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Old 10-14-2013, 07:31 PM
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Thoughts on this? I will either do this with some higher compression pistons (12:1) with 91/93 or just swap pistons and rods and do a procharger big hp build. Personal thought, opinion, experience is what im looking for here. Looking to build a fun car on a budget that will be quick on the strip and circuit and occasionally drive to work.
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I don't think high hp procharger build fits budget friendly. Lol.. I have been gathering parts just for the procharger build for the past few months. Not counting saving the funds to replace the rear end setup. $$$ A better question is how much do you want to spend. And where do you want the car to be in the next year or two.
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Procharger will cost you 4500 in parts alone. Ask me how I know.
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How much power can I get out of a stroker setup with cam?
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Im currently piecing a kit together still need injectors and piping to go.
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stroker ? why?
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-f...-347-d1sc.html


Be prepared for $$ for rear end, fueling, clutch, bushings, supporting items.

Fun car on a budget <>(!=) CTS-V Gen I, regardless which route you take.. it will at least be 'fun'.
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Just do a supercharger... Rebuilding the LS6 seems to be more trouble than it's worth. I have been looking at just doing forged rods and pistons... Even then it's barely worth it.
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Originally Posted by vmapper
stroker ? why?
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-f...-347-d1sc.html


Be prepared for $$ for rear end, fueling, clutch, bushings, supporting items.

Fun car on a budget <>(!=) CTS-V Gen I, regardless which route you take.. it will at least be 'fun'.
huh? I'm not picking up too much of what you are saying

anyway this guy has to be running forged internals at that power level. definitely something i would do though. I like that setup for sure. thanks for the link!
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The benefit of staying N/A in the V is the trans and fuel system stock will handle a good amount. Once you start getting over 500rwhp its time to address the supporting mods which arent cheap and make the engine build the easy part.
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Originally Posted by lsx_production
huh? I'm not picking up too much of what you are saying

anyway this guy has to be running forged internals at that power level. definitely something i would do though. I like that setup for sure. thanks for the link!
a) Meaning plenty of power can be had by not bothering with stroking to a 383. (if you look, its a 347 (non stroked setup). There are also benefits such as piston land thickness when non-stroked. using flat top pistons, gets you a thicker skirt as well.
b) Be prepared to dump lots of fabbing, time and money to support FI.
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Originally Posted by vmapper

Fun car on a budget <>(!=) CTS-V Gen I, regardless which route you take.. it will at least be 'fun'.
I'm talking about this part here.

What i will probably do is similar to what the guy on the vette forums did which pretty much was head cams exhaust and tune. I will probably buy the rear end right away for strength and gears. then enjoy that and go to a forged build with the same supercharger the vette forum guy did...
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Building a stroker isn't a bad idea. Full rotating assy can be had for about 2 grand with everything you'll need. Biggest thing with strokers is getting a cam that will use those extra cubes. Strokers work great with FI as well but when you get up into big power you run the risk of piston rock/slap from the piston skirts being so short. Either way the V is always a fun car!
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imma say bye bye to that idea. especially since buying a whole new crank will cut alot of cost. just need to find a kickin cam and some heads.
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why not just go iron block?(lq4,lq9, etc) its a little heavier (74lbs i believe), but will hold considerably more power than the aluminum will.
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All I meant was budget does not equal modified cts-v Gen I. that was all. I guess the term 'budget' is relative.



Originally Posted by dre2013
why not just go iron block?(lq4,lq9, etc) its a little heavier (74lbs i believe), but will hold considerably more power than the aluminum will.
Iron blocks are an option however stating considerably more power is incorrect.
This should be corrected to "more forgiving" for error with the Calibration. An LS Aluminum will hold 1000hp just as well as the iron cousin will - either no problem with the appropriate parts. However, if you like to calibrate where pre-det is abundant, when **** goes wrong, the Iron will take it, as well, if pistons let go, you probably have a block to re-run with vs cracking aluminum cylinders and that would be it. We can debate when going up into the 1500 range, however, I am sure that is irrelevant for this discussion.

I am a fan of sticking with the Aluminum unless one is aiming for a junk yard budget for pure power only.
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dont the aluminum engine have iron sleeves?
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They are thin liners hence the limited hone/bore for the LS1. Should have re-worded to say "vs cracking the Aluminum block"
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Originally Posted by lsx_production
imma say bye bye to that idea. especially since buying a whole new crank will cut alot of cost. just need to find a kickin cam and some heads.
Are you scrapping both the stroker and SC idea? The 408 short block I ran in my SS cost less than a sc kit. Plus as stated, the stock fuel system fed it fine with ford red top injectors. I'd imagine the V can support it too. The torque was great and a h/c 346 won't have the torque curve that a stroker will, and that torque will help a heavy V more than peak hp numbers. My 09 V doesn't compare, but it's still too stockish. Now a well built forced induction 346 is a different story, but how deep are your pockets?

I will echo what was in another post. With more HP you will find your weak links. Factor future breakage into your modding budget. Plus it gets more difficult to hook up so you end up running softer tires and having to change them more often.
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scrapping the stroker idea and will go SC. A good set of forged pistons and rods will do and i will resleeve before I do a overbore since they dont cost too much money. should have a pretty beast setup from there.



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