...lol


People like you are the only reason i'd love to build a honda

Teg let's get down man!!!!!! 40 roll. Lock it in.


Turbo civics are really fun, I've owned tons. Idk why the hate. I agree 80 rolls are stupid but it's not my car lol.

No digs or 20 rolls (if need be). Otherwise most of us don't really care...and stuff...

Well in Indy where they race sometimes it's hard to slow to a 20 roll. This is why i told lightning a 40. I'd love a 20 though :)

It's not the right place to race if you can't squeeze out a couple low rolls/digs. Not that I've been in the scene much of late, but you know...

im just waiting for a honda owner to post the vd of the civic vs lambo..lol....eaither way bike need driver mod..and to all the honda owner read my sig

Same car:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g5mjt4BikA&feature=plcp

He lost there, then raced the guy who has a green UG lambo here in Indy and also lost pretty good too. Those cars are in an entire other league.

Socialist.... Things everybody needs the same car. Go buy a TATA u.

Not really. If I were to build a Honda it would be a sataran vue awd with the 3.5 honda v6. That is by far the best engine Honda made.......and these dumbass Honda guys are to busy being eat up with that junkass 4cyl.

LOL i laugh at this. everytime i see this car yes its fast but the whole tx2k12 was just stupid saying you beat the lambo and a 1200hp supra and a 9.20 lsx fox come on.

When did he ever say he beat anyone? He just posted videos of races and put the numbers the owners or friends of owners told him the power it made. It doesnt matter if cars were in kill mode or not. If they lost, they lost. I dont see the argument.

If someone wants to put THAT much money into an old civic, or any civic for that matter, then whatever
IMO, its dumb to try to build up rice when v8 power is cheaper and more reliable.
But I've had less than perfect power plants in cars to build from....but eventually I cut my losses and went displacement...but to each his own.

Although I am not a real big import fan, I can respect what guys are doing with them...the serious guys...not the kids with fart cans on the back of a stock civic with a "cold air intake" blah blah blah.....

The serious import enthusiasts can make big power and run pretty fast with them...maybe not the best from a dig obviously but.... They are definitely getting it done.

As for spending too much money on one? Well... You can blow a fortune on any kind of car to make it run hard...Just because they are doing it with a cheaper car to start with as opposed to a $50k Z06 or something, that makes them "wasting money"?

Ofcourse I've never built an import car but respect the guys that can make them fast. I will say that I have "wasted" a pretty good amount of money on my little "ricer"....It runs pretty good for a little grocery getter. I'll probably get obstrasized here for not having an LS in it...But when I find someone with some "V8 power" that can shut it down, I'll worry then...:eyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0Mx0ynwnus

I just think different strokes for different folks, we all want the same thing...to haul ass and win races..Who cares what platform its on.

Although I am not a real big import fan, I can respect what guys are doing with them...the serious guys...not the kids with fart cans on the back of a stock civic with a "cold air intake" blah blah blah.....

The serious import enthusiasts can make big power and run pretty fast with them...maybe not the best from a dig obviously but.... They are definitely getting it done.

As for spending too much money on one? Well... You can blow a fortune on any kind of car to make it run hard...Just because they are doing it with a cheaper car to start with as opposed to a $50k Z06 or something, that makes them "wasting money"?

Ofcourse I've never built an import car but respect the guys that can make them fast. I will say that I have "wasted" a pretty good amount of money on my little "ricer"....It runs pretty good for a little grocery getter. I'll probably get obstrasized here for not having an LS in it...But when I find someone with some "V8 power" that can shut it down, I'll worry then...:eyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0Mx0ynwnus

I just think different strokes for different folks, we all want the same thing...to haul ass and win races..Who cares what platform its on.

You sir, are crazy lol

When did he ever say he beat anyone? He just posted videos of races and put the numbers the owners or friends of owners told him the power it made. It doesnt matter if cars were in kill mode or not. If they lost, they lost. I dont see the argument.

Like i said the car is fast i live close to indy but do want me to get every thread started about tx2k12 and this car because you will be very upset. Its fast i said it but quit being a gabe nuthugger.

Like i said the car is fast i live close to indy but do want me to get every thread started about tx2k12 and this car because you will be very upset. Its fast i said it but quit being a gabe nuthugger.

Im not being a Gabe nutswinger. His car is fast and built well and all but I would still rather have my Integra. I post all the good race videos the scene out here puts out no matter the cars involved.

Holy shit!! did you pass something at the :27 second mark... it was a black blur...lol


Although I am not a real big import fan, I can respect what guys are doing with them...the serious guys...not the kids with fart cans on the back of a stock civic with a "cold air intake" blah blah blah.....

The serious import enthusiasts can make big power and run pretty fast with them...maybe not the best from a dig obviously but.... They are definitely getting it done.

As for spending too much money on one? Well... You can blow a fortune on any kind of car to make it run hard...Just because they are doing it with a cheaper car to start with as opposed to a $50k Z06 or something, that makes them "wasting money"?

Ofcourse I've never built an import car but respect the guys that can make them fast. I will say that I have "wasted" a pretty good amount of money on my little "ricer"....It runs pretty good for a little grocery getter. I'll probably get obstrasized here for not having an LS in it...But when I find someone with some "V8 power" that can shut it down, I'll worry then...:eyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0Mx0ynwnus

I just think different strokes for different folks, we all want the same thing...to haul ass and win races..Who cares what platform its on.

Jesus....that last vid holy fuck.........but it don't have a ls on it.:gay:/jk

I find it amusing Hio is calling Civics a rattletrap when he owns an F-body - also known for being a rattle trap

Whats up with all the honda dick sucking going on here?

Subaru's are 10x nicer and better than fucking honda gutted shitboxes. I wouldn't mind having an STI but man to drive a civic you are in another league of faggotry and small penis-sssss.

I find it amusing Hio is calling Civics a rattletrap when he owns an F-body - also known for being a rattle trap

His car is a hardtop. Mine is and doesn't rattle at all.

Whats up with all the honda dick sucking going on here?

Subaru's are 10x nicer and better than fucking honda gutted shitboxes. I wouldn't mind having an STI but man to drive a civic you are in another league of faggotry and small penis-sssss.

so you're saying that since you and a select few others think its stupid to build the car that they want to, that we all should listen to you since your so cool? im glad this isnt how life actually works. im glad there are hondas out there that would shit all over most v8 street cars, im glad there are lambos that get destroyed by supras, im glad there are deisel trucks out on the streets that destroy bolt on f-bodies. a fast car,truck,bike, rocket ship, is still fast. who honestly cares if 2 people dont like it? it just show how ignorant, opinionated, and close minded people like you are. i wish i could set on a forum all day and tell people how worthless there build and or car is, itd make me feel more important too.:corn:

so you're saying that since you and a select few others think its stupid to build the car that they want to, that we all should listen to you since your so cool? im glad this isnt how life actually works. im glad there are hondas out there that would shit all over most v8 street cars, im glad there are lambos that get destroyed by supras, im glad there are deisel trucks out on the streets that destroy bolt on f-bodies. a fast car,truck,bike, rocket ship, is still fast. who honestly cares if 2 people dont like it? it just show how ignorant, opinionated, and close minded people like you are. i wish i could set on a forum all day and tell people how worthless there build and or car is, itd make me feel more important too.:corn:

tl dr
But I'm guessing it's something like "wah wah wah acceptance wah wah wah i like dick wah wah wah i have a small penis"

God damnit when did this turn into gay ass Honda dick sucking tech? Almost as bad as the fucking 5.0 dick riders around here. Are the ricer forums that boring or dead that you guys spend all of your time here? Fuck me right?

Are the ricer forums that boring or dead that you guys spend all of your time here?

I know a lot of other forums don't allowed for a street racing section. Some don't want the illegal stuff being posted, others don't want people that join just to post there and never contribute towards the TECH sections. So a lot of people join here to post kills and such. Personally, I don't want to hear about the same old clapped out F-bodies beating 2 valve Mustangs over and over. Variety is the spice of life.


If I knew it wouldn't be a waste of money, I'd start a whole forum dedicated to the stuff this section is about, open to all communities. It would sure be interesting getting everyone in one place. :lol:

I know a lot of other forums don't allowed for a street racing section. Some don't want the illegal stuff being posted, others don't want people that join just to post there and never contribute towards the TECH sections. So a lot of people join here to post kills and such. Personally, I don't want to hear about the same old clapped out F-bodies beating 2 valve Mustangs over and over. Variety is the spice of life.


If I knew it wouldn't be a waste of money, I'd start a whole forum dedicated to the stuff this section is about, open to all communities. It would sure be interesting getting everyone in one place. :lol:

Hmmmm something like a streetfire.net but with a forum section

Streetfire died =/

People like you are the only reason i'd love to build a honda

and at the end of the day you still drive a civic:gay:

Ok, so you're racist and can't spell. Want a cookie?

:eyes: ohh sorry Mr.Wraith,forgot i had to double check what i was typing before posting it on this fourm knowing their is always a :hump: that is checking everyones spelling..gtfo.and eat ur fucking cookie someplace else..

Hmmmm something like a streetfire.net but with a forum section

No basically just a giant Street Racing & Kills only forum. Maybe a few other things as well, but just divide it up kills with videos vs kill with story and mix in chevy ford honda dsm euro etc. people and it would get ugly/funny. :lol:

tl dr
But I'm guessing it's something like "wah wah wah acceptance wah wah wah i like dick wah wah wah i have a small penis"

wow, good one, think that up on your own? or did you have to phone a friend? how old are you? cause i could swear kids stop acting like that after 4th grade, just sayin:sack:

dang i recognize that valve cover.

i think what that civic traps is a little misleading. it is certainly faster. not to mention that was gabe's first pass at a dragstrip. prob his first from a dig lol.

