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Old 12-10-2012, 12:44 PM
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Got a 72 camaro installing a ls6 with the GM muscle car oil pan. My passanger side inner tie rod hits on the pan. Has anyone else ran into this?
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This is common, you will need to raise the engine up a bit or notch the oil pan to clear.

Some have added steering stops, changed rod end (no grease fittings) and also changing to a different pan sometimes helps.

If you research the A-Body swaps, many have had this issue.

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Had the same problem with the malibu. Changed the clam shell th a "truck" one and everythings fine.
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Blue.. did the Clam shell raise the engine in comparison to the older Standard engine mounts ? how much ?

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right now i have the 72 big block frame mounts and the ats plates
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I took some 1/8" steel plate cut it to fit under the frame mounts and welded them onto the from drilled the three holes and bolted the frame mounts down every thing clears fine but now have to bend the headers down a bit more.
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Sorry just saw this.... I had stock 3.8 shells and used the truck ones i dont know how much but my steering didnt his after.
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Some people have switches to the 79 fbody pitman arm for alternator issues so maybe that will help. But I have the carshop 1" plates and sbc mounts with no issues
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I'm trying to envision how the steering even comes close to the oil pan. Mine dropped right in to the stock location without any issues. I mocked it up with the original TH350 mounted to the cross member, and welded in aftermarket solid lower mounts. I did have to put an extra bend in the PS hose to keep it away from the inner tie rod, but that was about it. I don't think our frames are too different. I went with a corvette front drive and batwing pan in mine.
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I hit ACE hardware and found some extra thick washers, almost spacers about 3/8"... Slaped them under the mm and problem solved. $5.00 and 20 minutes.
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1981ta I'll take a few pictures when I get to work. But the plate I welded up seams to do the trick. I just need to find the time to wire and plum the fuel system
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Heres a couple of pictures
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Originally Posted by jlynch799
Heres a couple of pictures
Is your center link bent or worn? Below is a picture of mine, before I bought new tie rod ends. From your pics, it looks like yours is a little close to the frame, in addition to the oil pan.


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Dont think its bent i was brand new from moog, it also matched up the same as what was on there first
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If you notice jlynch799's pan.. it has a very deep front sump. whcih hung down pretty low as compared to a LS1 F-Body pan.

Of all of the OEM Pan's... only the F-Body pan has a shorter depth front sump, which also requires the use of the 3/4 lenght windage tray.

When I when from a F-Body pan to the CTS-V, I had to rasie my engine up. I am trying to find sometime now to pull my engine and go back to the F-Body pan, caused I bottomed out on it and its now cracked.

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That sucks. I think the best option is just to pay a couple extra bucks and get the holley pan (which is the retrolsx pan, right? Didn't they buy that guy's design?). Budget builds are fine but sometimes you gotta stop being cheap, and I say that as someone running a cts-v pan looking to get the holley (or whatever).
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not trying to be cheap but the trial and error starts to really build up, i have a few sets of motor mounts and steering parts that im now stuck with....
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Originally Posted by jlynch799
Dont think its bent i was brand new from moog, it also matched up the same as what was on there first
hmmm, maybe check if the idler arm and pitman arm from a later 2nd gen are shorter (thus moving the center link forward, in relation to the engine / frame). The oil pan in my pic, btw is the 'vette batwing pan, with the engine in the stock SBC position.
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Originally Posted by jlynch799
not trying to be cheap but the trial and error starts to really build up, i have a few sets of motor mounts and steering parts that im now stuck with....
Hah, no, sorry I wasn't clear - I was talking about myself not you. I bet in your case moving the engine up just a tad would work.
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so far those plates " which were free" are the cheapest thing on this build so far. Lol
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