SLPSS339

I filed the Lemon Law on the suppose to be "Piston Slap" or "Carbon Buildup". What do u guys think?

SLPSS339

it has it through out the day not just on warm-up i could be hard driving around or the track and still have that noise. people get in my car and the first thing they here is that and ask what is that.

horist

Have you brought it back to the dealership? what have they done?

Unless I'm mistaken you have to bring it in, and the dealership has to try to fix the problem a certain number times before your car is a lemon and they have to buy it back....

Seems kinda silly to me to file for a lemon over piston slap

SLPSS339

3 dealers in san antonio said two different things, two said "piston slap" and one said "carbon buildup and or high performance parts due to slp" they will not look at it anymore they will just tell me from the start. but the noise isnt just at startup its all day. some light or some heavy noise. now my car has 32k miles and my service engine light is on and its at the dealer now for that.

Bloodztone

Hey SLP come to the Sonic meet tonight at I-10 and DeZavala at 8pm. I'll have my ATAP out there and we can see what codes your car is throwing. There is another guy on CZ28.com that is going through the piston slap issue also but he doesn't have an SES light on.

jmX

Wow, ok, I've never heard a motor that had piston slap all the time. My ls1's have all had it for the first minute or so at startup, but never more than that.

SLPSS339

just talked to Steve @ Anceria Chevrolet they said they have not gotton to my car yet which has been there since 7:15am but my might put me in a rental for the night. but if i get the car back i will be there. or let me know on your next meet

Bloodztone

We meet every Tuesday at 8pm there unless it's raining. Good luck with your car and I hope you get the problem resolved soon.

SLPSS339

Thanx

cantdrv65

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P.S. My piston slapping Ls1 now has 90,000 miles...My former LT1 did the same thing. If you are throwing codes you have another problem however....

Good Luck

shane p

I heard that GM messed up the piston rings in 1998 and 99 ls1 motors causing smoke oil consumption blow by it mainly happens on the manual cars because they are ran at a higher rpm i went to a dealer ship they acted stupid and i called gm and the guy i talked to was a real *** hole i ended up telling him to go to hell does anyone know about this and if everyone is getting screwed like me that sounds like a lemon in my opinion. <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />

Paul F

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They all have piston slap so unless your is horrible I see no point. Man you ought to here Angie's Jeep. You'd think a rods about to come through the block. It's pretty common with the newer engines.


Paul

cantdrv65

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What Paul said....Piston slap on my sister-in-law 2003 Jeep Liberty makes my Ls1 sound very mild....

jmX

SLPSS, your car makes some noise for the first minute or two of operation while its warming up, and you filed a lemon law on THAT? Why? does it really bother you that much? Is yours really really really loud or something? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

XLR8VRL

Hey Bro I went through it with my 01 WS6 M-6. It had un-godly engine noise and was sucking up a qt of oil in 3000 miles (the tailpipes were actually wet with oil) Pontiac told me this was normal <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" /> I pushed the issue and they started an oil consumption test- starts with them changing my oil $72 i look at the invoice and it has MOA on it (for $10) i got to wondering so I asked - Motor Oil Additive !!! they put STP in it!!! then for the hell of it i check the oil -it was overfull by a quart back to the dealer to get the level right, then back every 500 miles to monitor the oil level Well it used a qt in 2500 miles and then theytell me "Oh thats normal" I was ready to go to war when i found a sweet 0% deal on an 02 WS6 so i got rid of it. Supposedly the 02 has a revised ring design I had the site that explained it with pics but im sorry i cant find it now Anyway i now have 13000 miles and no noise and no oil consumption, Good luck I feel your pain i was very upset about the issue and the way I was treated by Pontiac - Not sure why i went back for more I guess its just because i love this car

Dope

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I think any car that is run hard will use some oil. In the summer when I race and so forth, I go through about a quart every 3000 miles. In the winter, I use no appreciable amount at all.

Also, I still have no idea what piston slap sounds like, I don't think I've ever heard it.

Dope

XLR8VRL

Mine sounded like someone inside my engine with a ball peen hammer Also i jump on it once in awhile but generally i dont drive it that hard. I have a 68 with over 200k on it that doesnt use that much oil <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

robertbartsch

i think you are correct in filing a lemon law suit - YES!!!

..it is about time GM paid attention to quality control and design issues....after all, they produce some of the worst garbage on the planet...actually, i'm surpised they are still in business given that the competition makes great products...

...thank you ralph nader for the lemon law!!!!!

by the way, the stats on the lemon law indiate that the vast majority of claims are made against the General ...so that speaks volumes for their crappie design...basically they don't care...so the legal system is there to force them to deal with the crappie cars...

unfortunately, the LS1 is a fast motor and it is realitively cheap ...so yes I own one too...

10.5 Dave

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Guys really a qt of oil ever 2500-3000 miles is nothing big in an engine subject to high rpm use.My 2002 silverado hd 8.1 drinks a qt ever 800-900 miles.I documented all oil and fuel usage and after going thru tests at dealer and being told its normal <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> .I contacted a lawyer and 9 months later won a judjement.For those with serious noise or consumption I suggest same path,just be patient it takes time to get results. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

The Dragon

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by t-76Y2KSS:
<strong> Guys really a qt of oil ever 2500-3000 miles is nothing big in an engine subject to high rpm use.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ditto.

My bone stock '02 has piston slap on warm-up but dissipates when driving.