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Old 08-23-2005, 11:41 AM
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Default A new Charger w/Hemi just kicked dust in my face

On the way back from lunch a Charger with a Hemi gets behind me at a light. I had not come to a complete stop and was going ahead at about 30 mph when he switched to the 2nd lane and punched it.

His car jumped quicker than I thought and had almost a car by the time my 2nd gear was in a good power range. We went to about 75 or 80 mph and he maintained almost a car lead. I was not able to real him in at all with that little burst.

As I said it was on the way back from lunch And in an area where police are trained so he did a U turn and I kept on. I assume it was stock and since it was right across the street from the Chrysler headquarters I figured he worked there.

Anyhow, chalk up my 3rd loss to date to a Charger with a Hemi. Also, I have to confess that I was surprised. Especially, since I smoked a Magnum with a Hemi a month ago from a dig.

Oh well. win some and lose some.


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After checking the reviews on the SRT8 Charger I cannot believe it did as well as it did. It had to have been modded.


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need more power
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Originally Posted by 2001CamaroGuy
need more power
Most definately.

Head and Cam work hopefully this winter.
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Originally Posted by ActionJack
Most definately.

Head and Cam work hopefully this winter.
"GETER DONE....."
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How much do the hemi-chargers weigh? I raced one about a week ago and was able to pull a car or so on him from a short run from 25-70mph. They run strong but i figured an f-body would still be able to take a stock hemi charger. You said it might have been an srt-8?
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Originally Posted by 98Z28MASS
How much do the hemi-chargers weigh? I raced one about a week ago and was able to pull a car or so on him from a short run from 25-70mph. They run strong but i figured an f-body would still be able to take a stock hemi charger. You said it might have been an srt-8?
I am sure it was.

It was that metalic orange color.
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Yea they have a 6.1 425 hp hemi correct? That would probably explain the results. I havent even seen an srt-8 in my area yet, how did it look?
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Arent these cars 13.8-14.3 second cars?? I think they are listed up there. I have not read anything about them in quite a while but I remember that the stock mustang gt should eat up a regular srt-8. I really thought those cars were slow, though THEY ARE VERY NICE! I love what dodge-chrysler has done over the past few years by really putting out some wonderful vehicles. I was at the dealer today getting my rear diff leak fixed and I saw this bad yellow h/c z06 idleing in the garage. I own a z06 and I was in awe. The thing looked like it was built yesterday and sounded like no car I have heard before. JUST RAW POWER. Dr.Bigg
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Originally Posted by Dr.Bigg
Arent these cars 13.8-14.3 second cars?? I think they are listed up there. I have not read anything about them in quite a while but I remember that the stock mustang gt should eat up a regular srt-8. I really thought those cars were slow, though THEY ARE VERY NICE! I love what dodge-chrysler has done over the past few years by really putting out some wonderful vehicles. I was at the dealer today getting my rear diff leak fixed and I saw this bad yellow h/c z06 idleing in the garage. I own a z06 and I was in awe. The thing looked like it was built yesterday and sounded like no car I have heard before. JUST RAW POWER. Dr.Bigg
Exactly! I am really surprised you lost to one. I blistered onces *** 9 ways of sunday in my Vette the other day. Light bolton LS1s have given me more trouble.
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Originally Posted by METALBEAST
Exactly! I am really surprised you lost to one. I blistered onces *** 9 ways of sunday in my Vette the other day. Light bolton LS1s have given me more trouble.
I am waiting on a response from a couple of engineers at Chrysler that would have some real data but I can add that my car is not stock.

I took a 2005 GTO a couple of weeks ago and when I was stock I was able to do 13.2 in the 1/4 mile and now I have about 40 to 50 RWHP more. I have also had no problem with stock C5s.

No, this thing was quick and at least a 13.0 sec 1/4 mile car. Being I have an A4 and with my 3.73 gear suspect my launch was not at it peak and I did not downshift to 1st (which is good for 40 mph at least).

Either way... the car sounded nice and it had plenty of pull if it was stock.
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The SRT-8 charger should be around 13.1-13.3 in the quarter at probably around 108. They run pretty good for a 4 door sedan. Definitely no slouch.
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Yeah there is a big difference between the ones with the regular Hemi which is 345hp, like the 300C's. The SRT-8's are a different beast and as other have pointed out come with a 425hp 6.1 liter engine. This car, bone stock, in all it's 4-door luxurious heft, has run a 12.9. It's no slouch!

Again, don't confuse the regular Hemi ones with the SRT-8. Big difference!
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The srt8s have a big hood scoop on the front if you saw that hood scoop then it was a 6.1L hemi, they also have a daytona version but its just the normal 345hp.
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Originally Posted by KB99WS6
Yeah there is a big difference between the ones with the regular Hemi which is 345hp, like the 300C's. The SRT-8's are a different beast and as other have pointed out come with a 425hp 6.1 liter engine. This car, bone stock, in all it's 4-door luxurious heft, has run a 12.9. It's no slouch!

Again, don't confuse the regular Hemi ones with the SRT-8. Big difference!
the difference isn't that big where it counts. the regular hemi has about 340hp(350 in charger RT trim) and 390tq, and the srt8 versions have 425hp and 420tq. so the hp gain is nice, but the tq is where it matters to move a heavy pig, and it only has 30 more tq. also the srt8s have the 20in wheels which doesnt help them.
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Originally Posted by JustAnIlluzion
the difference isn't that big where it counts. the regular hemi has about 340hp(350 in charger RT trim) and 390tq, and the srt8 versions have 425hp and 420tq. so the hp gain is nice, but the tq is where it matters to move a heavy pig, and it only has 30 more tq. also the srt8s have the 20in wheels which doesnt help them.
yeap, reguardless of the torque difference, but the suspension is better on the srt-8 version, I expect that the srt-8 is putting it to the pavement better.

edit: the 6.1L hemi is rated the same output horse power the 426 hemi put out in the 60s using the old rules. Just read a motortrend article on it. It matched it for horsepower. Pretty damn interesting.
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GSM also has superchargers out for both the 5.7 and 6.1. The 5.7 supercharged is putting over 400 to the wheels . The 6.1 supercharged is putting over 500. There are also dynatech headers which are putting around 30 hp to the rear on an intake and exhaust 5.7 and over 40 tq.
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How quick are the new chargers with hemis? i saw a new charger at the track the other night and the times were shitty as hell.....i think he just put a hemi badge on or the guy coulnt drive to save his life.....BTW.....install a bottle and go find him again
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Well man if you rolled out bogged in 2nd he was bound to get some momentum on you, I wouldnt worry about it too much things on the street can look kind of strange sometimes. I would suggest you find the dude again and see if you can get a real race with the two you in the correct gear and starting at the same time.
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Originally Posted by JustAnIlluzion
the difference isn't that big where it counts. the regular hemi has about 340hp(350 in charger RT trim) and 390tq, and the srt8 versions have 425hp and 420tq. so the hp gain is nice, but the tq is where it matters to move a heavy pig, and it only has 30 more tq. also the srt8s have the 20in wheels which doesnt help them.
Umm, the SRT-8 has proven itself to be about a full second faster in the 1/4 mile. As I stated, bone stock SRT-8's have run 12.9 in the 1/4 while the best you'll probably get out of the 345 hp one is a 13.9. Most SRT-8's are low 13's while most of the regular ones are low 14's. So Yes the difference is that big where it counts. Unless you don't consider a full second in the 1/4 that big of a difference
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I wasn't aware the SRT8 chargers were even out yet



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