What's a good wax for black?
10-31-2004, 11:34 AM
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What's a good wax for black? What's a very good wax for black after you polish. I've been set up with Z5, then Z2, then what would be a good wax to give a deep wet look for a black car? I was thinking something like this: http://www.autopia-carcare.com/p21-127.html
10-31-2004, 12:00 PM
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Tropi-Care has a very similar appearance to Zaino. If you are looking for something different, you might want to look into a carnauba product.
Pinnacle, P21s/S100, ClearKote, Poorboy's, etc. all make high quality carnauba products.
One of the most highly regarded combinations for black is Klasse AIO topped with Pinnacle Souveran. It is somewhat expensive intially and won't have near the durability of a synthetic.
Pinnacle, P21s/S100, ClearKote, Poorboy's, etc. all make high quality carnauba products.
One of the most highly regarded combinations for black is Klasse AIO topped with Pinnacle Souveran. It is somewhat expensive intially and won't have near the durability of a synthetic.
10-31-2004, 01:29 PM
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Are you planning on topping your Zaino?
The best way to get the deepest, wettest look on your car is to make sure it is perfectly polished (with an abrasive). When you have swirls, scratches, marring, etc. it dulls the appearance of your finish and no wax or sealant will fix that.
Proper prep work is the key, not a product.
The best way to get the deepest, wettest look on your car is to make sure it is perfectly polished (with an abrasive). When you have swirls, scratches, marring, etc. it dulls the appearance of your finish and no wax or sealant will fix that.
Proper prep work is the key, not a product.
10-31-2004, 02:23 PM
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Yeah, I planned on polishing swirl marks and whatnot with z5 and polishing with z2, then putting a coat of wax over that. Is that a good idea or no?
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I use Turtle Wax color wax. This is my car after one coat:
Yeah yeah, I know the back is already replaced black again. I think the wax does a good job, but the lasting power is kind of weak. In the area of 3-4 weeks.
Yeah yeah, I know the back is already replaced black again. I think the wax does a good job, but the lasting power is kind of weak. In the area of 3-4 weeks.
10-31-2004, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by adamp
Yeah, I planned on polishing swirl marks and whatnot with z5 and polishing with z2, then putting a coat of wax over that. Is that a good idea or no?
-Mike
10-31-2004, 04:53 PM
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Alright, well since my choices aren't looking so good, someone give me a very good set-up of a scratch/swirl mark remover, polish, and wax for a black car that will give me the deepest, wettest look. Be sure to specify which product, for example, don't just say Menzerna, becuase their's multiple polishes made by them.
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10-31-2004, 08:13 PM
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That's why I said you need to polish your car with an abrasive. You need a true polish to remove swirls and scratches.
I use Menzerna Intensive polish and Menzerna Final polish, but to really take advantage of those polishes, you at least need a Porter Cable random orbital buffer (no cheap imitaions).
If you want some good polishes that work by hand, you might look into Einzett polishes.
No one can tell you exactly what your car needs without looking at it.
If I were you, I would get some good polishes and get your car looking the way you want it and then seal it up with Zaino or whatever you'd like.
I use Menzerna Intensive polish and Menzerna Final polish, but to really take advantage of those polishes, you at least need a Porter Cable random orbital buffer (no cheap imitaions).
If you want some good polishes that work by hand, you might look into Einzett polishes.
No one can tell you exactly what your car needs without looking at it.
If I were you, I would get some good polishes and get your car looking the way you want it and then seal it up with Zaino or whatever you'd like.
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Opinions are like armpits...
On my NBM, here is what I do:
Wash - Meguiars Car wash concentrate
Dry - The Absorber, follwed with a microfiber towel (the khaki ones from Autopia)
Clay (twice per year) - Claymagic or Zaino clay, using carwash and water in a spray bottle as lube (detailing mist also works well here).
