hellbents10

iTrader: (10)

I have my 01' S-10 tore apart gettin ready for a transplant. I went 13.29 on the 4.3l w/ 100 shot, now i want to go faster. I would like to see how far i could go all motor for once. I have done the turbo thing and I have sprayed this 4.3l for a while. I figured there is no better route to go for hp per $ then a 3rd gen small block. Here is my delema. I can get a 5.3l for $1600 complete and do heads and cam. I can get a 98' LS-1 Camaro wrecked with 39k on it for $4000 and put it in with a cam and valve springs and bolt ons. Or I could get a 1600mi 04' 6.0l for $2600 complete. I am leaning twords the 6.0l cause of the cubes and doing a cam swap before it goes in and see what I can do all motor with stock 317 heads. I would like to go low 11's for sure. My truck wieghs about 3225 with the 4.3l in it. I already have a intank 255lph walbro too. I will have some 1 7/8 headers custom made for it too and run a 3"y to a single 4" exuast. I just wanted some opinions. You guys have been there and have a good idea.

BTW, to give you a idea of what I think is streetable. My Gramps S-10 that I built has a cam with 236/248 duration at .050. It runs 115mph traps off the juice. I think his truck is streetable. I could even take more cam and drive it everyday back and forth to work. I know everyones definition of streetable is different so this give you a idea.

I will be puttin my 4l60e together with a lot of hard parts from the 65e and using rayabests blues and kolene seals and all that good stuff. I would like to go almost a full season between rebuilds on that too. I figure as long as it doesn't break hard parts all the time it will be cool by me. Thanks for any opinions cause thats what i am lookin for, I am loosing to much sleep over this right now.

marc_w

Personally, I'd go for a 5.7 if all of the variables were the same. The motor is lighter, and I'm sure the truck would be a monster with a simple TR224 (cam) swapped in.

But with the low mileage 6.0 - I'd probably go that route.

ackman

I would get the LS1 put 6.0L heads on, change the rod bolts to ARP and boost the snot out of it with a D1 procharger..... I would say 10's are possible.

hellbents10

iTrader: (10)

Thanks for the replys so far. I also did plan on changing the rod bolts while I had it out. Cheap insurence I guess, when reving it sorta higher then it was intended. I want to stay away from boost though, trying to do a nasty all motor setup.

jrp

iTrader: (16)

the 5.7, and stroke it . or just stick with the 346 and h/c, the LQ4 is nice but trucks have a shitty weight distribution to begin with and at lest the 5.7 is over 100lbs lighter then the LQ4

hellbents10

iTrader: (10)

Right you guys have a great point with the wieght.

jrp

iTrader: (16)

heres another thought, APE is/was having there forged 346 shortblocks going for 2500 bucks. that way you have a base to start with that will take just about anything you can throw at it.

foff667

iTrader: (2)

i was gonna suggest that but ya figure if he can get the tranny, wiring, intake with the one from the jyd it would probably be just as good a deal for him in the end. But true, just one more option.

JZ'sTA

iTrader: (23)

True, and also they had the same deal for the 6.0 truck short block bored to a 370 Cube's. Is the extra 23 cubes going the all bore route worth 100lbs? If you have some nice heads I believe it is. You sould really see a decent HP difference because your heads are now flowing on a 4.30 bore. This will make the heads flow better and get more produce more air which is what we all need to go fast.
Also you are better off with the 6.0 heads because stock for stock they flow better then the 5.3's or 5.7's and almost every head ported gets better flow results out of the 6.0's vs the 5.3's or 5.7's.
One more thing to look at when compairing APE's 347 vs the 370 is compression. I am guessing you want to run around 11:1 compression to achieve the best HP and still use 93 octane, and w/o having to pull mad timing.
The 370 cubic inch with unmilled 6.0 heads and flat top pistons would be around 10.2
The 347 with stock unmilled 5.3 heads and flat tops would be around 10.85

pimpracing98

iTrader: (1)

Wish you luck with the swap. I have a 98 SS S-10 that I was going to do the same thing too. Bought a 99 Z-28 engine with pmc. Just going to take so much $ to do the swap. I think it will be a monster no matter what you do. I sold the engine and bought a T/A and going to use the truck as a daily driver. I still want to do this to the truck later. Let me know how it goes and what kind of money I will need. Also what problems you run into.

badls1

iTrader: (1)

Shold of posted this a week ago sold and LS1 w/4l60 for $1200 w/30000 miles. I would go with the 5.7 LS1 for weight. Then do PP stage 2 LS6 heads and a cam of your choice. Cam only would be hard for an truck to run low 11's on motor. Your not going to bring in the same 60's as an F-Body or an vett.

just my .02

hellbents10

iTrader: (10)

Well I can get the truck to pull in the 1.50's as far as the 60ft goes. Its not to bad to get these things to hook on a 26x10.5 with the right suspension parts. I am starting to think the price might be a bit high on the 5.7 and 6.0 what do you guys think. Could I find one cheaper. If I found a 5.7 or a 6.0 I could afford to do the heads and cam before it goes in. Besides I have a 4l60e I also have a spare trans with the right imput shaft and bellhousing, cause they are diff. on the 4.3l. I would like to find something like the 6.0l liter I found just the eng. complete with computer harness and accesories. I just don't want to b hunting for parts down the road on this swap. My friend jsut bou a lq9 with trans computer harness and accesories in mint shape with 6k on it for $3000. Its a 02' I belive cause it has the 317 heads. Do you guys think I should be able to find a low miler for less then $2200 or so. Besides I think if I got one from a 4x the harness wouldn't work anyhow. I could just buy a computer and have a harness made for $500. Still loosing sleep though so much runnin through my mind. Would be easier if I just had a f-body. I guess its the price I pay for just bing difficult. I am really leaning twords the 6.0 with heads and cam right from the go. Then once the bottom give the ghost it will be time for a 370 mill to run hard on the motor with a touch of spray when its not fast enough anymore.

Keep it coming people. I am intrested in the pros and cons of a 5.7 vs. a 6.0l now. the 5.3 is ruled out now. If I am going to do it I want to do it right. Thanks agian for the replys.