No basically just a giant Street Racing & Kills only forum. Maybe a few other things as well, but just divide it up kills with videos vs kill with story and mix in chevy ford honda dsm euro etc. people and it would get ugly/funny. :lol:
Might as well try it out lol

and at the end of the day you still drive a civic:gay:



:eyes: ohh sorry Mr.Wraith,forgot i had to double check what i was typing before posting it on this fourm knowing their is always a :hump: that is checking everyones spelling..gtfo.and eat ur fucking cookie someplace else..

Oh ok, so a racist internet tough guy who can't spell AND can't take constructive critisism. No one was checking your spelling don't worry. I was just wondering what your point was, and now I see it's on top of your head. Good job, you badass internet warrior you :gruffy:. Not everyone who drives a civic is gay, and not everyone hates civics. You're just insecure...in a few ways. It's ok though, I'm not judgemental. :)

GTFO lol

Niiiiice...Added to Watch Later list

Oh ok, so a racist internet tough guy who can't spell AND can't take constructive critisism. No one was checking your spelling don't worry. I was just wondering what your point was, and now I see it's on top of your head. Good job, you badass internet warrior you :gruffy:. Not everyone who drives a civic is gay, and not everyone hates civics. You're just insecure...in a few ways. It's ok though, I'm not judgemental. :)

im sure you were,since you are the only one that points it out,and i can asssure you in person you wouldint tell me shit..MR .Internet warrior..never said civic owners were gay,the car its self to me is gay,not everyone hates civics? well i dont like them ,therefore i can say whatever the fuck i want.u dont like it ? i dont give a shit..its a forum we all say what we want and feel we all have diffrent opinions.can't take it ? gtfo..insecure? lololol.....not just cause you are and have what you have means we all do..lol...

You'd rather take a Subaru over a civic? At least the civic isn't prone to oil starvation issues and BLOWING UP. Subaru's are all garbage until you build the motor. You shouldn't be required to build a motor just to have a reliable motor.

Not really. If I were to build a Honda it would be a sataran vue awd with the 3.5 honda v6. That is by far the best engine Honda made.......and these dumbass Honda guys are to busy being eat up with that junkass 4cyl.

3.5 J-series is not worth swaping (no room, and no aftermarket support). Its alot cheaper, proven, and efficient to keep with the traditional 4cyl swaps. Plenty of honda guys can be categorized as "dumbasses" for moding four cylinders. But lettuce be cereal here, Who's more of a dumbass? the guy with the rwd weight reducted car that can't get out of the 11s or the guy with the civic running mid 10s on his first pass in a wrong wheel drive car?

How much does that Japanese tin can weigh?

2150 iirc

Nice Kill I personaly hate Mitsubishi but can respect the work people put in them different strokes different folks

3.5 J-series is not worth swaping (no room, and no aftermarket support). Its alot cheaper, proven, and efficient to keep with the traditional 4cyl swaps. Plenty of honda guys can be categorized as "dumbasses" for moding four cylinders. But lettuce be cereal here, Who's more of a dumbass? the guy with the rwd weight reducted car that can't get out of the 11s or the guy with the civic running mid 10s on his first pass in a wrong wheel drive car?

Haha... Don't forget the guy foolin with a stock engine, no power adder and in street trim, in a reliable car that can drive anywhere on 89 octane if need be with the ac on. Also the guy that has good enough suspension to go do track days and not just go straight.

If I wanted to do what this guy did, race a shell of a car I would already be in the mid 10's......with a fucking stock motor, with stock reliability that has lasted 80,000 miles and when I go to the track gets hot lapped 9+ times in a row. This guy will be lucky to get to 5,000 miles in the form he runs it.

There are lots of variables and ways to look at things. The cards dealt when dealing with a honda are not even remotely acceptable to me.

not totally tru homie... oil hungry yes... blow up... only the tuner can cause that... I was well over 100k miles before i built my motor. I don't have to swap in another motor to make it fast or take shyt out... my full weight built STi handles very well thank you. Only hondas that have passed me have been on a trailer or tow truck... or so overly built it not worth it for me to race...lol. I'm no Honda nut buddy but what i think you guys are still missing is that money will make anything fast... who really gives a shyt if its 4,6,8,10, or 12 cylinders... i can drive my STi all year round in any weather. Thats why the V stays in the garage on rainy days and snow. Can't do that in a 500+hp rwd anything... And i get just as good gas mileage as a Civic...lol:eyes:

You'd rather take a Subaru over a civic? At least the civic isn't prone to oil starvation issues and BLOWING UP. Subaru's are all garbage until you build the motor. You shouldn't be required to build a motor just to have a reliable motor.

@ 3:35 into this video you can see how bad Gabe drags my 570rwhp C5 from a 60 roll LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATreqXIpCSQ

Civics are slow and poopy...f body all day got dang it Merka! If you don't agree with me, your a commy...Merka!

@ 3:35 into this video you can see how bad Gabe drags my 570rwhp C5 from a 60 roll LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATreqXIpCSQ

60 rolls are fucking gay
:gay::gay::gay::gay::gay::gay::gay::gay::gay::gay: :gay:

60 rolls are fucking gay
:gay::gay::gay::gay::gay::gay::gay::gay::gay::gay: :gay:

People that cant race from a roll usually say its gay, people that can't race from a dig say that's gay...lol

60 rolls are fucking gay
:gay::gay::gay::gay::gay::gay::gay::gay::gay::gay: :gay:

I run 10.40s@137mph with a 1.4-1.5 60fts. I love drag racing and I drag race weekly. But on saturday nights I do enjoy some good roll racing. Sometimes it is fun to take the launch and traction out of the race and just let horsepower do the talking.

I don't mind slow rolls....but this 60+ mph shit is fucking gay. Just race the dyno and be done at that point.

I run 10.40s@137mph with a 1.4-1.5 60fts. I love drag racing and I drag race weekly. But on saturday nights I do enjoy some good roll racing. Sometimes it is fun to take the launch and traction out of the race and just let horsepower do the talking.

Many props to you. Not many v8 guys would say that much on roll racing.

whats the fun in dyno queens? if you don't know how to drive your car it won't matter what you do... roll, dig... like the sayin goes... spinnin ain't winnin...

I don't mind slow rolls....but this 60+ mph shit is fucking gay. Just race the dyno and be done at that point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdHFkHKffRo&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLCA8BE81E9844C1D2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlLVOIKNr8M&feature=related

This must be how most domestic enthusiast view Honda owners.

And the best for last...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPDDQeAbeQ4&feature=related

Lovin the dance moves at 1:04 and the robin hood shirt...lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlLVOIKNr8M&feature=related

This must be how most domestic enthusiast view Honda owners.

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/8/25f2618146135098c3f788fea9d751af/l.jpg

That is one of the only few FWD cars I like. Goes low 8s which I think is somewhat impressive.

Other than that I think they're wrong wheel drive. I have no quarrels with them, because I'm a true car guy, if thats what people like that is what people like. If they make me happy to watch, I will respect them.

Not trying to get into an argument at all with this, but here goes.

Lightning Teg,

Hugger1975 and I are heading out your way on Aug 5th to run at us41 dragway so if you are interested in coming out shoot me a PM. Might have a few people from the site go as well. I'd rather go to Byron but with my travel schedule and Jay's work Schedule this is the best we could come up with.

Coming to Indy?

Oh boy... this should be good! Willizm you takin the WS6?

im sure you were,since you are the only one that points it out,and i can asssure you in person you wouldint tell me shit..MR .Internet warrior..never said civic owners were gay,the car its self to me is gay,not everyone hates civics? well i dont like them ,therefore i can say whatever the fuck i want.u dont like it ? i dont give a shit..its a forum we all say what we want and feel we all have diffrent opinions.can't take it ? gtfo..insecure? lololol.....not just cause you are and have what you have means we all do..lol...

Lol ok I won't correct your spelling anymore :eyes:. I actually mess up my spelling all the time on here and I think maybe I sounded more serious than I was...I really don't care, most of us don't :).

You actually can't say whatever you want on here, but close lol. I do agree with you though, we have our own opinions and I know you were just bs'ing like we all do on here. I was out of line for pokin' at ya though, and since I dished it out I can take it back. :cheers:

I really don't care for civics all that much personally, but it's hard not to respect something that flat out hauls like that. I doubt the rider was great but it's still impressive for the civic to run like that in my books. It wouldn't be something I'd buy or want to own though.

Coming to Indy?
:nod:
Oh boy... this should be good! Willizm you takin the WS6?
That's the plan. I was thinking about starting a thread to see if any SRK guys would be interested in this section but don't want all the newbs to give me shit due to lack of kill

Not trying to get into an argument at all with this, but here goes.

Lightning Teg,

Hugger1975 and I are heading out your way on Aug 5th to run at us41 dragway so if you are interested in coming out shoot me a PM. Might have a few people from the site go as well. I'd rather go to Byron but with my travel schedule and Jay's work Schedule this is the best we could come up with.

I might have to come out just meet some of the clowns here for once :drive:

Make a event thread in the Midwest section called like SRK meetup or something. If you come to Indy for sure we can do something.

