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Old 08-17-2013, 06:58 PM
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Besides the Maggie mp112 and the procgarger is there any other options that are bolt on like any tvs2300 kit or what?? I want to boost my v but plan on a 404 stroker first and just wanted to know
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Eforce but you have to have different heads I believe
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They make an eforce for the cathedral heads on the LS2 corvettes...

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...e/street.shtml

I don't know what about the kit won't fit our cars... Perhaps the heat exchanger pipes or the mounts but they do make them. There is another thread on the cadi forum where someone was working with edlebrock to make a kit specifically for the first gen V but I don't know where that's at in terms of R in D
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Only problem with the bigger blowers is this.. We can't get a big enough manifold under the blower to support big power.. You can change the hood and deck the heads alittle but in reality there is just not enough room for the proper mani for big power. I'm not a fan of hacking the car with big holes for piping and such so I'm limited but if you don't mind the work and cutting the car up then get a 4.0 whipple on that 404 and get a huge dome hood.. You'll make tons of power. Or the procharger.. And even like b.rocks big front mount.. All on you how far you want to take it
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when are you going to post up a youtube of your crazy maggie build dude? I want to hear that thing screaming like its eating a baby seal
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Here's me E-Force thread. Good luck with a Whipple

https://ls1tech.com/forums/cadillac-...ld-thread.html
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Well if I am stop breaking **** I might just be able to make a vid. Lol. Ill see if I can get the dyno vid from a couple weeks ago
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Originally Posted by punishmentcycle
Well if I am stop breaking **** I might just be able to make a vid. Lol. Ill see if I can get the dyno vid from a couple weeks ago
Do it!!! I need some crazy car ****. I want to hear that Maggie
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Yea that's a pain I was thinking about a rear mount twin holset hx35 set up with meth and nitrous but I gotta decide before I build it ...
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Got to figure out what your goals are first. Like I only want a street driven power house 500+/- would be more than enough. Turbo would awesome but total cost and it being a pain in the ***. But damn there is one real fast V1 here that has been turbo'd and its wicked
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Originally Posted by rbsurfer
Yea that's a pain I was thinking about a rear mount twin holset hx35 set up with meth and nitrous but I gotta decide before I build it ...
if you decide to go turbo then there is no reason for nitrous...sky is the limit with just a boost controler..or till you reach the limit of your motor set up. meth would help but a big intercooler is the way to go.
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Yea but I already have a bottle and a 2 stage nitrous controller so I can set meth at any rpm 3/4 throttle and up and run spray on top lol I'm having trouble figuring out what rotating assembly to go with and what the block will hold. Livernois has a assembly with forged pistons and crank w Manley h beam rods but is the ls motor safe w 11:1 compression on maybe 10 psi maybe 15 tops??
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if its forged itll take it.. once you get up in the boost with the maggie youll have to watch cylinder temps.. with 11/1 you wont need as much boost to make power.
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Originally Posted by rbsurfer
but is the ls motor safe w 11:1 compression on maybe 10 psi maybe 15 tops??
Safe is a generic term... I don't like using, because its vague.
One could have a 'safe' engine, but a crappy calibration... would mean its no longer 'safe'.
Do not mod = only way to be safe.
You are missing many key factors.
Lets summarize:

Static compression is not a big factor. Dynamic and Cylinder pressure is.
One can have a 11:1 static compression, but with the cam choice, have a 7.6:1 Dynamic. You would have no problem with 15psi.

Lets also look at "15psi" this is a measurement of restriction. Open your heads up, lower the psi (less stress on stuff).

Another important thing to remember is, even if you ran a high dynamic compression, there will be a point where the fuel will pre-det no matter the timing, simply due to one has exceeded that fuel. (too high cylinder pressure)

Another is (if we are within that fuel limit) the higher compression Narrows the tuning window... meaning, the engine (any engine) is less forgiving if you are off in the calibration.

Another would be the type of FI, TWin screw vs turbo vs centri apply different cylinder pressure curves...
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So would it be smarter to run less boost then? I'm just trying to put this together properly the first time do you know of any sites that can educate me on this ? If so feel free to share
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The only true "kit" I've heard of is the MP-112. Oh, how wish this wasn't the case, but it seems everything else requirements some degree of "fabbing" or the addition of parts not included in the "kit."

Am I wrong?
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nope...



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