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Old 06-28-2005, 01:56 PM
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Ok, car's got about 32k on it now, probably 15-20 track passes, but no slicks or even any sub 2.2 sec 60 ft times. I'm having a problem where the clutch tends to stay stuck to the floor after shifting above 4500, and also the clutch gets real spongy if I've been driving the car for more than an hour or so. Also, the car isn't going into 2nd, 3rd, and reverse as easily as it used to, but this is more of an intermittent thing. Is this a problem with my clutch or the hydraulics?
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Sound more like a slave / master problem to me.
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Originally Posted by conan
Sound more like a slave / master problem to me.


What he said. But to add on to that, I've just started having problems with my clutch sticking to the floor and through the research I've done It's prolly the master and slave.
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Yep, I am getting the same problems. I will go to shift and it slides out of gears OK, but wont go into the next one. The clutch is not releasing all the way. But it doesnt appear that I have a fluid leak, and I have everything tied away from the exhaust. My master/slave combo has about 30000 miles on it. I have also heard that the clutch fingers and throwout bearing might "stick" together causing a similar issue. Either way it is very annoying to try and race somebody and the damn thing wont go into gear
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Originally Posted by bowtieman81
Either way it is very annoying to try and race somebody and the damn thing wont go into gear

Yeah, that's for damn sure. You guys think this problem could be solved with the drill mod, or do I need to replace the master and slave?
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Well, mine has teh drill mod done, so for me the answer is no.
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I was having a problem where it wouldnt go into third when I was reving over 6k. Have no idea what it is because I have a McCleod master and drill mod. Im gonna try and put in a shim this weekend.
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Originally Posted by conan
Sounds more like a slave / master problem to me.
You gotta watch those "Slave/Master" realtionships

Seriously though, the clutch wearing out will be seen as soft engagement, slipping. Shifting problems are more likely hydraulic related. Upshifting issues under hard accelleration is related to the clutch linkage not reacting quickly enough to the pedal. Better shifter, upgrade to 01,02 slave, adjustable MC, drill mod & thorough bleeding are the cures.

I struggled with these things for a while, all the time damaging the tranny in missed shifts, now with a rebuilt trans w/steel shift fork & no air in the clutch hydraulics it's working like a champ.
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Is there anything better out there than the stock 01-02 slave cylinder?
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Originally Posted by navy02ws6
Is there anything better out there than the stock 01-02 slave cylinder?
I'm pretty sure there isn't.
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my car has the clutch sticking to the floor problem too.
but i don't know what to do since it's an 02 with only 23k miles.
any suggestions??
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Originally Posted by 02blckws6
my car has the clutch sticking to the floor problem too.
but i don't know what to do since it's an 02 with only 23k miles.
any suggestions??
Check to see if there are any leaks. I've heard people say that the hydraulic lines get really hot and to help this you can put header wrap on the steal lines.
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i know there is no leaks, because i check it almost daily.
but ill try the header wrap and see what happens.
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mine sticks to the floor also, and as far as i know i don't have any leaks. i guess i need to look for an 01-02 slave cylinder.
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Mine doesn't necessarily stick to the floor, but the spongy feel is definitely there. The shifting action isn't the greatest, but once I get it into gear it feels great. It's just a bitch to get it into the gear sometimes. This seems to have worsened actually since I got my pro 5.0 shifter, but I think just because my throws got shorter it amplified the problem that was probably already there. I don't think my clutch is worn out, but I'm thinking mine is the hydraulics as well. Seeming how the slave cylinder is a lot less pricey than the master cylinder, do you guys think it might be wise to change out to an 01-02 and see if this does me any better?

All I know is this is the one thing that I don't like about the car right now, and this is the one thing that's keeping me from my first time at the track because I don't want to embarass myself shifting.
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i'm gonna look to put an 01 in my car. i hope that fixes the problem.



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