@ 3:35 into this video you can see how bad Gabe drags my 570rwhp C5 from a 60 roll LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATreqXIpCSQ

And you dragged my shit lol. I should have a little more for you in the near future :secret2:

And you dragged my shit lol. I should have a little more for you in the near future :secret2:

lol It happens. Tyler said it was going to be a good race. I didn't know anything about your car. So I agreed to go. If I would have known I would have said something. Freight training someone like that who is expecting a good race is a dick move IMO.

I can't wait to see how your car runs turned up. I'll give you a rematch if you want it.

I might have to come out just meet some of the clowns here for once :drive:

Make a event thread in the Midwest section called like SRK meetup or something. If you come to Indy for sure we can do something.

I made a thread, hopefully the mods find the Merit in me creating the thread in the SRK section. I rarely go in the regional boards but anyone is invited.

lol It happens. Tyler said it was going to be a good race. I didn't know anything about your car. So I agreed to go. If I would have known I would have said something. Freight training someone like that who is expecting a good race is a dick move IMO.

I can't wait to see how your car runs turned up. I'll give you a rematch if you want it.

When I raced you I wanna say it was around 400whp. Its at 465whp now but I'm out of fuel. Im trying to get a pump after this weekend so I can max out my injectors and hopefully make over 500 again.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151708379957837

When I raced you I wanna say it was around 400whp. Its at 465whp now but I'm out of fuel. Im trying to get a pump after this weekend so I can max out my injectors and hopefully make over 500 again.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151708379957837

With over 500hp we should definately be a good run. I believe that was the same day as the IndyRPM dyno day wasn't it? I made 570rwhp and weigh 3350-3400lbs. So we should be really close.

That was the first time I have seen that video. It definately looked worse from your view. I didn't think I pulled quite that hard in only half of 2nd and 3rd gear.

Haha... Don't forget the guy foolin with a stock engine, no power adder and in street trim, in a reliable car that can drive anywhere on 89 octane if need be with the ac on. Also the guy that has good enough suspension to go do track days and not just go straight.

If I wanted to do what this guy did, race a shell of a car I would already be in the mid 10's......with a fucking stock motor, with stock reliability that has lasted 80,000 miles and when I go to the track gets hot lapped 9+ times in a row. This guy will be lucky to get to 5,000 miles in the form he runs it.

There are lots of variables and ways to look at things. The cards dealt when dealing with a honda are not even remotely acceptable to me.

Your car is impressive, never said it isn't. But if you're going to knock a car that out traps your car by 15-20mph and out E/Ts your car by almost a full second (on obviously shitty run), then post 3 paragraphs of excuses then yeah...its self explanatory whats going on here. Bottom line his car is faster than yours whether yours has a damn hot tub in the back, it is still slower. You know what type of train length that car would put on you?

As for your comment on reliability i can tell you've never owned a honda or been around hondas. My F-body has given me more issue's than all 4 of my civics put together. But hey i dont complain about it.

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Keep us posted when you keep up with 1 liter + bikes.

Lol ok I won't correct your spelling anymore :eyes:. I actually mess up my spelling all the time on here and I think maybe I sounded more serious than I was...I really don't care, most of us don't :).

You actually can't say whatever you want on here, but close lol. I do agree with you though, we have our own opinions and I know you were just bs'ing like we all do on here. I was out of line for pokin' at ya though, and since I dished it out I can take it back. :cheers:

I really don't care for civics all that much personally, but it's hard not to respect something that flat out hauls like that. I doubt the rider was great but it's still impressive for the civic to run like that in my books. It wouldn't be something I'd buy or want to own though.

:cheers:

I'm not a fan of hondas but ill give credit where credit is due, if its fast ill respect it because i like racing. If you dont like hondas or even respect the fact that it just ran with a STREET BIKE "never the less a zx14" then why would you enter this thread. I know if I see a thread about somthing I dont like, I wont bother clicking on it.:twak:

Your car is impressive, never said it isn't. But if you're going to knock a car that out traps your car by 15-20mph and out E/Ts your car by almost a full second (on obviously shitty run), then post 3 paragraphs of excuses then yeah...its self explanatory whats going on here. Bottom line his car is faster than yours whether yours has a damn hot tub in the back, it is still slower. You know what type of train length that car would put on you?

As for your comment on reliability i can tell you've never owned a honda or been around hondas. My F-body has given me more issue's than all 4 of my civics put together. But hey i dont complain about it.

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Keep us posted when you keep up with 1 liter + bikes.

We both know he did this on race gas.....so as far as it's street car cred to me that goes right out the window. That 1liter+ bike needed a rider mod bad. If I were serious about getting #'s at the track it's relatively easy to gut your car and make it go straight and get to the mid 10's. The only thing that has went bad on my car in 13yrs and 113,000miles is the drivers window motor. Everything else I have broke has been my own doins (except the motor, a friend done that in). Everything on the car has held up nicely. If I can make my way over to Notch's house I'll shoot a pic of what a 120k honda interior has held up like and you will think Camaro's hold up pretty good after seeing it.

I think you take a bit better care of your care than Notch does. Everyone remember his dirty windshield/dash?

We both know he did this on race gas.....so as far as it's street car cred to me that goes right out the window. That 1liter+ bike needed a rider mod bad. If I were serious about getting #'s at the track it's relatively easy to gut your car and make it go straight and get to the mid 10's. The only thing that has went bad on my car in 13yrs and 113,000miles is the drivers window motor. Everything else I have broke has been my own doins (except the motor, a friend done that in). Everything on the car has held up nicely. If I can make my way over to Notch's house I'll shoot a pic of what a 120k honda interior has held up like and you will think Camaro's hold up pretty good after seeing it.

Excuses excuses excuses.

His car is faster than yours, you do not have room to talk. Please atleast build a car that out traps or out E/T's his first.

That is like me with my stock car discrediting your car.

Not your cup of tea? Cool we know this already, nothing is unless its an LSx car. But bottom line is he's on another level then you.

As for the race gas comment, don't you consider E85 as race gas? :eyes:


Edit:
A real overall car enthusiast can appreciate a fast car, regardless of what it is. You on the other hand are just an ignorant GM monger.

In highschool i fucking hated F-bodys, look what i own now.

We both know he did this on race gas.....so as far as it's street car cred to me that goes right out the window. That 1liter+ bike needed a rider mod bad. If I were serious about getting #'s at the track it's relatively easy to gut your car and make it go straight and get to the mid 10's. The only thing that has went bad on my car in 13yrs and 113,000miles is the drivers window motor. Everything else I have broke has been my own doins (except the motor, a friend done that in). Everything on the car has held up nicely. If I can make my way over to Notch's house I'll shoot a pic of what a 120k honda interior has held up like and you will think Camaro's hold up pretty good after seeing it.

Pretty much every car out here runs E85, including the vettes, trans ams, and camaros. So what the hell does it matter?

Pretty much every car out here runs E85, including the vettes, trans ams, and camaros. So what the hell does it matter?

But its a racecar if runs e85 cs he needs excusses to say why his engine swapped car isn't faster.

We both know he did this on race gas.....so as far as it's street car cred to me that goes right out the window. That 1liter+ bike needed a rider mod bad. If I were serious about getting #'s at the track it's relatively easy to gut your car and make it go straight and get to the mid 10's.The only thing that has went bad on my car in 13yrs and 113,000miles is the drivers window motor. Everything else I have broke has been my own doins (except the motor, a friend done that in). Everything on the car has held up nicely. If I can make my way over to Notch's house I'll shoot a pic of what a 120k honda interior has held up like and you will think Camaro's hold up pretty good after seeing it.

it doesn't matter who "done" it in, it still went. i have a prelude sitting out in my driveway with 270,000 miles on the odometer and its only problem is it drips a lil oil.there has never been a window motor needed replaced, transmission shifts like it did when it was new in 93 and id put money on it out cornering your catfish. no its not fast, that's why i have the bird. but its every bit as comfortable as my t/a and gets me 40mpg everyday, and im not afraid to drive it in the snow. how many fbodies are there that are running around with a quarter of a million miles on them? this isn't a pissing match, this is someone liking a car that you and a few other close minded people hate, and you guys acting like if you say its not cool the world shouldn't like it. get over it, and get over yourselves. this is why i refuse to hang out with the lsx people anymore, you'd be surprised how many cool people you meet when you stop thinking (insert car brand here) is the be all end all of the car world.:cheers:

it doesn't matter who "done" it in, it still went. i have a prelude sitting out in my driveway with 270,000 miles on the odometer and its only problem is it drips a lil oil.there has never been a window motor needed replaced, transmission shifts like it did when it was new in 93 and id put money on it out cornering your catfish. no its not fast, that's why i have the bird. but its every bit as comfortable as my t/a and gets me 40mpg everyday, and im not afraid to drive it in the snow. how many fbodies are there that are running around with a quarter of a million miles on them? this isn't a pissing match, this is someone liking a car that you and a few other close minded people hate, and you guys acting like if you say its not cool the world shouldn't like it. get over it, and get over yourselves. this is why i refuse to hang out with the lsx people anymore, you'd be surprised how many cool people you meet when you stop thinking (insert car brand here) is the be all end all of the car world.:cheers:

Truth be told

We both know he did this on race gas.....so as far as it's street car cred to me that goes right out the window. That 1liter+ bike needed a rider mod bad. If I were serious about getting #'s at the track it's relatively easy to gut your car and make it go straight and get to the mid 10's. The only thing that has went bad on my car in 13yrs and 113,000miles is the drivers window motor. Everything else I have broke has been my own doins (except the motor, a friend done that in). Everything on the car has held up nicely. If I can make my way over to Notch's house I'll shoot a pic of what a 120k honda interior has held up like and you will think Camaro's hold up pretty good after seeing it.

