Luna

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Hey guys, I am trying to figure out what mods I want to do next, I'm pretty sure next on the list is headers and a cutout but it makes me wonder. Whats the best kind of times I can see with just boltons , no cam, no FI? . High 11s maybe ?

Right now I have a lid and hooker catback, havent even taken it to the track yet. Probably will by the end of the month.

Like I said I am going to do headers and cutout , then probably underdrive pulley , maybe a convertor, and eventually a 90/90 (< is that a waste w/out a cam?). I really dont want to do a cam until I can afford the gas since it is my daily driver.

Also I want to stay away from the spray Nawwwwwws kinda scares me :-p

30th t/a

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get longtube headers, cutout, asp underive pulley, ported TB, ls6 intake gears, stall convertor and then you should be able to get very low 12 or high 11s. dont forge tot get a tune because that will help get the most out of your setup.

Luna

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only one person here has an opinion ?

Zymosis

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Well if you want to make most power possible w/out cam:

Longtube - 1 7/8
Intake - Fast 90 (get a diff 90 mm tb)
Converter
Cutout
Underdrive pully

And if you want times, get a 12 bolt and slicks

BlueSix

Both of those are overkill for a stock cube stock cam congfiguration. The 90/90 combo may pick up a few ponies up top on a stock internal car, but will lose some on the low end. Not worth the $ per hp on a stock internal car.

BlueSix

Get a good set of 1 3/4" long tubes (QTP's, Kooks), go full bolt on's (lid, some sort of ram air, ported TB, cutout, UD pulley), get a converter (minimum 3500 stall...i would personally do at least a 4000 stall), and a set of stick tires. This should be good for high to mid 11's in good conditions.

FelixIlka

Some people are cutting low 12's with just a converter, lid and catback I was going to do a converter first, but sence I need a tune and bigger tires ( only 245's right now ) I've decided to get LT's + suspension mods, then save for some nice tires to slap a 315 meat out back.

skewba98z28

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You would be surprised what kind of Gas mileage you can get with a cam. A buddy of mine has TR 224 cam and stage 2 heads and still get's 24 to 25 mpg highway. If you keep your foot out of it. A stall though is going to rob a few MPG's though

BlueSix

Only in the city. A lot of H/C cars get better mileage than stock on the highway.

skewba98z28

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true only in stop and go

Whisper

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So some people with a head and cam are seeing BETTER than stock gas mileage with heads and a cam????? In that case what do you think an M6 with long tubes and not too radical of a cam and some good heads could see on the hwy and in the city?

Luna

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same question as whisper but w/ an a4?

01_ram-air

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If you want to improve your ETs, FIRST thing should be a converter and a set of ET Streets or comparable tire. Take me for example, I have a lid, everything else is stock, including exhaust. Was running 13.5s on street tires. Added a ST Yank 4000 converter and a set of ET streets and my times dropped to 12.5s. LT headers will definitely wake the car up, but will it yield you a second like the converter did, NOPE!

Luna

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I would rather start with the stuff that won't kill my gas mileage, headers, cutout, intake, etc. Then do converter and possibly gears, since I only have 273s.

Also if I put some bigger tires on it what is the likelihood I will break the rear end? Because thats one thing I really can't afford to replace any time soon.

Also since the 90/90 is out, would a ported TB and an LS6 intake be worth it since the LS6s can be picked up for pretty cheap.

Last thing, Is there any benefit to using two cutouts right after the headers rather than one on the I pipe?

BlueSix

A4's are a lot less stressful on the rear, many people have taken stock 10 bolt's into the 1.5 60' range on slicks and still haven't killed their rears. The biggest threat to the stock 10 bolt is wheel hop. If you want to avoid that i'd spend some money on suspension parts. A ported TB an LS6 intake would be two very good bolt on's for your car, do a search for the user name cammin beast, i believe he ports stock TB's for very cheap, and does a good job. I personally think two cutouts is overkill for a stock cube car (in most situations). I would go with a single in the I pipe.

skewba98z28

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A buddy of mine is getting around 25mpg on the highway with TR 224 and Stage 2 heads. Driveability is not an issue what's so ever. He dynoed 400 rwhp and just recently went 12.00 on some shitty drag's. He has a 11 second car all the way. Just got to get the tires worked out.

BlueSix

I know Nine Ball used to get like 31-32 in his h/c SS convert. on the highway.

exstanger

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Don't foret the susp. also. All the power in the world won't help if you can't but it to the ground. A set of lca, torque arm, and most impotantly on a t-top car subframe connectors.

Luna

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well I have a hardtop , but I should still probably put some subframes on it I think ? Was also planning on a torque arm. And about Nine Ball getting 31-32 mpg Hwy? is that an m6 or an a4?

the spindoctor

+1

i'm almost positive the roof of a hardtop car is the exact same underneath as a t-top car, with the main support down the middle.