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Old 02-23-2005, 01:19 PM
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Default Serious FI guys.. What are you running?

Just wondering what all of you are running for a fuel system. I need to start planing mine and buying parts. Thanks in advance..

Details of build are in the sig. Oh, the car will have either a T91 or T101 on it.
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My thoughts..


Tanks:
5 Gal fuel cell in the trunk (C16) -10 out
Stock tank with Sump (91) - 10 out


Input to pump:
-10 lines to
Earls -10 Shut off (for each tank) 230505ERL
NOS -10 Y fitting 17846NOS
Aeromotive 12301 Fuel Filter -10
BG King Sumo Pump - 10
BG Regulator -10
-10 to fuel rails


Return line coming off regulator:
Small -8 line
Magna -8 Y fitting MP6288
Earls -8 Shut off (for each tank) 230503ERL This will keep me from dumping C16 in to the 91 and over filling it. Very little 91 would be left in the lines.
-8 return lines to each tank


Let me know what you think
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sounds great, what are you doing for a firewall?
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I'd look into a different pump, but other than that it sounds like a great system.
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Would you mind letting me know why you would advise a different pump?

348ci / AFR 225 Heads / Custom Turbo Cam / T101 Turbo.

Combo should make some pretty decent power.
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I've heard from several people that the BG pumps are very unreliable. Weldon, Magnafuel, Product Engineering hold up real well and deliver a LOT of fuel. Aeromotives are questionable, some people love them, others hate them with regards to reliability.
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That's funny, I've heard the BG to be the most reliable..
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Weldon pump can't be beat. My buddy has 2 magaflow, b/c he needed two to do the job of one Weldon. Just look and the Big Guys in drag racing Weldon everything!
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But are these pumps reliable on the street? 250 mile road trips to LA each way?
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Weldons can be with a step down box. Product Engineering originally designed the Magnafuels, but sold it a while ago due to health problems of the owner. Now he's back in business, and his products are basically the Magnafuel, but a slightly different design from what I've heard. Product Engineering is built for continuous street duty without a step-down box, and I think the Magnafuels are too. They're a slight bit quieter too. I've heard a lot of people not like BG pumps in general.

For example, this is from a post I was in a long time ago on CamaroZ28.com...

Originally Posted by 526 SS 96
The Barry grant king sumo pump is junk. Don't waste your money or your time with it. My BGKS just broke, again, for the fifth time in less than 1 year. I think after the 2nd pump BG suggested that I buy the step down box, so I did, and at the low voltage setting the pump doesn't turn fast enough to even make pressure with the engine running. My system is plumbed, and wired perfectly. Half the time the berring retainging ring breaks, and then the pump is louder than my exhaust (no cats & Hooker LT's). The other half simply had bad electric motors and would blow fueses in minutes ( in the most recent case 2 sec). I am more than a little frustrated with this pump it was a very expensive total failure. However I can say that the guy at BG was helpful and concerned, they also sent me 5 brand new pumps for free (exchanged that is) I guess they where doing R&D on my failed units. Which is all nice and everything, but my car never runs. I decided to buy the weldon kit that was shown in a previous post. I just hope that for $1,300.00 this pump won't leave me stranded like the POS King homo. I am in the middle of the weldon pump controller install, so if any one has any info on how they wired theirs I would apreciate it.
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I'm running a Weldon myself.
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So what about this.

Weldon 2025 pump
Weldon 2040 regulator
Weldon 14000 Dial a flow

I can find the whole package around $1200.
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The Weldon 2025 is LOUD. But will work and a step down box is the only way to do it right for street driving IMO. But I run the Aeromotive Controler on my 2015.
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These controllers are nothing more than a simple PWM (Pulse Width Modulator). The PWM basically turns DC current in to a form of AC current. The output voltage stays the same as the input voltage. You can control the pulse (frequency) of the AC with either a resistor or potemptoimeter.

Looking at the Weldon one, the PWM is controlled with a potemptiometer.

Can't tell on the Aeromotive one. Is it adjustable? The Aeromotive one might be controlled by a resistor to keep a contant pulse (frequency).

I have found a potemptiometer controlled PWM that will handle 12-36v * 80a. 2,880 watts continuos (peak I think was 10k watts) for less than $100. (Weldons 16v * 26a = 416w $350).
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Aeromotive's is RPM controled. but has a switch (just grounds) that will set the pump to override a stay in full power mode.




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