Polish 1 - Menzerna Intensive Polish with an orange pad on the Porter Cable 7336/7424. Wipe off excess with a 50/50 water and rubbing alcohol mix and a waffle weave microfiber towel.
Polish 2 - Menzerna Final Polish 2. Wipe off excess with a clean waffle weave microfiber towel (NO alcohol/water).
Sealant - Blackfire sealant. Apply by hand with a foam applicator. Wipe off with a microfiber buffing towel.
Wax - Meguiars #26. Same application as sealant.
Quick detailer - Meguiars Quick Detailer spray.
Why wax AND sealant? For one thing, wax evaporates, so using a sealant as a base gives me more protection. Also, it adds depth to the finish.
I have also had good luck with Meguiars ColorX instead of the Menzerna Final Polish 2. I've tried Meguiars #7 glaze a few times, but never with really good results. I think it's more of a technique problem, and something I'm working on. I do the above about twice a year, but I re-apply wax about once a month or so. I wash pretty much every weekend, followed by detailer spray.
A word about NXT: I really like the product, but the reason I don't use it is because the companion NXT detailer spray tends to get splotchy. By using #26, I can use the regular detailer's spray and it looks great. Also, NXT is a cleaner/wax, so I can't layer it like I want to.
In all honesty, products are totally secondary to good washing and drying techniques. If you have spots and swirls, you need to re-address how you wash and dry.
-Mike
On my NBM, here is what I do:
Wash - Meguiars Car wash concentrate
Dry - The Absorber, follwed with a microfiber towel (the khaki ones from Autopia)
Clay (twice per year) - Claymagic or Zaino clay, using carwash and water in a spray bottle as lube (detailing mist also works well here).
Polish 1 - Menzerna Intensive Polish with an orange pad on the Porter Cable 7336/7424. Wipe off excess with a 50/50 water and rubbing alcohol mix and a waffle weave microfiber towel.
Polish 2 - Menzerna Final Polish 2. Wipe off excess with a clean waffle weave microfiber towel (NO alcohol/water).
Sealant - Blackfire sealant. Apply by hand with a foam applicator. Wipe off with a microfiber buffing towel.
Wax - Meguiars #26. Same application as sealant.
Quick detailer - Meguiars Quick Detailer spray.
Why wax AND sealant? For one thing, wax evaporates, so using a sealant as a base gives me more protection. Also, it adds depth to the finish.
I have also had good luck with Meguiars ColorX instead of the Menzerna Final Polish 2. I've tried Meguiars #7 glaze a few times, but never with really good results. I think it's more of a technique problem, and something I'm working on. I do the above about twice a year, but I re-apply wax about once a month or so. I wash pretty much every weekend, followed by detailer spray.
A word about NXT: I really like the product, but the reason I don't use it is because the companion NXT detailer spray tends to get splotchy. By using #26, I can use the regular detailer's spray and it looks great. Also, NXT is a cleaner/wax, so I can't layer it like I want to.
In all honesty, products are totally secondary to good washing and drying techniques. If you have spots and swirls, you need to re-address how you wash and dry.
-Mike
10-31-2004, 10:36 PM
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I've been using Meguiar's Gold Class, but there's still TONS of swirl marks, and it just looks SO bad. I just want something for my car to look good....
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Originally Posted by adamp
I've been using Meguiar's Gold Class, but there's still TONS of swirl marks, and it just looks SO bad. I just want something for my car to look good....
Try Meguiars Scratch X b4 you polish...it works
11-01-2004, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 02WS6Bird
Try Meguiars Scratch X b4 you polish...it works
11-01-2004, 09:39 AM
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There is no absolute best, because it is subjective to each person.
Proper prep work is the key. Once you have that, you car will look amazing with Turtle Wax.
POLISH IT PROPERLY AND SEAL IT
Proper prep work is the key. Once you have that, you car will look amazing with Turtle Wax.
POLISH IT PROPERLY AND SEAL IT