When did E85 become race gas?

fast is fast to me...and that is a fast honda...

i catch hell all the time from my die hard ford buddies for doing an LSX swap...

When did E85 become race gas?

about the same time that they decided its considered a win even if you lose because you need the "driver mod"

Flexfuel vehicles = racecarz!
E10 is for Low timing slushboxz!

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We both know he did this on race gas.....so as far as it's street car cred to me that goes right out the window. That 1liter+ bike needed a rider mod bad. If I were serious about getting #'s at the track it's relatively easy to gut your car and make it go straight and get to the mid 10's. The only thing that has went bad on my car in 13yrs and 113,000miles is the drivers window motor. Everything else I have broke has been my own doins (except the motor, a friend done that in). Everything on the car has held up nicely. If I can make my way over to Notch's house I'll shoot a pic of what a 120k honda interior has held up like and you will think Camaro's hold up pretty good after seeing it.

Oh and go post up that pic, its a moot argument but whatever. Here's the interior on my old civic with 143k miles.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8166/7601156346_b9221eaaac_z.jpg
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/6410_1082464234082_4999038_n.jpg
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/6410_1082464194081_4150902_n.jpg

Sadly that interior is in better shape than my formula with 99k miles.

sweet freshener on the rear view brah

dat coconut car smell

Car was mint, i had the original owners manual from 99 the dealer who sold it to the original owner, i was the 2nd owner. Sucks i sold it, i miss it at times. That car had not ONE issue, 143k and drivin like it aint no thang.


edit hey 2ssarme how come you say your from somalia but the people in all your vids are speaking spanish?

I'd build a Honda if it wouldn't immediately be stolen by some puerto ricans from Hartford.
Seriously though... my neighbor has built a few Hondas and they're stolen from outside his house within days after they're done. They follow us white boys into the suburbs from the City.

Arriba Arriba.

Arriba Arriba.
estas tremendo amigo

People that cant race from a roll usually say its gay, people that can't race from a dig say that's gay...lol

Cant race from a roll? All you're doing when you're "racing" from a roll is stomping on the gas. Racing from a dig requires a little more.

Arriba Arriba.

Tremendo cuento asere

Your car is impressive, never said it isn't. But if you're going to knock a car that out traps your car by 15-20mph and out E/Ts your car by almost a full second (on obviously shitty run), then post 3 paragraphs of excuses then yeah...its self explanatory whats going on here. Bottom line his car is faster than yours whether yours has a damn hot tub in the back, it is still slower. You know what type of train length that car would put on you?

As for your comment on reliability i can tell you've never owned a honda or been around hondas. My F-body has given me more issue's than all 4 of my civics put together. But hey i dont complain about it.

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Keep us posted when you keep up with 1 liter + bikes.

Oh, i see. Are you here to educate us on how a turbo works again:eyes: Maybe you would like to tell us how your V6 has the same potentail as a V8? El Oh El

Oh, i see. Are you here to educate us on how a turbo works again:eyes: Maybe you would like to tell us how your V6 has the same potentail as a V8? El Oh El

In all seriousness there are guys pushing stock longblock J32 (that's a Honda v6) motors to almost 800whp without anything breaking.

Potential is pretty good I'd say.

I was refering to his firebird, not a honda lol.

I was refering to his firebird, not a honda lol.

You mad your h/c setup probably runs like my car with full bolt ons?

Nope....I hate because they're a heap of shit rattle trap that drives the wrong wheels, extremely unreliable, sound like shit, have had to wait far to long for the track to clean up messes after them, drive like shit. In the end all they can do with that junk is make it accelerate from 60+ -120 or 130 somewhat quickly....if they brake boost, and w/o race gas or meth or e85 they can't even do that.

You couldnt be more ignorant if you tried.....:eyes:

You mad your h/c setup probably runs like my car with full bolt ons?

I would try and change the subject to. Sure bitched out pretty fast when no one bought your bullshit.

I run 10.40s@137mph with a 1.4-1.5 60fts. I love drag racing and I drag race weekly. But on saturday nights I do enjoy some good roll racing. Sometimes it is fun to take the launch and traction out of the race and just let horsepower do the talking.

Agree with this guy :cheers:

i would try and change the subject to. Sure bitched out pretty fast when no one bought your bullshit.


yeah d00d i bitched out on the internet, great statement.

Cant race from a roll? All you're doing when you're "racing" from a roll is stomping on the gas. Racing from a dig requires a little more.

Let me rephrase that because you don't get it. If your cars too slow to roll, the odds of ypu saying its gay are very high.

Honda's are junk period....I don't give a fuck if you guys like it or not. It takes a bunch of band aids to keep that shit alive and they still don't last. I could give a shit less is one is faster than me or not. You guys act like I could'nt make mine faster if I wanted. I've had a ls7 in my shop for a year now but I enjoy tinkering with the ls6.....and it but hurts the shit out of some of you that it has went 11.1 @ 130......Do you really think it can't roll race with 130mph trap? Is it the fastest ever...nope......but sure the fuck is gonna ride and drive a ton better than a heap of shit honda.

You couldnt be more ignorant if you tried.....:eyes:

Oh yea I can......the problem is you don't like the truth....now go put a front bumper cover on your car.

it always baffles me how people get so worked up over someone elses choice in cars....as if the person building the honda sneaks in your house at night and steals the money and credit cards out of your wallet to fund his build

get real dude.....


i think the LS series motors are probably one of the best motor platform's you could modify..thats saying alot since im a long time ford fanatic and im now dong a turbo LSX swap in my Foxbody...with that being said, we all hear people says fords are shit, GM is shit, all imports are shit.......to be honest, not a single one is the "holy grail" of automotive quality and technology and all have had a ton of problems in production and quality...but to call a Honda a piece of shit and you driving a GM or a ford is like the pot calling the kettle black....wether you like it or not honda has had a far more successful reliability and resale rating than any american car manufacture...not to mention more hondas, nissans and toyota's are produced in the US than american branded cars....at least the japanese auto makers are bringing jobs to the US, unlike GM, ford and chrysler..they give canadians and mexicans most of the jobs..

Honda's are junk period....I don't give a fuck if you guys like it or not. It takes a bunch of band aids to keep that shit alive and they still don't last. I could give a shit less is one is faster than me or not. You guys act like I could'nt make mine faster if I wanted. I've had a ls7 in my shop for a year now but I enjoy tinkering with the ls6.....and it but hurts the shit out of some of you that it has went 11.1 @ 130......Do you really think it can't roll race with 130mph trap? Is it the fastest ever...nope......but sure the fuck is gonna ride and drive a ton better than a heap of shit honda.

No it doesn't lol no ones butt hurt that you havnt broke 10s or that you haven't been able to break 140 mph =)

I'm not butt hurt at all. In case you ain't noticed I'm just fuckin with a stock longblock with 80k on it.....let me know if your honda the way you have it runs to 20k.....I bet it won't make it to 10k. Your probally one of those fags that run around with your bumper off and holes drill in you rearend.

I'm not butt hurt at all. In case you ain't noticed I'm just fuckin with a stock longblock with 80k on it.....let me know if your honda the way you have it runs to 20k.....I bet it won't make it to 10k. Your probally one of those fags that run around with your bumper off and holes drill in you rearend.

Lol I didnt say you were butt hurt. Does it count if I change things in that 20k? Because next month comes some big changes and i dont want to reset your little counter when I swap cams or some shit. Stock body civic, full interior, all bumpers in tact, no diffusers, no fart can.

Used to be a really fast Civic guy in Texas years ago I think-Cheesefrog or something like that. Full interior car,looked stock-even stock rims. Went 10s at 130 plus years ago which was insane...

I'm not butt hurt at all. In case you ain't noticed I'm just fuckin with a stock longblock with 80k on it.....let me know if your honda the way you have it runs to 20k.....I bet it won't make it to 10k. Your probally one of those fags that run around with your bumper off and holes drill in you rearend.

The motor I had in my car last year was a stock block/stock head ls-vtec and had 180k on it when I installed it in early 07'. That motor never blew and was pulled and rebuilt with forged internals. From the time I boosted it in late 07' it ran 11.9-11.6 at 118+/- on MT et streets 225-50-15. It made 310hp and 260tq on 10psi and when I pulled it out I put 60k on the car (DD).

This crap about Honda's not lasting long is absolutely absurd and couldn't be farther from the truth. ANY car will blow up with some jackass driving it and not maintaining the car properly. I don't care what brand it is, if you don't take care of it or drive like you have no sense, your just riding on borrowed time.

And my car weighs 2500 lbs with me in it. It has leather interior and no significant weight reduction.

Cheese frogs car was turbo and nitrous as well

Cheese frogs car was turbo and nitrous as well

Very similar lol

cheesefrog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwGlVBnbWL0

It's A badass

This crap about Honda's not lasting long is absolutely absurd and couldn't be farther from the truth. ANY car will blow up with some jackass driving it and not maintaining the car properly. I don't care what brand it is, if you don't take care of it or drive like you have no sense, your just riding on borrowed time.

