picked out a h/c package.. wondering what ya'll think?
11-29-2004, 01:17 AM
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picked out a h/c package.. wondering what ya'll think? ls1 speeds patriot h/c package.. includes assembled heads/gaskets/crankbolt i think/ pushrods and any compcam from them...
so i was thinking ls6 heads.. there stock casting.. bump the compression up to 10.5:1. will that work with 93-95 octane? comp cams 224/228 .58X lift 114 lsa...
car is a auto with tci 3000 stall, might consider going to a 3500 stall, with lt headers and offroad pipe...
i think that be a pretty mild cam for a auto, but make decent power n/a wth heads/cam and complete patriot vavletrain with dual springs ect.. and i think it would really wake things up on the srpay dont ya'll???
do i have to get the ls6 heads to change compression to 10:5-1... or can i do the patriot stage 2 ls1 heads.. like 1700$ or 2100$.. looking to save money and wanna know will it be worth it. heres the link.. down at the bottom of page, its my reason for the confusion http://www.ls1speed.com/catagory.cfm?catagory=valve
so i was thinking ls6 heads.. there stock casting.. bump the compression up to 10.5:1. will that work with 93-95 octane? comp cams 224/228 .58X lift 114 lsa...
car is a auto with tci 3000 stall, might consider going to a 3500 stall, with lt headers and offroad pipe...
i think that be a pretty mild cam for a auto, but make decent power n/a wth heads/cam and complete patriot vavletrain with dual springs ect.. and i think it would really wake things up on the srpay dont ya'll???
do i have to get the ls6 heads to change compression to 10:5-1... or can i do the patriot stage 2 ls1 heads.. like 1700$ or 2100$.. looking to save money and wanna know will it be worth it. heres the link.. down at the bottom of page, its my reason for the confusion http://www.ls1speed.com/catagory.cfm?catagory=valve
11-29-2004, 01:33 AM
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hey man.. any idea on how much power i could make based on about 315 to the wheels now with that cam alone, and with the cam/heads... any close estimation would be appreciated.. goal is 400n/a.. im afriad im going to come up short with heads and cam while others make it cam only.. but thats such a good price for everything
11-29-2004, 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by redrocketls1
hey man.. any idea on how much power i could make based on about 315 to the wheels now with that cam alone, and with the cam/heads... any close estimation would be appreciated.. goal is 400n/a.. im afriad im going to come up short with heads and cam while others make it cam only.. but thats such a good price for everything
with this combo plus LTs,ORY and a dyno tune you'd be over 400 to the wheels
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ok man u been a big help and i just got one more stupid question to ask..
would it be better to do the first cam with ls6 heads or
the 231/237 588 595 112lsa cam with stage 2 ls1 heads for 400$ less... or that second cam with teh ls6 how much more power is possible vs the smaller cam with ls6... trying to decide b/t the two.. just dont know if that second one with the 112lsa would hurt me on a 150 shot.. but i must know im getting 400+rwhp before i lay down 2100$..
sorry for so many questions.. im 19 with a truck adn car payment and its taken a really long time to save this money and if i get the ls6 its going to take another month lol just wanna make sure its worth it..
would it be better to do the first cam with ls6 heads or
the 231/237 588 595 112lsa cam with stage 2 ls1 heads for 400$ less... or that second cam with teh ls6 how much more power is possible vs the smaller cam with ls6... trying to decide b/t the two.. just dont know if that second one with the 112lsa would hurt me on a 150 shot.. but i must know im getting 400+rwhp before i lay down 2100$..
sorry for so many questions.. im 19 with a truck adn car payment and its taken a really long time to save this money and if i get the ls6 its going to take another month lol just wanna make sure its worth it..
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11-29-2004, 05:14 AM
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Ok guys,
1- Patriot LS6 are not "real" LS6 castings. They are 6.0 castings, CNC machined in LS6 style.
2- You can achieve very close to 400rwhp, cam only and full bolt ons. Your 02 has "241" LS1 casting heads that flow pretty good to achieve this number.
I have a 01 and I'm making 404rwhp with a 224/220 XE-R Stealth II.
By "FULL" bolt ons I mean LT's, ORY, cutout, pulley, TB, induction,adjustable fuel regulator at rail, all free mods, catch can (to keep oil out of you Comb. Chambers) and tuning software.
3- You have to decide where in the powerband do you want that power. Some cams will only give you that from 6300-7000rpms, I get mine from 5900-6400.
4- Check FMS cams, they are famous for good power, driveability, like FM11 or FM13.
5- You are going to need a minimum of 3500 stall, if for the track YPT 4400 is where it is at. I have a VIG 3200 for my little cam (Stalls at 3600).
1- Patriot LS6 are not "real" LS6 castings. They are 6.0 castings, CNC machined in LS6 style.
2- You can achieve very close to 400rwhp, cam only and full bolt ons. Your 02 has "241" LS1 casting heads that flow pretty good to achieve this number.
I have a 01 and I'm making 404rwhp with a 224/220 XE-R Stealth II.
By "FULL" bolt ons I mean LT's, ORY, cutout, pulley, TB, induction,adjustable fuel regulator at rail, all free mods, catch can (to keep oil out of you Comb. Chambers) and tuning software.
3- You have to decide where in the powerband do you want that power. Some cams will only give you that from 6300-7000rpms, I get mine from 5900-6400.
4- Check FMS cams, they are famous for good power, driveability, like FM11 or FM13.
5- You are going to need a minimum of 3500 stall, if for the track YPT 4400 is where it is at. I have a VIG 3200 for my little cam (Stalls at 3600).