Might Pick Up T/A Saturday
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Might Pick Up T/A Saturday
So this Saturday I'm looking at a 50k mile WS6 with a peeling hood. I haven't seen it yet, the owner just told me today about the hood and the cracked dash pad and door panels. He also said that the breaks were done a while ago but they didn't put shims in the rear. It's his wife's car one owner and they don't drive it much. Only thing I have a problem with is the hood. I've stripped and repainted cars or just panels 10+ times, only 2 of which were fiberglass, which is more of a pain and risky to not sand too much and make it wavy. I just really hope that only the hood is peeling and the rest of the paint is pretty solid, because I already stripped and repainted 2 of my own camaros and really don't want to do that again. Ordinarily I'd be turned off by the hood because I've been wanting a T/A for about 7-8 years and want it to be really, really nice. After having waited so long I want to get the right one, but I've been looking at them for sale for the past few years and any other car with these miles would be out of my price range from what I've seen.
Anything you think I should look for or be worried about since it's not been driven much? Oil leaks maybe? Tire rot and flatspots? Can I see flatspots on a tire? This would be my daily driver and I'm a little nervous about it because I've had a lot of bad luck the last 4-5 years. Also I have a nice, uncracked dash pad from a 2002 Camaro, will it work in the T/A?
Anything you think I should look for or be worried about since it's not been driven much? Oil leaks maybe? Tire rot and flatspots? Can I see flatspots on a tire? This would be my daily driver and I'm a little nervous about it because I've had a lot of bad luck the last 4-5 years. Also I have a nice, uncracked dash pad from a 2002 Camaro, will it work in the T/A?
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Not sure, it's 90 miles away to a place I've never been and on a saturday. I could try to find a place, but who knows if they'd be able to look at it that day. I'm fairly mechanically inclined, I've done headgaskets in my LT1 for example.
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50,000 miles isn't exactly real low mileage so stop worrying about 'low mileage' issues like you mentioned, unless the 50,000 miles were all put on in the first two years, then the car stored away.
This WS6 sounds like it was outside quite a bit with all those cosmetic issues and certainly was rarely waxed or detailed. Cracked dash, cracked panels, bad hood = not loved as far as I'm concerned on a 50,000 miles car, and what does it tell you about the maintenance of the rest? Any fluid changes other than the oil? original dexcool? original brake fluid? original power steering fluid? You better do some serious questioning about this car before you buy a 'money pit' that needs a lot more repairs than you are aware of. You better take Raleigh TA's advice above if you still want this car. I sure would look elsewhere. You get what you pay for.
This WS6 sounds like it was outside quite a bit with all those cosmetic issues and certainly was rarely waxed or detailed. Cracked dash, cracked panels, bad hood = not loved as far as I'm concerned on a 50,000 miles car, and what does it tell you about the maintenance of the rest? Any fluid changes other than the oil? original dexcool? original brake fluid? original power steering fluid? You better do some serious questioning about this car before you buy a 'money pit' that needs a lot more repairs than you are aware of. You better take Raleigh TA's advice above if you still want this car. I sure would look elsewhere. You get what you pay for.
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He's asking 12k and says the dash broke just last weekend. Says the trans was serviced 1 and a half years ago. That's all I've asked so far, I'll talk to him more today.
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Got a little annoyed with this guy, I had to get the carfax report myself, then I find out it hasn't been smogged. I kept telling him to for a few days, then he says we can do it when I come see the car. It should already be done, it will be a saturday and who knows if they will be filled up or how long I'd need to wait. I'd already be spending a lot of time looking at it thoroughly and if I buy it there's more time to spend at the bank.
I decided to give this local car a chance it has 106k miles but he claims they are babied highway miles from an older women whom he bought it from, only had it 2 months and has to move. Meticulous records and receipts including every single oil change. It's a 2000 ws6, but the price is a little high at $11,900. He says he won't take $10k. Also an automatic.
I decided to give this local car a chance it has 106k miles but he claims they are babied highway miles from an older women whom he bought it from, only had it 2 months and has to move. Meticulous records and receipts including every single oil change. It's a 2000 ws6, but the price is a little high at $11,900. He says he won't take $10k. Also an automatic.
