APE: Anyone competitent work there?
01-19-2005, 03:46 PM
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APE: Anyone competitent work there? Here's a brief recap of my experiences with APE. I will allow you to draw your own conclusions...
I ordered a "balanced" rotating assembly and main studs in August. I ordered "race" heads, injectors, twin Walbro fuel pumps, head studs, pushrods, gaskets, and cam in September.
1) to get 90% of the parts took until the beginning of december
2) "race" heads are not polished... Not the runners, not the chambers, nada
3) wrong cam sent
4) replacement cam took 7 weeks
5) no bearings were included -- Chris promised to overnight them to me so I could get my build done in beginning of Decemeber, they arrived 10 days and 5 phone calls later
6) Fuel pumps NEVER arrived
7) wrong pistons -- despite ordering heads from them, they ordered the pistons for a different chamber size
8) "balanced" assembly is 80 grams off in the front and 63 grams off in the back
9) the pistons again <sigh> ONE piston has been machined so that it is 20% lighter than the other seven... (we assume this is to clear the crank sensor ring, but COME ON... ONE PISTON LIGHTER????!!??)
10) the replacement cam is also slightly wrong but close enough
11) It took from August until December to get all the parts of the rotating assembly (and not just the bearins...)
12) It took from September to the end of December to get all the head / injector / etc parts and I had to cancel the fuel pumps after being promised they had shipped once a week for 7 weeks.
13) I have to pay to get my "balanced" rotating assembly rebalanced because no one at APE (read Chris) will return my calls since the "credit" for the heads and the fuel pumps they claim to have issueed oon 12/23 has never shown up as a credit to my cc company...
Now, I could understand some of this had I ever once been an ******* about any of this. On the contrary I was VERY understanding about it all and gave them chance after chance after chance to make it right. At this point, I'm done with 'em.
Good thing credit card companies dispute charges.
I forgot to mention: I've been without my daily driver since 11/15 largely because of parts missing / wrong from APE. Everything was absolutely promised to me by the first week of Novemeber...
I ordered a "balanced" rotating assembly and main studs in August. I ordered "race" heads, injectors, twin Walbro fuel pumps, head studs, pushrods, gaskets, and cam in September.
1) to get 90% of the parts took until the beginning of december
2) "race" heads are not polished... Not the runners, not the chambers, nada
3) wrong cam sent
4) replacement cam took 7 weeks
5) no bearings were included -- Chris promised to overnight them to me so I could get my build done in beginning of Decemeber, they arrived 10 days and 5 phone calls later
6) Fuel pumps NEVER arrived
7) wrong pistons -- despite ordering heads from them, they ordered the pistons for a different chamber size
8) "balanced" assembly is 80 grams off in the front and 63 grams off in the back
9) the pistons again <sigh> ONE piston has been machined so that it is 20% lighter than the other seven... (we assume this is to clear the crank sensor ring, but COME ON... ONE PISTON LIGHTER????!!??)
10) the replacement cam is also slightly wrong but close enough
11) It took from August until December to get all the parts of the rotating assembly (and not just the bearins...)
12) It took from September to the end of December to get all the head / injector / etc parts and I had to cancel the fuel pumps after being promised they had shipped once a week for 7 weeks.
13) I have to pay to get my "balanced" rotating assembly rebalanced because no one at APE (read Chris) will return my calls since the "credit" for the heads and the fuel pumps they claim to have issueed oon 12/23 has never shown up as a credit to my cc company...
Now, I could understand some of this had I ever once been an ******* about any of this. On the contrary I was VERY understanding about it all and gave them chance after chance after chance to make it right. At this point, I'm done with 'em.
Good thing credit card companies dispute charges.
I forgot to mention: I've been without my daily driver since 11/15 largely because of parts missing / wrong from APE. Everything was absolutely promised to me by the first week of Novemeber...
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01-19-2005, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboBerserker
Here's a brief recap of my experiences with APE. I will allow you to draw your own conclusions...
I ordered a "balanced" rotating assembly and main studs in August. I ordered "race" heads, injectors, twin Walbro fuel pumps, head studs, pushrods, gaskets, and cam in September.
1) to get 90% of the parts took until the beginning of december
2) "race" heads are not polished... Not the runners, not the chambers, nada
3) wrong cam sent
4) replacement cam took 7 weeks
5) no bearings were included -- Chris promised to overnight them to me so I could get my build done in beginning of Decemeber, they arrived 10 days and 5 phone calls later
6) Fuel pumps NEVER arrived
7) wrong pistons -- despite ordering heads from them, they ordered the pistons for a different chamber size
8) "balanced" assembly is 80 grams off in the front and 63 grams off in the back
9) the pistons again <sigh> ONE piston has been machined so that it is 20% lighter than the other seven... (we assume this is to clear the crank sensor ring, but COME ON... ONE PISTON LIGHTER????!!??)
