Bob2of3

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I guess this sort of goes along with Harlan's thread but what do you guys/gals see happening on the strip next year?

Will we see a 10 second N/A internally stock pass? An 8 sec N/A pass? 9 sec N/A 346 pass? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> How far into the 8's will we go? Could a 7 sec pass happen?

I'm pretty sure everything I listed will happen with the exception of a 7 sec pass(maybe next year) My low ET for next year is a 8.29 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> Now who's gonna do these things? I have an idea on one of them <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

LAter <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

quickWS6

I expect a 8 second N/A pass, and I wouldn't bet against a 10 second stock interal N/A pass. But, I don't think a 9-second 346 N/A is gonna happen, or any type of 7 second pass. I expect the quickest run to be a nitrous car in the 8.4x range...

It'llrun

What huge change is taking place that you guys expect to see guys drop 3/4's of a second in N/A cars in the next 11 months? I don't wanna sound like it can't happen but, what makes ya think it will with such conviction? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

Nine Ball

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ITs easy to explain why we will see more jumps in standards in the following year. Until this year, most of the LS1s out there were still considered "street" cars. There were very few hardcore all-out race effort LS1 cars then, but we will be seeing more of them as time goes on.

9's with a 346ci WILL happen. Stock Eliminator LS1s are already running low, low 10s with 346ci and unported heads. Its all about suspension setups, raceweight, and engine setups. You really only need about 465-475 rwhp in a lightweight car with a perfect suspension setup to run a 9 second NA pass. A high compression, solid-roller 346 ci "race" built motor should be capable of that, especially with a sheetmetal intake.

Also realize that the majority of fast LS1s out there still run an OEM LS6 intake manifold. These intakes flow 280 cfm or so. My ported heads flow 335 cfm!

Just think, 3 years ago, people thought a 400 rwhp heads/cam LS1 was the ultimate setup. 3 years ago, there were only 6 of us on the net running LS1 11s NA repeatedly. I was the only 11-second NA 6-speed at the time LOL. People even accused us of spraying nitrous to run high 11s with heads/cam back then. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />

My how times have improved! And they are only going to get better....

-Tony

CHRISPY

I dont think you'll see NA 8's for a long time without a crazy low raceweight (2600 pounds) and the PERFECT setup. I think Colonel will hit around 9.40's NA in his new setup. 7's power adder is a LONG way off. Maybe someone will build a C5R motor with a 2700 pound raceweight and spray 1000HP on top of it to the high 7's but it is a TALL order. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Harlan should have some sick numbers out of his car soon <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

y2khawk

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How bout a turbo F-body in the 8's??

LPE's already got a vette there <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

Who's gonna do it first??

Where you at Rob Raymer?? <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />

<small>[ December 07, 2002, 12:16 PM: Message edited by: y2khawk ]</small>

It'llrun

What power adder is on the F-body that's already run an 8?

sited12

Nitrous is used on the ARE car in the 8s

Rpm2800

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Considering an lt1 and ls1 just ran high 8's recently . I THINK 7's might take awhile. Especially if your talking stock suspension.

Rpm2800

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Chris ARE 360:
<strong>7's power adder is a LONG way off. Maybe someone will build a C5R motor with a 2700 pound raceweight and spray 1000HP on top of it to the high 7's but it is a <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">At that weight a "little" 600 shot is all it should take. LOL

Rpm2800

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Chris ARE 360:
<strong>7's power adder is a LONG way off. Maybe someone will build a C5R motor with a 2700 pound raceweight and spray 1000HP on top of it to the high 7's but it is a <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">At that weight a "little" 600 shot is all it should take. LOL

Reckless

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Looking at KECHME's setup, if he doesn't blow it sky high, he will possibly run 9's on a stock bottom end car with all that giggle gas he has <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

I'd say a few more FI cars will run into the 9's. A close friend of mine may be one of them. He is not a regular on this forum. Harlan will be there for sure, and I think his car is a 348 cid.

Colonel

"I dont think you'll see NA 8's for a long time without a crazy low raceweight (2600 pounds) and the PERFECT setup. I think Colonel will hit around 9.40's NA in his new setup."

I hope to have my raceweight somewhere in the neigborhood of 2700 by this time next year and the setup will be as perfect as I can get it. I'm NOT predicting 8s within the year but I will certainly be dissapointed if 9.4s are all I can muster.

Stay tuned! <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />

Geoff

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nine Ball:
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9's with a 346ci WILL happen.
-Tony</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tony, I agree with you!!! Without giving away too much, I will say that we are working very hard towards this goal. I really don't think it is going to be that hard to achieve based on what Angie's car is doing with her present combination, as long as she can drive it!

ROBS SS

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Im pretty sure you will see a LT1 run 8's <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Louis

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Well guys, Im not saying a word. Lets say that LG Motorsports is stepping up to the plate building an F-body. What, how much, where, how, and when will all be released at a later date. The tubing is already ordered, and 80% of the ducks are in a row <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />

y2khawk

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Reckless:
<strong>Harlan will be there for sure, and I think his car is a 348 cid.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sure is, .010 over stock block and crank <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

I'm gunning for deep into the 9's/high 8's by the Thunder Shootout next year. But i still gotta check off the self-set "9's in a 6 speed" goal.

Then a new trans combo <img border="0" alt="[Firebird]" title="" src="graemlins/formula.gif" />

bigSS

I think Colonel is our only hope of 8s N/A. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Mike Hoffpauir

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Geoff:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nine Ball:
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9's with a 346ci WILL happen.
-Tony</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tony, I agree with you!!!
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I agree with you both. I think a 3000 pound raceweight GTS SS Style solid roller revved to 7500+ rpm leaving off of the transbrake could acomplish this. Realistically Gordon's car was going to run some 10.40's@130 in the -1500 D/A like we saw down here last week, as he ran 10.66@128 in 1000 D/A. He was damn near 3400 raceweight with an m6. -400 pounds + A4 with transbrake would have to run in the nines.

mongse

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by ROBS SS:
<strong>Im pretty sure you will see a LT1 run 8's <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I definitely agree there. I can think of 3 or 4 LT1 cars(yes Rob, yours is one of them) that could be pushing bototm 9's/high 8's by this time next year.