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Old 10-06-2013, 09:29 PM
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The cars:
Mine-- 95 Z28 m6, 11:1 383, stock untouched heads with pro mag 1.6 rockers, 918 valve springs, and CC306, pacesetter longtubes/y pipe/no cat back, stock rear end with 3.42s, everything else is stock(injectors,TB,ect.), running an open loop tune.

My buddies car: 97 Z28 M6, 178,xxx miles, bone stock with 4.11s in the rear.


ok so my buddy and I decided to go at it last night and I was very surprised to say the least....


Starting from a roll, we stay together for the most part and I BARELY pull ahead by a couple of feet. I thought for sure i would've taken him by at least a car length but just didn't happen lol.

Starting from a dig, we both spin like hell but I pull ahead a little more this time.

do 4.11s really make that much of a difference or you think my car just runs like poo? ( I do get 11.4ish AFR at WOT and trying to get that figured out on my diy tune lol)

I'm in the process of getting a mount for my phone or rigging up my camcorder somehow to get some footage....next in line is a fox body H/C/I 4.10s, and some twin turbo BMW that wants in on the fun!
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Sounds like your car is junk.
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Originally Posted by sw07gt
Sounds like your car is junk.


haha maybe
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I would say he is the better driver!
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Originally Posted by evillsx
I would say he is the better driver!
hmmm lets see...... find the right gear/rpm to start a roll race and floor it then shift fast.... seems like we were both doing that but maybe you gotta do a little dance or something I don't know about yet
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Set ups like this is why LT1s get their bad rep

So a stock car keeping up sounds 100% correct
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Depends on the overall race. If you were losing ground on shifts, then it's more of a driver.
Now if you're not losing ground, then it may be a poor setup
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Your car runs like poo op.....fix it.
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Get it tuned by some one good and pick up all the power your DIY tune is lacking. 11.4 for one is part of the problem
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if anything I was gaining on shifts so I guess my car is poo. lol

quick question tho, Can a Tune be that far off? I'm not a pro and I have just learned from reading on this site. I'm running 35* timing from 4000rpm and up and like I said before, AFR of 11.4...trying to lean that out at the moment. OR is it the fact that my heads are stock?
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This can't be real life


Inb4 the lock
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You ever had it to the track op?
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
You ever had it to the track op?
yup. ran 14.08 @ 103mph with a 2.3 60'..... the track is at about 4700' and was humid that day and around 75*f
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My old cc306 Lt1 car would destroy my current car. I don't even....
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Originally Posted by SQUEEGIOZ28
The cars:
Mine-- 95 Z28 m6, 11:1 383, stock untouched heads with pro mag 1.6 rockers, 918 valve springs, and CC306, pacesetter longtubes/y pipe/no cat back, stock rear end with 3.42s, everything else is stock(injectors,TB,ect.), running an open loop tune.

My buddies car: 97 Z28 M6, 178,xxx miles, bone stock with 4.11s in the rear.


ok so my buddy and I decided to go at it last night and I was very surprised to say the least....


Starting from a roll, we stay together for the most part and I BARELY pull ahead by a couple of feet. I thought for sure i would've taken him by at least a car length but just didn't happen lol.

Starting from a dig, we both spin like hell but I pull ahead a little more this time.

do 4.11s really make that much of a difference or you think my car just runs like poo? ( I do get 11.4ish AFR at WOT and trying to get that figured out on my diy tune lol)

I'm in the process of getting a mount for my phone or rigging up my camcorder somehow to get some footage....next in line is a fox body H/C/I 4.10s, and some twin turbo BMW that wants in on the fun!

Allow me to make a suggestion…

First, the 4.10s are not to be believed… you'll love 'em.

Second:

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Troll!!!
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Stock heads on a 383, with a 306 cam and stock gears is a terrible combination. Only way it could be worse is if it was an auto with stock stall too. You basically killed all your low and mid range with the top end cam CC306, but since the heads are too small for a 383 your topend is choked too. That combo is slower then a bolt-on car.

You need good heads, a tune, and some 4.10s. Stroking a car is USELESS if you don't change the heads. The stock LT1 heads can't even support a 350ci with stock cam @ 6,000 RPM, your cc306 cammed 383 can't breathe.

Heads and cam dictate how much power you will make, cubes shift where that power occurs. There is very little to be gained when stroking a motor when everything else stays the same.
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<---Hopes that Fox Body rapes you
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Hate to say it man but the fox and beamer may eat you for breakfast.


If you are auto stall it and put gears, regardless your gonna need tires to help hook. second those heads are way off for the engine you have. Get aluminum heads or have the heads worked for bigger valves and such. Third the stock fuel system has got to go. you cant feed a beast with jewish qualitys.


4.10s will only help if your suspention and tires will hold to make it hook. Otherwise its pissing in the wind man.


But good luck on getting your problems worked out cause I think she has plenty potential.
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Originally Posted by Puck
Stock heads on a 383, with a 306 cam and stock gears is a terrible combination. Only way it could be worse is if it was an auto with stock stall too. You basically killed all your low and mid range with the top end cam CC306, but since the heads are too small for a 383 your topend is choked too. That combo is slower then a bolt-on car.

You need good heads, a tune, and some 4.10s. Stroking a car is USELESS if you don't change the heads. The stock LT1 heads can't even support a 350ci with stock cam @ 6,000 RPM, your cc306 cammed 383 can't breathe.

Heads and cam dictate how much power you will make, cubes shift where that power occurs. There is very little to be gained when stroking a motor when everything else stays the same.
This x1000000. Your stock heads are the biggest culprit. I'd it wasn't for the stock heads, you would have stomped the bolt-on car. Fix that first.


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