Yeah thats exactly what i don't get about this guy. Its obvious he's never even owned a civic. That is like me saying SRT4's are shit and don't stay together for 10k but ive never owned an SRT4, how credible is my opinion? lol.

it always baffles me how people get so worked up over someone elses choice in cars....as if the person building the honda sneaks in your house at night and steals the money and credit cards out of your wallet to fund his build

get real dude.....


i think the LS series motors are probably one of the best motor platform's you could modify..thats saying alot since im a long time ford fanatic and im now dong a turbo LSX swap in my Foxbody...with that being said, we all hear people says fords are shit, GM is shit, all imports are shit.......to be honest, not a single one is the "holy grail" of automotive quality and technology and all have had a ton of problems in production and quality...but to call a Honda a piece of shit and you driving a GM or a ford is like the pot calling the kettle black....wether you like it or not honda has had a far more successful reliability and resale rating than any american car manufacture...not to mention more hondas, nissans and toyota's are produced in the US than american branded cars....at least the japanese auto makers are bringing jobs to the US, unlike GM, ford and chrysler..they give canadians and mexicans most of the jobs..

Honda is by far one of the best car company's out there, as far as reliability, gas mileage, and resale value goes. My parents just got rid of their Ford cars for new Honda's. Not saying that the American cars didn't last they did but they were falling apart years ago.

I'm not butt hurt at all. In case you ain't noticed I'm just fuckin with a stock longblock with 80k on it.....let me know if your honda the way you have it runs to 20k.....I bet it won't make it to 10k. Your probally one of those fags that run around with your bumper off and holes drill in you rearend.

You do notice you're the ONLY person on here stating that Honda's are unreliable right?


Besides that i already said this, your car is fast and really impressive for what it is. But at the end of the day sadly for you the civic is still out there racing cars and bikes out of YOUR league.

Again, that is like me attempting to discredit your car when all i have is a stockish F-body. I don't have room to talk. So IMO you should just shut up.

His car also was also an LS (non vtec). FTW lol

[QUOTE=adamantium;16534890]how credible is my opinion? lol.
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His car also was also an LS (non vtec). FTW lol

lol ive owned 3 cars with LS's they take a beating and never skip a beat. But thats with all honda motors. My friends H2B had more engine sludge than any motor ive seen in my life, he ran some marvel mystery oil through it a couple times and beat the shit out of it everyday, never had any issues. When he sold the car to my other friend who know has the piston/rod k on boost that guy through it on 75shot while it was on the all motor tune never had any issue and the all motor tune had a shit load of timing, i know. haha.

Teg, I know......

lol ive owned 3 cars with LS's they take a beating and never skip a beat. But thats with all honda motors. My friends H2B had more engine sludge than any motor ive seen in my life, he ran some marvel mystery oil through it a couple times and beat the shit out of it everyday, never had any issues. When he sold the car to my other friend who know has the piston/rod k on boost that guy through it on 75shot while it was on the all motor tune never had any issue and the all motor tune had a shit load of timing, i know. haha.

Iv had 3 problems with my Honda - 1) I pushed it too far 2 years ago with too much timing, and too much boost. 2) a flood sunk my shit 3) the block wasn't decked after the sleeves were pressed in. Honda motors are legit when done right.

Iv had 3 problems with my Honda - 1) I pushed it too far 2 years ago with too much timing, and too much boost. 2) a flood sunk my shit 3) the block wasn't decked after the sleeves were pressed in. Honda motors are legit when done right.

Yeah i had a friend of mine have that first issue you had with a beater b16 he got, too much timing and too much boost. Broke a ringland. IMO the tuner is just too timing happy.

Teg, I know......

You posted that before I refreshed :emb:

Yeah i had a friend of mine have that first issue you had with a beater b16 he got, too much timing and too much boost. Broke a ringland. IMO the tuner is just too timing happy.

I tune on Crome, no avs bullshit LOL trying for singles will do that.

I tune on Crome, no avs bullshit LOL trying for singles will do that.

Free based crome? Or crome pro? Well the tuner was using hondata since my buddy has an s300. I think cromes shit though we used it to tune the h2b i got sort of friendly with the program but some of its features are bugged, i like neptune or hondata.

Free based crome? Or crome pro? Well the tuner was using hondata since my buddy has an s300. I think cromes shit though we used it to tune the h2b i got sort of friendly with the program but some of its features are bugged, i like neptune or hondata.

Pro - crome is pretty decent. I can tune on ectune and crome pro. Hondatas too expensive.

Let me rephrase that because you don't get it. If your cars too slow to roll, the odds of ypu saying its gay are very high.

Whats considered "too slow to roll"?

Ectune ftw. My friend created that program lol

Roll races...fail.

Whats considered "too slow to roll"?

Can you pull hard up top? I'll say that if you trap <130 and are all launch, your too slow for it. But roll racing isn't my cup of tea I think, its an unfair advantage against n/a v8s that cry about it...its like a female bitching because you left the toilet seat up...in my opinion.

Can you pull hard up top? I'll say that if you trap <130 and are all launch, your too slow for it. But roll racing isn't my cup of tea I think, its an unfair advantage against n/a v8s that cry about it...its like a female bitching because you left the toilet seat up...in my opinion.

Rolls are fucking gay period. They dont even have any kind of track to guage the shit. We rwd n/a v8 guys dont cry when awd wants to do dig runs. They are the one with full advantage. we run them from a dig. Only fwd guys cry for their roll race that doesnt matter. Go tell your local track you wana cross the staging lanes at 60 to see how much you improved your roll speed lmao. Rolls are a lame excuse for a car that cant 60ft. Botom line. This sport of making your shit go fast straight originated from dead stop for a reason. Dead stop also eliminates a ricer from learning how to drive.

Pro - crome is pretty decent. I can tune on ectune and crome pro. Hondatas too expensive.

Yeah crome pro is alot better than the free based, try out neptune. Neptune has a shit load of cool stuff and its still a chip based tuning software. No one down here touches Ectune for some reason, ive heard good things though. Give neptune a try!

First off, whoever is badmouthing Honda should read into their heritage a little more, like I said before. I don't want one, but I can't knock 'em.
it always baffles me how people get so worked up over someone elses choice in cars....as if the person building the honda sneaks in your house at night and steals the money and credit cards out of your wallet to fund his build

get real dude.....


i think the LS series motors are probably one of the best motor platform's you could modify..thats saying alot since im a long time ford fanatic and im now dong a turbo LSX swap in my Foxbody...with that being said, we all hear people says fords are shit, GM is shit, all imports are shit.......to be honest, not a single one is the "holy grail" of automotive quality and technology and all have had a ton of problems in production and quality...but to call a Honda a piece of shit and you driving a GM or a ford is like the pot calling the kettle black....wether you like it or not honda has had a far more successful reliability and resale rating than any american car manufacture...not to mention more hondas, nissans and toyota's are produced in the US than american branded cars....at least the japanese auto makers are bringing jobs to the US, unlike GM, ford and chrysler..they give canadians and mexicans most of the jobs..
Ok here's where I step in and say "go fuck yourself" brah! Comparing us to Mexicans is like me comparing you to Brazilians. :engarde:

Rolls are fucking gay period. They dont even have any kind of track to guage the shit. We rwd n/a v8 guys dont cry when awd wants to do dig runs. They are the one with full advantage. we run them from a dig. Only fwd guys cry for their roll race that doesnt matter. Go tell your local track you wana cross the staging lanes at 60 to see how much you improved your roll speed lmao. Rolls are a lame excuse for a car that cant 60ft. Botom line. This sport of making your shit go fast straight originated from dead stop for a reason. Dead stop also eliminates a ricer from learning how to drive.

Like iv said...roll racing isn't my deal, my wrong wheel drive rice box runs from a dig...I hate repeating my point...

Yeah crome pro is alot better than the free based, try out neptune. Neptune has a shit load of cool stuff and its still a chip based tuning software. No one down here touches Ectune for some reason, ive heard good things though. Give neptune a try!

Neptune is good, I have the program for it...probably won't use it though...unless someone else pays me for a tune LOL $50 for 2 step? Suuure!

Like iv said...roll racing isn't my deal, my wrong wheel drive rice box runs from a dig...I hate repeating my point...Well get used to it dude~!

Well get used to it dude~!

Oh well lol

at least we know who to blame when we Chevy Cruze steering wheels falling off while driving.....those damn kanuck's :bigun2:

i kid .....i kid......


First off, whoever is badmouthing Honda should read into their heritage a little more, like I said before. I don't want one, but I can't knock 'em.

Ok here's where I step in and say "go fuck yourself" brah! Comparing us to Mexicans is like me comparing you to Brazilians. :engarde:

If it weren't for us you'd be looking into Honda ;). You need somewhere to build those fuckers lol. :jest:

If it weren't for us you'd be looking into Honda ;). You need somewhere to build those fuckers lol. :jest:

Seriously dude, I hate Canada so much.

There are all scum

Shouldn't you be programming or something? Or was it accounting? Oh well same dif...

I think you meant "they're" all scum...lol.

Seriously dude, I hate Canada so much.

There are all scum

Don't they make your car?

Yes they do. But he has the truck now and think that's different. lol.

All I can say is this :P

http://www.keepbusy.net/play.php?id=bird-flies-on-stage-during-concert

I guess haters will hate....but hating doesnt make you any faster.

Honda junk and unreliable? lmafo are you fucking serious? Comparing honda and GM as far as build quailty and longetivity is much like apples to oranges. As far as a cheap performance plateform GM has quite a few but in terms of your everyday car they suck period. GM has to have one of worst resale value of any manufacturer. Just look at a c6 z06. What they did originally start off as 70-80k? Now you can find them a few years later with under 20k miles on them for 40k...

