Slowhawk

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Looking to buy some front skinnies but want a rim that bolts directly on with no brake problems,stock studs and no spacers required.

Is there a rim that will fit this?

Thanks

CHRISPY

Yes centerline Convo Pro <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Good luck <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Chris

McRat

15x4 1.75 backspace Convo Pro

Get the "Dual Pattern" (same price) so you can sell them to either Ford or Chevy guys.

Run VW 165-15's (cheap) or lightweight ($$$) Moroso, etc.

FACE

I'm sure CCW could make something for you.

McRat

Sounds like cool rims!

But are you sure about the weight? If I remember right, the Convo Pro's are about 11lbs ea.

SJM Manufacturing Inc

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The Bogart rims in my opinion are really that nice. I don't want to sound like i'm downplaying any other rim and saying they all are bad. Bogarts aren't for everyone.

I can only provide the data and let the customers make up their own mind. The weights were quoted to me from centerline tech for each specific rim. The bogart fronts vary from 8.5-9.5 lbs depending on the style and the application (LT1 or LS1. The bogart rears(9.75) come in at 9-10 lbs depending on the style and application (LT1 or LS1).

As mentioned before, its also how the weight is distributed. The bogart rim has most of its mass directed towards the center of rotation (if you picked them up you would understand what I'm saying)

Steve

promod1955

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Bogarts are very nice pieces although my front bogart p-1's did require a little grinding to fit. yes it stock calipers,rotors pads. The car has 104 miles on it so havent nedded to change the pads or anything like that <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> . it wasnt any major grinding by no means. just had to take about an 1/8th inch from the ends of the caliper in about 2 inches. back ones fit fine, no problems. If you can afford them then i'd recomened them.

SJM Manufacturing Inc

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Promod,

Keep in mind, our calipers are floating and not all cars are identical. There can be slight variations to the caliper castings, rotor thickness, and pad thickness.

This all comes into play when fitting the rims. If you had alittle cleaning up, I would conjuncture that you would have had a similiar issue with a centerline front rim also as the caliper clearance front specs are very close.

I know a few guys have had to use a file to clean up castings in some spots in the fronts but it was never any major issue and was very simple to fix.

I'm glad that everything worked out in the end for you and you are happy with the product.

SJM Manufacturing Inc

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Bogart P1 series.

You can view some sample of them on my website. There are many choices to choose from.

Unlike rears centerline rears, you have better B/S options for these rims as I spec’d them specifically for LT1 and LS1 specific. You would not be limited to having to use only 8 inch rears and deal with tires which don't tuck under the rear fender well. Not to mention able to run larger tires which meet tire specifications for tires on the rim

Bogart’s are lighter coming in at over 2 lbs lighter PER RIM for the same size fronts and 7 lbs PER RIM over the same size rears. Rotational mass is greatly reduced with the Bogart’s.

Not only is the overall weight savings better (18 lbs for a whole set!!), but the Bogart’s design incorporates most of its mass towards the CENTER of rotation which greatly reduces rotational mass further!

The P1 Bogart rims are just slightly more expensive BUT, you’re getting a MUCH larger choice in rim designs to choose from, lighter, higher quality, FULLY HIGHLY POLISHED show car finish rim.

Is the little bit of difference in cost worth it. In my opinion, definitely yes! Is it worth it to you? That is something that you have to consider which best fits your needs.

Email me if you have any questions.'

Steve

PS, even though VW style tires will work, I would highly recommend using correctly rated tires for high speeds in addition to the weight of our cars.

I know no one has yet had problems with this configuration but I feel this is an accident waiting to happen to an unfortunate person. Spend the 100.00 more on the correct tires as your life is worth it as are the other racers your up against.

I can tell you that if someone was racing against a person whom was using these tires and one blew and the car wrecked into another racer or spectator, you can bet your bottom dollar that person is going to get sued for a nice sum of money for using hazardous improper equipment. Just my .02 cents.

Keep it safe!

