patriot gold life?
09-14-2004, 01:09 AM
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patriot gold life? Hey guys. I'm just wondering if the patriot golds are still considered to be excellent springs. I just got the whole kit but don't have them installed yet. I must have bought them right before tsp dropped them. With the torquer cam (233/233 .589,.589 112) how long do you think they will last? I don't plan on going to the track at all for awhile since i don't have money to replace broken parts right now. (college student) So with normal everyday driving, with just a few romps and street races, can i expect 35k out of em?
09-14-2004, 02:06 AM
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I just think its odd that companies like Texas Speed are dropping Patriot Performance as of late.
Doesn't surprise me really, having been through 3 sets of Patriot heads & one engine.
Doesn't surprise me really, having been through 3 sets of Patriot heads & one engine.
09-14-2004, 04:47 AM
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The PP"Gold" springs do not have any record to date of any failure if installed properly.
TSP dropped Patriot mostly because of their inconsistancies in head quality/flow products not the springs. The springs are one of (if not the) best on the market at the moment.
TSP dropped Patriot mostly because of their inconsistancies in head quality/flow products not the springs. The springs are one of (if not the) best on the market at the moment.
09-14-2004, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 1fastWS6
Maybe pull one spring and check it every 10-15k. That's the plan on mine.
09-14-2004, 05:19 PM
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The PP"Gold" springs do not have any record to date of any failure if installed properly.
TSP dropped Patriot mostly because of their inconsistancies in head quality/flow products not the springs. The springs are one of (if not the) best on the market at the moment.
TSP dropped Patriot mostly because of their inconsistancies in head quality/flow products not the springs. The springs are one of (if not the) best on the market at the moment.
A local friend of mine had broken 4 of the so far...... with a TSP 231/237 cam..... the 2nd spring did save the motor....... and you can really tell when you break one.... he replaced them all with a set from Comp. HMMMMMM
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
A local friend of mine had broken 4 of the so far...... with a TSP 231/237 cam..... the 2nd spring did save the motor....... and you can really tell when you break one.... he replaced them all with a set from Comp. HMMMMMM
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Were they all installed properly? I just talked to tsp and they said that with my cam and intended usage that I could get 35-40k out of em. He said to check them at 20-25k though. I'm surprised to hear about them breaking with the 231/237 since it has relatively mild lobes.
09-14-2004, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
A local friend of mine had broken 4 of the so far...... with a TSP 231/237 cam..... the 2nd spring did save the motor....... and you can really tell when you break one.... he replaced them all with a set from Comp. HMMMMMM
I'm still going to go with a set of them.
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
A local friend of mine had broken 4 of the so far...... with a TSP 231/237 cam..... the 2nd spring did save the motor....... and you can really tell when you break one.... he replaced them all with a set from Comp. HMMMMMM
Are you talking about Nakoz?
He used the factory valve spring seats, which you're not supposed to with any dual spring actually, which caused coil bind and broke 4 of his springs. He has a 231/237 cam also.
Here's the thread.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...t+gold+springs
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Patriot Gold
Originally Posted by luv2spd
Hey guys. I'm just wondering if the patriot golds are still considered to be excellent springs. I just got the whole kit but don't have them installed yet. I must have bought them right before tsp dropped them. With the torquer cam (233/233 .589,.589 112) how long do you think they will last? I don't plan on going to the track at all for awhile since i don't have money to replace broken parts right now. (college student) So with normal everyday driving, with just a few romps and street races, can i expect 35k out of em?
I did in fairness contact Patriot and they sent me a new head, However i'm still out of pocket for new block,rods valves and all the associated cost with a new rebuild. When the head porter received the new head it was diffrent so more cost matching them up. While he was checking he found one valve seat lose. VERY LUCKY I GUESS.
My personal opinion is that you get what you pay for. Replace with a set of Comp Springs and never worrie about it.
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Originally Posted by ROCNDAV
so what do you check for at the 10K~15K~20K mark? Pull the springs and measure for consistancy?
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09-14-2004, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
A local friend of mine had broken 4 of the so far...... with a TSP 231/237 cam..... the 2nd spring did save the motor....... and you can really tell when you break one.... he replaced them all with a set from Comp. HMMMMMM
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Originally Posted by 11sHSV
Patriot Ls6 stage 3 heads: My story goes like this. Lost spring tension after 6000 klms , Broke valve,smashed head and piston, the valve went through Block.
I did in fairness contact Patriot and they sent me a new head, However i'm still out of pocket for new block,rods valves and all the associated cost with a new rebuild. When the head porter received the new head it was diffrent so more cost matching them up. While he was checking he found one valve seat lose. VERY LUCKY I GUESS.
My personal opinion is that you get what you pay for. Replace with a set of Comp Springs and never worrie about it.
I did in fairness contact Patriot and they sent me a new head, However i'm still out of pocket for new block,rods valves and all the associated cost with a new rebuild. When the head porter received the new head it was diffrent so more cost matching them up. While he was checking he found one valve seat lose. VERY LUCKY I GUESS.
My personal opinion is that you get what you pay for. Replace with a set of Comp Springs and never worrie about it.
09-15-2004, 05:43 AM
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I've installed about 15 sets without 1 failure so far.My friends car has a .605 lift Cam in a supercharged car spinning 6800rpm.Has 10k miles on them so far without any problems.Warming up the engine before beating is very important for spring life.