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You are running into some strange folks and not people I would buy from. That 100,000+ miles car is not worth one dime over $8,500 and I don't care what was done to it in the past. You have to put money into cars with 6 figures on the odometer. There just is no getting around it. Just try to sell it in a pinch and see what you get. Trade-in might be $6,000.
Keep looking and good luck with your search.
Keep looking and good luck with your search.
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I was reconsidering a car I was looking at a while ago. Everyone here told me not to get it. 99 WS6 with 67k miles with a rebuilt tranny and rear. He was asking way too much, I was only able to talk him down to $11,500. He wouldn't take less than $12k before, 3 months or more ago he was at nearly $14k. I realized I wanted it too much and wasn't thinking clearly and was rationalizing overpaying. But now I've decided to pass on all three of these cars and keep looking and try to be smart about it. Besides the last guy with the 99 seems a bit strange. I would consider paying $10k-$10.5k, but he probably won't go that low I may come back to it, I don't know. Actually, just about everyone is asking too much so it's gonna be hard. Bottom line these 3 have different issues with the cars or owners not prepared or honest, except the 99, I just don't like the rebuilt rear and tranny and price. Thanks for the input so far guys.
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Checked out another car today from CL, guy was in a financial bind and needed cash soon so he listed it at 8k obo. He said only the hood needs repainted. But when I got there the whole thing was rough. Seemed to run ok, but I wasn't too impressed with the power, but I'm not sure if I expect too much. I've never really driven a nice ls1, so I don't have anything to compare to.
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I bought a '01 WS6, one owner (older couple) with 42500 miles on it for $12500 last June. I think some would say that I overpaid, but I knew I had to have the car. Just be patient, they are out there, and they pop up all of the time. For example, this time of year in my area some real nice cars pop up for sale all of a sudden because a farmer didn't get the crop that he was expecting. Deals are out there...
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I think you did really well at that price.
Found one a bit far away at a dealership that looks fantastic with 60k miles, but have to convince my wife to fly there and drive it back. I am wondering though why it's $2,600 under blue book. Don't dealers usually mark these cars up ridiculously?
Found one a bit far away at a dealership that looks fantastic with 60k miles, but have to convince my wife to fly there and drive it back. I am wondering though why it's $2,600 under blue book. Don't dealers usually mark these cars up ridiculously?
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It was way more than just the hood. Every panel had deep scratches on it every square foot along with very heavy swirls, driver's door was cracked in three places, clear was about to go in more than half of the panels, bubbling on the t top bar. Maybe the fenders could be saved with paint correction but even that would be a long shot. Also the dexcool didn't look good. The stick looked crusty and muddy. Other fluids were ok. I already passed on it anyways. $240 may do it in NC, but to strip clearcoat from a fiberglass hood with that many curves, primered, blocked, painted to match in CA - $240 is not enough.
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So this Saturday I'm looking at a 50k mile WS6 with a peeling hood. I haven't seen it yet, the owner just told me today about the hood and the cracked dash pad and door panels. He also said that the breaks were done a while ago but they didn't put shims in the rear. It's his wife's car one owner and they don't drive it much. Only thing I have a problem with is the hood. I've stripped and repainted cars or just panels 10+ times, only 2 of which were fiberglass, which is more of a pain and risky to not sand too much and make it wavy. I just really hope that only the hood is peeling and the rest of the paint is pretty solid, because I already stripped and repainted 2 of my own camaros and really don't want to do that again. Ordinarily I'd be turned off by the hood because I've been wanting a T/A for about 7-8 years and want it to be really, really nice. After having waited so long I want to get the right one, but I've been looking at them for sale for the past few years and any other car with these miles would be out of my price range from what I've seen.
Anything you think I should look for or be worried about since it's not been driven much? Oil leaks maybe? Tire rot and flatspots? Can I see flatspots on a tire? This would be my daily driver and I'm a little nervous about it because I've had a lot of bad luck the last 4-5 years. Also I have a nice, uncracked dash pad from a 2002 Camaro, will it work in the T/A?
Anything you think I should look for or be worried about since it's not been driven much? Oil leaks maybe? Tire rot and flatspots? Can I see flatspots on a tire? This would be my daily driver and I'm a little nervous about it because I've had a lot of bad luck the last 4-5 years. Also I have a nice, uncracked dash pad from a 2002 Camaro, will it work in the T/A?