Honda junk and unreliable? lmafo are you fucking serious? Comparing honda and GM as far as build quailty and longetivity is much like apples to oranges. As far as a cheap performance plateform GM has quite a few but in terms of your everyday car they suck period. GM has to have one of worst resale value of any manufacturer. Just look at a c6 z06. What they did originally start off as 70-80k? Now you can find them a few years later with under 20k miles on them for 40k...


Not sure about that my car on KBB is worth 10k that being said its 10 years old and has 99k. Not bad, IMO. But GM's are some tough cars engine wise, i dont agree as much about their interior quality though. These opinions are about my f-body though, not talking for ALL GM vehicles, btw.

Not sure about that my car on KBB is worth 10k that being said its 10 years old and has 99k. Not bad, IMO. But GM's are some tough cars engine wise, i dont agree as much about their interior quality though. These opinions are about my f-body though, not talking for ALL GM vehicles, btw.
Your value has went up a lot because Pontiac is gone.

Now that Chevrolet brought out the 5th gen, look up the price on a comparable 4th gen Camaro to a 4th gen Trans Am. I guarantee the Trans Am will be more expensive because it is more "rare".

Interior quality on Fbodies is junk

Your value has went up a lot because Pontiac is gone.

Now that Chevrolet brought out the 5th gen, look up the price on a comparable 4th gen Camaro to a 4th gen Trans Am. I guarantee the Trans Am will be more expensive because it is more "rare".

Interior quality on Fbodies is junk

Not sure i was actually looking for a camaro over a firebird. But yeah you're right, i put in all the exact same stats of my car but in a camaro and its worth 2k less. I agree the interior quality is shit, all honesty not to offend anyone but IMO the interior quality of my civic held up 100x better than my formula, that being said my civic was 3 years older and had 50k miles more.

the pontiacs were always more valuable for some reason..with regard to 4th gen f cars.

Yup. And I like the interior quality on Trans Ams, I wouldn't change a thing...seats are great! :). If you changed it it wouldn't be right, imo.

Rolls are fucking gay period. They dont even have any kind of track to guage the shit. We rwd n/a v8 guys dont cry when awd wants to do dig runs. They are the one with full advantage. we run them from a dig. Only fwd guys cry for their roll race that doesnt matter. Go tell your local track you wana cross the staging lanes at 60 to see how much you improved your roll speed lmao. Rolls are a lame excuse for a car that cant 60ft. Botom line. This sport of making your shit go fast straight originated from dead stop for a reason. Dead stop also eliminates a ricer from learning how to drive.

Better go tell HioSSilver that. After stopsign beat that Camaro at the track Hio's argument was to bring up what happened when stopsign raced the same car from a roll. In typical fashion he just changes what is acceptable to fit his argument at the time.

Your value has went up a lot because Pontiac is gone.

Now that Chevrolet brought out the 5th gen, look up the price on a comparable 4th gen Camaro to a 4th gen Trans Am. I guarantee the Trans Am will be more expensive because it is more "rare".

Interior quality on Fbodies is junk
The interior in my car still looks new. If it holds up as well in the next 13yrs as it did the first 13 I will be highly impressed.
Better go tell HioSSilver that. After stopsign beat that Camaro at the track Hio's argument was to bring up what happened when stopsign raced the same car from a roll. In typical fashion he just changes what is acceptable to fit his argument at the time.
Nope not what I said. I said what happened on the street when they ran from a dig. Stoppy got his ass handed to him. All stoppy did at the track was out tire him. After all this is the street racing section is it not?

Nope not what I said. I said what happened on the street when they ran from a dig. Stoppy got his ass handed to him. All stoppy did at the track was out tire him. After all this is the street racing section is it not?

So your comment was regarding the race where the Camaro got the hit?

Either way, you've posted up races that you have been in that were from a roll, so they must not be all that bad.

The camaro did'nt take the hit. They had a street race that stoppy posted. Go look it up. He got walked so bad he thought Sepno had a cam.

I already had. It wasn't a cheater hit or anything, but it didn't sound like they left at the same time according to what stopsign wrote.

I see you posted it up and then took it down.....you should've left it up. When someone gets a bumper I would'nt say he took the hit. Looked like to me the Camaro and he took off about the same, just the Camaro started pulling him from the beginning.

The hit is huge in a dig race, even if it's just a bumper. Also, when he says "...he took off. I followed..." how does that look like they left at the same time and the Camaro started pulling right away?

The the light turned green and he took off. I followed (he only had like a nose on me) but I knew it wasn't going to be good with these God awful tires!!!! He hit 2nd before me so I'm guessing he had gears. Anyways I hit 2nd and went sideways all through it :eyes: He pulled a solid car on me and kept pulling.
Well I wanted 2nds and he did too. :D We lined up close to 40mph, me in 2nd and him in IDK. I honked it off and on the 3rd we both left at the same time, it was a perfect start. We were pretty close with him inching ahead. I hit 3rd and again went sideways :ripped: while he pulled half a car. He shifted and I pulled back some but after he went into 4th (before me :suspiciou ) he did start a decent pull. At 110mph I would say he had a car on me. If I had traction I would say it would have been half a car.

Either way, that's all besides the point. If you say your comment was directed that the dig race then it was directed towards the dig race.

So your comment was regarding the race where the Camaro got the hit?

Either way, you've posted up races that you have been in that were from a roll, so they must not be all that bad.

Sometimes you have to play with the cards that are dealt if it's some imprmptu highway race. I will pretty much refuse a race set-up from a 60. If that is all your car is good for then you have junk and should take it home and fix it. I don't mind slow rolls but this 60 and 80mph shit is stupid. That being said my car is no dig car either, but I would rather go from a dig as long as all is on a comparable tire.

If I remember right when sepno checked in on that thread he said he was having all kinds of traction issues too.

You all do realize not everyone is interested in having a drag car. We have a few big power cars here that will only race from rolls simply because they can't hook. Not everyone is interested in running at the track. Hiho is apparently still a fucking idiot and I want to buy this civic, make a compilation of me beating fast LSx cars and then post it on here and laugh at everyone crying.

When someone gets a bumper I would'nt say he took the hit
From the post it sounded like a bumper and forward momentum. That is everything in a race!

You all do realize not everyone is interested in having a drag car. We have a few big power cars here that will only race from rolls simply because they can't hook. Not everyone is interested in running at the track. Hiho is apparently still a fucking idiot and I want to buy this civic, make a compilation of me beating fast LSx cars and then post it on here and laugh at everyone crying.
Go ahead. You'll spend more time and money fixing/working on it when it breaks constantly then it's worth.
From the post it sounded like a bumper and forward momentum. That is everything in a race!

Well I guess stoppy should've been on the ball a little better. They were both spinning so that little bit would'nt matter much anyway.

Go ahead. You'll spend more time and money fixing/working on it when it breaks constantly then it's worth.


Well I guess stoppy should've been on the ball a little better. They were both spinning so that little bit would'nt matter much anyway.

LOL your a funny guy, cognitive thought isnt your strong suite but at least your funny =)

Go ahead. You'll spend more time and money fixing/working on it when it breaks constantly then it's worth.


Well I guess stoppy should've been on the ball a little better. They were both spinning so that little bit would'nt matter much anyway.


Dairy farm!:corn:

In terms of roll racing vs dig racing. Does anyone else feel more "secure" racing from a roll on the highway vs from a dig on a random secluded street? Especially with higher hp cars. An 11 second car on the street is damn fast from a dig. I feel a lot safer doing 40-140 mph rolls then meeting up at a local spot and performing dig runs on some random streets that are secluded or free of traffic with 45 mph signs posted. Just me I guess.

In terms of roll racing vs dig racing. Does anyone else feel more "secure" racing from a roll on the highway vs from a dig on a random secluded street? Especially with higher hp cars. An 11 second car on the street is damn fast from a dig. I feel a lot safer doing 40-140 mph rolls then meeting up at a local spot and performing dig runs on some random streets that are secluded or free of traffic with 45 mph signs posted. Just me I guess.

Alot of the reasons why guys here prefer dig runs is that an fbody can be a beast from a dig with a stalled auto, 9", a few bolt on suspension parts and a sticky radial. I agree though, once you start getting higher in the hp the problem is that you become more traction limited. I have to baby the throttle a ton in my TA from a low roll with MT ET's on the back but my 135i that is pushing maybe around 330-340whp is easy to launch, grab traction and manage without giving much thought to managing the throttle.

Another thing is that depending on your drivetrain, it could really be devistating taking a car from a dig that is making twice the power it did at stock. For example, a gen5 camaro with a supercharger would be asking for trouble on a stock IRS when going from a dig.

I enjoy roll races for two reasons.

One, it's much easier to set up and there's alot less of a headache since they can be done very quickly. With a dig where both cars need a burnout and someone always wants to go off a flagger or brake lights instead of honks, it takes much longer to set up and go and traffic becomes a huge problem. You can slow to a 40 or even a 20 roll and get the race off before traffic gets anywhere near you. Too many times with a dig race it has to be aborted due to traffic approaching. In a totally secluded spot with no traffic I'm all for a good dig race.

My second reason for liking roll runs is that sometimes it's fun to see how the cars compare acceleration wise. Too many dig races are so one sided because one car spins or the other guy botches a launch, or whatever that you don't get a feel for how the cars compare except for the launch. That isn't fun to me as I'd rather get a good close race. If most people only cared about which car launched better then 1/8 mile racing would be more popular, but I've never met anyone who would rather go to an 1/8 mile track over a 1/4 mile track.