<small>[ February 26, 2003, 12:47 PM: Message edited by: steve10 ]</small>

GeorgeC

The Bogart P1 series wheels are really nice, but like Steve10 said, they do cost a little more...

I've been thinking about changing out my Weld Draglites for some of the Bogarts...

Mike C

steve10
Did you get any update on whether or not these p2 series will be available for direct fitment.Maybe with enough interest 15-20 people you could make something happen. I would be in on this.

P.S Got those pics with that front and rear brake set up that is sweet. That is definately the way to go with the p2s


Mike C
11.2@119 N/A
1.52 60ft

Hardtop

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Bogarts. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> I had to lightly grind the passenger side caliper. Lower outside edge, about 3/4" in length towards the top of the caliper. Depth was minimal, took 30 seconds. I feel this was a casting variation of the caliper, because both front wheels fit the drivers side with NO GRINDING. Rear 15x9.75's fit fine, NO GRINDING. Bogarts are worth the extra money IMHO. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

Bruce

WJ SOM SS

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The Centerline Convo-Pro 15x7.5 w/5" backspace rears fit my '02 SS just fine, EXCEPT, I made the mistake of having them balanced using stick-on weights on inside back of rims. Bolted them w/ET Drags on at the track and.....oh! oh!. Proceeded to rip the balance weights off soon as I moved the car---they hit the rear calipers. Use the bang-on weights at rim edge. Don't make the mistake I did...BTW, the Convo-Pro front skinnies, 15x4 w/1.75 b.s. do NOT hit calipers w/stick-on weights, but car has only 1500 miles and like-new brake pads. Don't know what'll happen when brakes start to wear. Hope this helps someone out....WJ. <img border="0" alt="[burn out]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_burnout.gif" />

kent

The bogard wheels are real nice. I have a set I purchased last year and will used this year. I did not know that these wheels are 18 lbs less that convo pros--this is good news. Now I will have to find some front lite tires. Cheers.

<small>[ March 03, 2003, 08:23 PM: Message edited by: kent ]</small>

2001-WS6

WJ 99 SS, don't feel bad. I did the exact same thing with my Convo Pro 15x8.5 /BS5s. We looked at them and thought the tape ons were going to clear fine and they did. Until the first launch. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Right rear took off every bit of tape and weight while the left peeled off most of the tape. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Rick

SJM Manufacturing Inc

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Mike C:
<strong> steve10
Did you get any update on whether or not these p2 series will be available for direct fitment.Maybe with enough interest 15-20 people you could make something happen. I would be in on this.

P.S Got those pics with that front and rear brake set up that is sweet. That is definately the way to go with the p2s


Mike C
11.2@119 N/A
1.52 60ft </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mike,

Unfortunately, the P2 rims are out of the question with LS1 brakes. The rims are just too radical of a setup since the center circumference is MUCH smaller to push the mass way inward further then the P1's to the center of rotation.

For an LT1 setup, the rears work with a little work similar to weld rims. The fronts still require the use of drag brakes. The P2 rims are definitely for hard-core racers whom want the absolutely lightest rim on the market.

Regarding the stick-on weights, I dont' believe anyone has had an issue with bogarts...at least I haven't heard anyone having problems.

Slowhawk

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So the Bogart wheels will bolt-on(so spacers)and use the same studs?I'm running real heavy Firehawk wheels now(heaviest GM makes)and need a set of light wheels that just bolt up and go.(little grinding=no problem)

SJM Manufacturing Inc

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Slowhawk:
<strong> So the Bogart wheels will bolt-on(so spacers)and use the same studs?I'm running real heavy Firehawk wheels now(heaviest GM makes)and need a set of light wheels that just bolt up and go.(little grinding=no problem) </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes

hondakiller

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are these wheels useable on the street? i didnt think bogarts were strong enough for street daily driving but no grinding and spacers with stock studs sounds good to me.

GeorgeC

From what I understand, the P1 series wheels are just as strong, if not stronger, than an equivalent Weld wheel.

Obviously you want to be more careful of curbs and potholes than with a stocker, but they're fine for normal street use.