10) the replacement cam is also slightly wrong but close enough
11) It took from August until December to get all the parts of the rotating assembly (and not just the bearins...)
12) It took from September to the end of December to get all the head / injector / etc parts and I had to cancel the fuel pumps after being promised they had shipped once a week for 7 weeks.
13) I have to pay to get my "balanced" rotating assembly rebalanced because no one at APE (read Chris) will return my calls since the "credit" for the heads and the fuel pumps they claim to have issueed oon 12/23 has never shown up as a credit to my cc company...
Now, I could understand some of this had I ever once been an ******* about any of this. On the contrary I was VERY understanding about it all and gave them chance after chance after chance to make it right. At this point, I'm done with 'em.
Good thing credit card companies dispute charges.
I forgot to mention: I've been without my daily driver since 11/15 largely because of parts missing / wrong from APE. Everything was absolutely promised to me by the first week of Novemeber...
I ordered a "balanced" rotating assembly and main studs in August. I ordered "race" heads, injectors, twin Walbro fuel pumps, head studs, pushrods, gaskets, and cam in September.
1) to get 90% of the parts took until the beginning of december
2) "race" heads are not polished... Not the runners, not the chambers, nada
3) wrong cam sent
4) replacement cam took 7 weeks
5) no bearings were included -- Chris promised to overnight them to me so I could get my build done in beginning of Decemeber, they arrived 10 days and 5 phone calls later
6) Fuel pumps NEVER arrived
7) wrong pistons -- despite ordering heads from them, they ordered the pistons for a different chamber size
8) "balanced" assembly is 80 grams off in the front and 63 grams off in the back
9) the pistons again <sigh> ONE piston has been machined so that it is 20% lighter than the other seven... (we assume this is to clear the crank sensor ring, but COME ON... ONE PISTON LIGHTER????!!??)
10) the replacement cam is also slightly wrong but close enough
11) It took from August until December to get all the parts of the rotating assembly (and not just the bearins...)
12) It took from September to the end of December to get all the head / injector / etc parts and I had to cancel the fuel pumps after being promised they had shipped once a week for 7 weeks.
13) I have to pay to get my "balanced" rotating assembly rebalanced because no one at APE (read Chris) will return my calls since the "credit" for the heads and the fuel pumps they claim to have issueed oon 12/23 has never shown up as a credit to my cc company...
Now, I could understand some of this had I ever once been an ******* about any of this. On the contrary I was VERY understanding about it all and gave them chance after chance after chance to make it right. At this point, I'm done with 'em.
Good thing credit card companies dispute charges.
I forgot to mention: I've been without my daily driver since 11/15 largely because of parts missing / wrong from APE. Everything was absolutely promised to me by the first week of Novemeber...
Best of Luck to you and I hope this doesn't cost to terribly much more.
You know, stuff like this really sours what should be a wonderful experience.
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01-19-2005, 05:32 PM
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that sucks man. I thought that Parish ran into some trouble with them building his 408 before he had Combination build it??? Im not positive but i think he did. either way that sucks man.
01-19-2005, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboBerserker
Now, I could understand some of this had I ever once been an ******* about any of this. On the contrary I was VERY understanding about it all and gave them chance after chance after chance to make it right. At this point, I'm done with 'em.
Good thing credit card companies dispute charges.
I forgot to mention: I've been without my daily driver since 11/15 largely because of parts missing / wrong from APE. Everything was absolutely promised to me by the first week of Novemeber...
Good thing credit card companies dispute charges.
I forgot to mention: I've been without my daily driver since 11/15 largely because of parts missing / wrong from APE. Everything was absolutely promised to me by the first week of Novemeber...
I hope everything works out for you. This is the main reason I have such a hard time letting my money go. I will seriously hurt someone and face court proceeding before I get ripped off by some *******!
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01-19-2005, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by greentahoe
I will seriously hurt someone and face court proceeding before I get ripped off by some *******!
Gee tell us how you really feel.
Well, it sounds like you gave them every chance you could. I know I wouldn't have of been that patient, especially when dropping that kind of coin. I wonder if they'll chime in to defend themselves seeing as their a sponsor.
01-19-2005, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LTNKLR01
that sucks man. I thought that Parish ran into some trouble with them building his 408 before he had Combination build it??? Im not positive but i think he did. either way that sucks man.
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01-19-2005, 06:21 PM
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that sucks man. I thought that Parish ran into some trouble with them building his 408 before he had Combination build it??? Im not positive but i think he did. either way that sucks man.
01-19-2005, 09:00 PM
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Erik,
From the time I ordered my block it took 8 weeks to build my motor and I was a pain in the ***…..
16 weeks is unacceptable, especially when you don't get phone calls back....
Good luck with everything from here......
From the time I ordered my block it took 8 weeks to build my motor and I was a pain in the ***…..
16 weeks is unacceptable, especially when you don't get phone calls back....
Good luck with everything from here......