At the end of the day it's all about having fun. If two people agree to a race from whatever speed then I don't see why other people have such a problem with it. I have no use for autocross, drifting, or road racing, so I stay out of threads that have to do with those. For some reason people seem to like going into roll race threads just to tell the OP that he's doing it wrong. I'll never understand that mentality.

I have a high powered Supra and Mustang. Both are a real challenge to race from a dig and are/were sticks. Roll racing is for people that can't launch or have a car that doesn't hook. Dig racing is where it is. Roll racing proves little. Dig racing is a combination of proper car set up and driving skills.

I have a high powered Supra and Mustang. Both are a real challenge to race from a dig and are/were sticks. Roll racing is for people that can't launch or have a car that doesn't hook. Dig racing is where it is. Roll racing proves little. Dig racing is a combination of proper car set up and driving skills.

Big difference dig on prepped track with 600+ rwhp and trying same thing on the street on rwd cars.

I have a high powered Supra and Mustang. Both are a real challenge to race from a dig and are/were sticks. Roll racing is for people that can't launch or have a car that doesn't hook. Dig racing is where it is. Roll racing proves little. Dig racing is a combination of proper car set up and driving skills.

I find it to be fun, which is more important to me than trying to "prove" something.

"Prove" what?

Roll racing proves little. Dig racing is a combination of proper car set up and driving skills.

Who has the better setup/driving skills is what I'm guessing you meant.

I'm just out enjoying my car and having fun. I find roll racing to be one way for me to do that. Some people seem to think it's an affront to the hobby that people would dare to enjoy their cars this way. (Not meant as a shot at you, Mike. You're always reasonable and respectful, whether you agree with an opinion or not.)

Got you. No worries.

I like digs. The random roll races are ok, but if I'm setting something up it's going to be a dig.

very nice civic, props

I have a high powered Supra and Mustang. Both are a real challenge to race from a dig and are/were sticks. Roll racing is for people that can't launch or have a car that doesn't hook. Dig racing is where it is. Roll racing proves little. Dig racing is a combination of proper car set up and driving skills.

is it more fun to do a dig in a high powered car on the street? yes. but the biggest thing about dig runs on the street is traction. sure you might be a great driver, but if your on a shit street you wont get traction regardless how good of a driver you are until you hit around 60. hence why most high hp guys just go for a 60 roll, especially around here. if you know you cant get traction till 60 why bother if you dont have to?

is it more fun to do a dig in a high powered car on the street? yes. but the biggest thing about dig runs on the street is traction. sure you might be a great driver, but if your on a shit street you wont get traction regardless how good of a driver you are until you hit around 60. hence why most high hp guys just go for a 60 roll, especially around here. if you know you cant get traction till 60 why bother if you dont have to?

Not even about the driver at times, stalled auto and tires eliminates that. Which is why most with autos prefer to dig, because they are taking full advantage of their setup. Me personally i don't plan to dig unless its like a private secluded meet or at the track. Down here doing a dig on the road most meet up to run is dangerous and stupid. the pavement is terrible, and 90% of the vehicles out at that time are sleepy truck drivers. No thanks.

People that bitch about roll racing are hilarious. Racing is racing. Who gives a flying shit???!! Jesus. As long as the race goes 80-100 mph start to finish, it's a good time

is it more fun to do a dig in a high powered car on the street? yes. but the biggest thing about dig runs on the street is traction. sure you might be a great driver, but if your on a shit street you wont get traction regardless how good of a driver you are until you hit around 60. hence why most high hp guys just go for a 60 roll, especially around here. if you know you cant get traction till 60 why bother if you dont have to?
It does'nt matter if both of ya are on the same surface...it's time to man up and :drive:
People that bitch about roll racing are hilarious. Racing is racing. Who gives a flying shit???!! Jesus. As long as the race goes 80-100 mph start to finish, it's a good time

That's the problem. This 60-120 or 130 only nets you 60 or 70 mph of acceleration and 1 gear change. No fun in that, especially if your car runs around 100mph in the 1/8. Part of the deal is if I can out drive someone. That's what's cool about a dig. If I can pedal my car and get traction then good for me if the other guy can't.

why are you so concerned about what cars other people like and how other people like to race? its as if it REALLY offends you or affects your life in some manner..

It does'nt matter if both of ya are on the same surface...it's time to man up and :drive:


That's the problem. This 60-120 or 130 only nets you 60 or 70 mph of acceleration and 1 gear change. No fun in that, especially if your car runs around 100mph in the 1/8. Part of the deal is if I can out drive someone. That's what's cool about a dig. If I can pedal my car and get traction then good for me if the other guy can't.

If you wanna race then race. Don't look for bandaides to cover your car inadequacy. That's what biscuit racing does. My car is no dig car by any means, it's not that powerful either. But it is quick. Biscuit racing used to be reserved for the front drivers, now almost all you hear/see is biscuit racing even with comparable rwd cars.......it's sad to see near stock cars running from a 60 biscuit.

don't mind my ignorance, but what is a biscuit? I always assumed it was a tasty breakfast treat that could be eaten with a plethora of various sauces and condiments including but not limited to cream cheese, cheese, nut butter, nutella, poached egg, scrambled egg, ham, sausage, bacon, honey.

don't mind my ignorance, but what is a biscuit? I always assumed it was a tasty breakfast treat that could be eaten with a plethora of various sauces and condiments including but not limited to cream cheese, cheese, nut butter, nutella, poached egg, scrambled egg, ham, sausage, bacon, honey.
lmao, and to think, i thought it was a chubby vajina. hiho educate us

this thread is entertaining to say the least. Might need to make a trip up to VA one weekend to see whats so great about this Hiossilver car. We can go from a dig princess.

What's up with the name calling?

this thread is entertaining to say the least. Might need to make a trip up to VA one weekend to see whats so great about this Hiossilver car. We can go from a dig princess.

Don't waste your gas unless you race him for money dude. Couple hour drive to race an 11 second car isn't worth it...

Don't waste your gas unless you race him for money dude. Couple hour drive to race an 11 second car isn't worth it...
Your car probly wouldnt be capable of any runs after a couple hour drive. Pm me a timeslip.

Don't waste your gas unless you race him for money dude. Couple hour drive to race an 11 second car isn't worth it...

Its all in fun, and I dont really care, i drive 3-4 hours to go to some tracks, mind as well have some fun with a few new people.

Your car probly wouldnt be capable of any runs after a couple hour drive. Pm me a timeslip.

Not even a single pull.

Its all in fun, and I dont really care, i drive 3-4 hours to go to some tracks, mind as well have some fun with a few new people.

Then I guess it would be straight LMAO chance to check out VA beach.

i've been to VA beach quite a few times, ex used to live in Hampton when she was stationed there.

i've been to VA beach quite a few times, ex used to live in Hampton when she was stationed there.

That whole area is nice. Would have liked to have been stationed up there. Lucky ass navy.

Love that area. Lot of action in Newport news and VA beach

Yeah it way nicer that where I'm stationed in Jacksonville NC... She was in the airforce not the navy though.

Yeah it way nicer that where I'm stationed in Jacksonville NC... She was in the airforce not the navy though.

Same place as you man, air force eh? Nice pull.

high school sweethearts LOL this was almost 10 years ago now though...

Been a minute then. Original point - VA is the shit if your willing to travel, I think notch said he was.somewhere around there too? Unless I'm thinking about someone else.

Been a minute then. Original point - VA is the shit if your willing to travel, I think notch said he was.somewhere around there too? Unless I'm thinking about someone else.
Im about 3 hrs north of v.a. Beach.

Ej1, do you still get on honda tech? if so can you see if there is any 11.6-11.8 civics etc . In my area that are down to run a slower car? Id like to dig run one faster than me. Just to see outcome.

Ej1, do you still get on honda tech? if so can you see if there is any 11.6-11.8 civics etc . In my area that are down to run a slower car? Id like to dig run one faster than me. Just to see outcome.

I do and i can ask - sites against street racing though. You looking for a boosted civic or na to run? Huge difference from a dig.

Boosted. Would be a beter run, im a 12.30ish car traping some where around 114 -115. Im still on exhaust manifolds and stock longblock

Boosted. Would be a beter run, im a 12.30ish car traping some where around 114 -115. Im still on exhaust manifolds and stock longblock

None of my buddies on HT that are near you run higher than 10.9, he's an na car with a 1.6 60ft and traps in the 120s...if your willing to wait I can make my way near you and run at 15psi, that should be about what your looking to race.

At that trap speed that a 700whp car all day.

At that trap speed that a 700whp car all day.

He's sitting in the mid 300s

im a 12.30ish car traping some where around 114 -115.

Seriously?

I don't think any roll should go over 60 unless your car has insane power. If you do do a 80 or do it needs to go to 180. Just my thoughts. My shit is slow so I stick to digs 20s and 40s

He's sitting in the mid 300s

Are you talking about Robs midori EK?

Edit: NVM this guys car trapped 118 and made low 3's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HrmnAqv9F0&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKyqf9UujTA&feature=plcp

don't mind my ignorance, but what is a biscuit? I always assumed it was a tasty breakfast treat that could be eaten with a plethora of various sauces and condiments including but not limited to cream cheese, cheese, nut butter, nutella, poached egg, scrambled egg, ham, sausage, bacon, honey.

Biscuit or rolls they're both for dinner....lmao

this thread is entertaining to say the least. Might need to make a trip up to VA one weekend to see whats so great about this Hiossilver car. We can go from a dig princess.

Sure man come on up. Nothing so great about my car really.....other than it has a stock ls6 in it and puts up some pretty good numbers for what it is. Just a good all round dd. I'm getting some more tuning done on Tuesday the 31'st to hopefully compliment my latest changes. Hopefully I can break 430 rwhp with stock ls6 heads and cam. Maybe I can make to the 10 sec club in some decent air.

Sure man come on up. Nothing so great about my car really.....other than it has a stock ls6 in it and puts up some pretty good numbers for what it is. Just a good all round dd. I'm getting some more tuning done on Tuesday the 31'st to hopefully compliment my latest changes. Hopefully I can break 430 rwhp with stock ls6 heads and cam. Maybe I can make to the 10 sec club in some decent air.

lol Why don't you just go on E85 and all those goals will come through.

Maybe for my last dance I might try e85......but it would be a pain in the ass because there are no e85 stations around here with in 50 miles......I would be looking for 440+rwhp if I did that.

I have 20-30 gallons of E98 I'll donate to the cause. I heard a rumor that one of the Sheetz in town is going to be carrying E85.

I have 20-30 gallons of E98 I'll donate to the cause. I heard a rumor that one of the Sheetz in town is going to be carrying E85.

I get my E85 by the barrel. Well I run E98, but I can get 55gal for $320 shipped. I never really trusted the consistency of pump E85.

I have 20-30 gallons of E98 I'll donate to the cause. I heard a rumor that one of the Sheetz in town is going to be carrying E85.

I get my E85 by the barrel. Well I run E98, but I can get 55gal for $320 shipped. I never really trusted the consistency of pump E85.

You this is the problem. Having to go get and haul fuel is a severe pain in the ass. Totally reduces the streetability of a car that gets driven as much as this car does. This is one of the reasons why it's more like race gas........and why I like the Pump Gas Nationals so much ;)........youseewhatIdidthere

Something tells me your dsm did'nt touch the 10's w/o it.

Seriously?

Yea seriously, whats the malfunction?

After getting my car on a road course this past weekend, my perspective on drag racing is totally different lol.

After getting my car on a road course this past weekend, my perspective on drag racing is totally different lol.

Lol....tell us how it changed.....Alot fun fun is'nt it?

I started working for a pro roadracing team when I was 19.

Lol....tell us how it changed

It's lame :drive:. And Hondas do a better job turning then trying to go fast from a dig. But we all knew that lol

It's lame :drive:

Are you going to turn into one of those road racing guys who talks down to people who drag race because there aren't turns? :poke:

Are you going to turn into one of those road racing guys who talks down to people who drag race because there aren't turns? :poke:

No. Most of my good friends are avid road racers so the idea is nothing new, I've just never been on a track myself. Its alot more fun. Its just alot harder on a car and more expensive so doing it often is not as easy.

Its alot more fun. Its just alot harder on a car and more expensive so doing it often is not as easy.

I hear it's a blast, but the cost is why I haven't tried it. I just can't stand when someone starts doing it and then suddenly they are like the smoker who quit and everyone who smokes is suddenly subhuman to them :lol:

You this is the problem. Having to go get and haul fuel is a severe pain in the ass. Totally reduces the streetability of a car that gets driven as much as this car does. This is one of the reasons why it's more like race gas........and why I like the Pump Gas Nationals so much ;)........youseewhatIdidthere

Something tells me your dsm did'nt touch the 10's w/o it.

Honestly never even tried. The Evo has been on ethanol for over 5 years. But I figure if my buddy's Neon can do it on 93oct and the stock motor, I shouldn't have any problem with it.

I hear it's a blast, but the cost is why I haven't tried it. I just can't stand when someone starts doing it and then suddenly they are like the smoker who quit and everyone who smokes is suddenly subhuman to them :lol:

LoL no. I want my car to be able to do everything. Being able to go with my buddies to the strip one day then a track day the next weekend is cool. I think if the car is set up right it could do all 3 well. The biggest issue is from the heat the turbo makes.

It's lame :drive:. And Hondas do a better job turning then trying to go fast from a dig. But we all knew that lol
Yeah....we all knew that. One of our old race car drivers owned the showroom stock Acura team.
Are you going to turn into one of those road racing guys who talks down to people who drag race because there aren't turns? :poke:
Although I think there is a art to getting a drag car to leave really hard, drag racing does'nt compare to what the over all car needs in a rr car.
No. Most of my good friends are avid road racers so the idea is nothing new, I've just never been on a track myself. Its alot more fun. Its just alot harder on a car and more expensive so doing it often is not as easy.

It is very expensive and hard on parts. You need coolers for everything and if your car is fast enough a far more extensive cage. The few times I have had my car on a rr track it was pretty scary. When is was stock with about 3000 miles I stuck it in a muddy ditch and had to get it pulled out at our local track...lol Now it's just to fucking fast not to have a cage in it. I can run 160+ at the local track.....not enough car around me for that shit. Years ago I had a g-meter in my car and I could sustain 1.17 g's with spikes of over 1.2.....pretty good for a street car. It can give ya bad tunnel vision on a back road.

Yeah I rode in my buddies C5 Z06 which "only" makes 400whp on a mustang dyno, but its got sticky tires, great brakes, and a set up suspension.

Holy shit is that car fast.

Although I think there is a art to getting a drag car to leave really hard, drag racing does'nt compare to what the over all car needs in a rr car.

I'm not saying one is better than the other or even comparing them, I'm just saying that people who condescend are douche bags.

LoL no. I want my car to be able to do everything. Being able to go with my buddies to the strip one day then a track day the next weekend is cool. I think if the car is set up right it could do all 3 well. The biggest issue is from the heat the turbo makes.

This is why I love the bike! :D

Track days one weekend, drag strip the next, and cruise around on a nice day getting 40-50 mpg on a stock machine that cost me $5,800. The downsides are no radio, it sucks getting caught and having to ride in the rain, and cruising isn't nearly as fun when the weather gets really cold. It's a give and take, but those dry track days make everything about owning a bike worth it.

I always like when people can appreciate multiple styles of racing. Anything with wheels and a motor is fun. I'd have one of everything and go to every different type of track and event I could if I had the time/money.

This is why I love the bike! :D

Track days one weekend, drag strip the next, and cruise around on a nice day getting 40-50 mpg on a stock machine that cost me $5,800. The downsides are no radio, it sucks getting caught and having to ride in the rain, and cruising isn't nearly as fun when the weather gets really cold. It's a give and take, but those dry track days make everything about owning a bike worth it.

I always like when people can appreciate multiple styles of racing. Anything with wheels and a motor is fun. I'd have one of everything and go to every different type of track and event I could if I had the time/money.

You need to get a Scala rider q2. Then you have radio and bluetooth in your helment. They work great and make riding much more pleasurable.

Thats why i love my Subies... road course one day, drag strip the next and... yeah nowhere near your gas mileage with over 500+hp...lol I can drive in the rain and snow the same way i run on dry pavement...lol. Good suspension, nice turbo and fuckin good music nothing beats a track day!! We started out at Summit Point go-karts and its been a tradition ever since.:cheers:


This is why I love the bike! :D

Track days one weekend, drag strip the next, and cruise around on a nice day getting 40-50 mpg on a stock machine that cost me $5,800. The downsides are no radio, it sucks getting caught and having to ride in the rain, and cruising isn't nearly as fun when the weather gets really cold. It's a give and take, but those dry track days make everything about owning a bike worth it.

I always like when people can appreciate multiple styles of racing. Anything with wheels and a motor is fun. I'd have one of everything and go to every different type of track and event I could if I had the time/money.

Maybe for my last dance I might try e85......but it would be a pain in the ass because there are no e85 stations around here with in 50 miles......I would be looking for 440+rwhp if I did that.

Oh pssh its not worth it then man, i live like 5 blocks from an E85 station, and the other 2 or within like 10 min. Ive seen like a 15whp 15+trq all over the powerband just by going on E85.

Just saw this and it blew my mind.

http://v8muscle.net/images/z06%20dyno%20graphs%20all%20stages.jpg

Stock z06 on pump and stock tune, then tuned on 93, then tuned e85 and lastly tuned on e85 with a haltech intake.

FTW racing fuels =)

Oh pssh its not worth it then man, i live like 5 blocks from an E85 station, and the other 2 or within like 10 min. Ive seen like a 15whp 15+trq all over the powerband just by going on E85.

Just saw this and it blew my mind.

http://v8muscle.net/images/z06%20dyno%20graphs%20all%20stages.jpg

Stock z06 on pump and stock tune, then tuned on 93, then tuned e85 and lastly tuned on e85 with a haltech intake.

That still amazes me what those cars can put down with so little. What a great platform!

Oh pssh its not worth it then man, i live like 5 blocks from an E85 station, and the other 2 or within like 10 min. Ive seen like a 15whp 15+trq all over the powerband just by going on E85.

Just saw this and it blew my mind.

http://v8muscle.net/images/z06%20dyno%20graphs%20all%20stages.jpg

Stock z06 on pump and stock tune, then tuned on 93, then tuned e85 and lastly tuned on e85 with a haltech intake.

That's good shit.....just such a pain to have to haul it. If my car was just a weekender then it would'nt be terrible. But if I were to go somewhere in it I would have to change the tune back to 93. I like it being like a normal hassle free car. We'll see, I may try it if I can come up with some big injectors.

Oh shut up, your car is a race car anyways lol. jk :jest: