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12-06-2005, 09:28 PM
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dyno/track questions Whats the difference between a mustang dyno and any other dyno?
How much does a dyno run cost just to get numbers (no tune or anything)
How much does it cost for a dyno w/ a tune.
Exactly what are they changing when they tune your car? I think they mess with your a/f mixture but not sure what else (A4 if it matters.)
Are there any downsides to a dyno tune at all? i.e. gas mileage, or other stuff.
And last, how much should it cost me to go to a 1/4 track for a handful of runs?
Thanks for the help.
How much does a dyno run cost just to get numbers (no tune or anything)
How much does it cost for a dyno w/ a tune.
Exactly what are they changing when they tune your car? I think they mess with your a/f mixture but not sure what else (A4 if it matters.)
Are there any downsides to a dyno tune at all? i.e. gas mileage, or other stuff.
And last, how much should it cost me to go to a 1/4 track for a handful of runs?
Thanks for the help.
12-07-2005, 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mpe488
1) Whats the difference between a mustang dyno and any other dyno?
2) How much does a dyno run cost just to get numbers (no tune or anything)
3) How much does it cost for a dyno w/ a tune.
4) Exactly what are they changing when they tune your car? I think they mess with your a/f mixture but not sure what else (A4 if it matters.)
5) Are there any downsides to a dyno tune at all? i.e. gas mileage, or other stuff.
6) And last, how much should it cost me to go to a 1/4 track for a handful of runs?
Thanks for the help.
2) How much does a dyno run cost just to get numbers (no tune or anything)
3) How much does it cost for a dyno w/ a tune.
4) Exactly what are they changing when they tune your car? I think they mess with your a/f mixture but not sure what else (A4 if it matters.)
5) Are there any downsides to a dyno tune at all? i.e. gas mileage, or other stuff.
6) And last, how much should it cost me to go to a 1/4 track for a handful of runs?
Thanks for the help.
I'm not the best one to answer your questions, but nobody else has so I'll take a swing at it... I numbered your questions for referance
1) If your asking the actual mechanical diff. between a mustang dyno and a dyno jet.... I don't know
But a mustang dynoe will always produce lower numbers than a dyno jet... besides that... I'm clueless!2) It's different everywhere, some places I've seen charge as much as $100, I think I payed $50 for the first 5 pulls without a tune, but sometimes if you cn make it out to a dynoday, you can get some pulls for 20-25 bucks.
3) Again everywhere is different, but I'd say on average a full dyno tune generally will run you around $500
4) A/f, timing, tourqe mgt (if applicable)... there is more to it than that, I'm not the right one to ask on this one either
5) There is no downside to a dyno tune at all... as long as it's done by an experienced tuner that really knows what he's doing. Do some reaserch before picking your tuner... Find a good one.
6) Depends on the track, but up here, for $17 you can go on a street night, and get anywhere from 3-10 runs depending on how busy it is... but generally they are busy up here and you'd prob only get 3-5
I didn;t really answer all your questions, but I hope I helped
12-07-2005, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Nautilus
I'm not the best one to answer your questions, but nobody else has so I'll take a swing at it... I numbered your questions for referance
1) If your asking the actual mechanical diff. between a mustang dyno and a dyno jet.... I don't know But a mustang dynoe will always produce lower numbers than a dyno jet... besides that... I'm clueless!
1) If your asking the actual mechanical diff. between a mustang dyno and a dyno jet.... I don't know
But a mustang dynoe will always produce lower numbers than a dyno jet... besides that... I'm clueless!
Originally Posted by Nautilus
2) It's different everywhere, some places I've seen charge as much as $100, I think I payed $50 for the first 5 pulls without a tune, but sometimes if you cn make it out to a dynoday, you can get some pulls for 20-25 bucks.!
Originally Posted by Nautilus
3) Again everywhere is different, but I'd say on average a full dyno tune generally will run you around $500
Originally Posted by Nautilus
4) A/f, timing, tourqe mgt (if applicable)... there is more to it than that, I'm not the right one to ask on this one either.
Originally Posted by Nautilus
5) There is no downside to a dyno tune at all... as long as it's done by an experienced tuner that really knows what he's doing. Do some reaserch before picking your tuner... Find a good one.
Generally speaking, you gain HP and get better gas mileage after a dyno tune. Nothing to dislike about that.
Originally Posted by Nautilus
6) Depends on the track, but up here, for $17 you can go on a street night, and get anywhere from 3-10 runs depending on how busy it is... but generally they are busy up here and you'd prob only get 3-5.
Originally Posted by Nautilus
I didn;t really answer all your questions, but I hope I helped
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12-07-2005, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mpe488
Whats the difference between a mustang dyno and any other dyno?
Mustang dyno's typically read lower than a dynojet, not sure the exact differences though I could find them in a search I'm sure.
How much does a dyno run cost just to get numbers (no tune or anything)
~$75
How much does it cost for a dyno w/ a tune.
~$450
Exactly what are they changing when they tune your car? I think they mess with your a/f mixture but not sure what else (A4 if it matters.) They change tons of things, the major things that I know about are air/fuel mix, timing, any codes deleted, speed raised, cooling fans changed, they do a lot of stuff I don't understand in street driving to make it idle better and stuff too.
Are there any downsides to a dyno tune at all? i.e. gas mileage, or other stuff.
no, unless you get bad gas and then you will run bad and possibly risk damage to engine. This is because they run the air/fuel and timing right on the edge so you can get the most power.
And last, how much should it cost me to go to a 1/4 track for a handful of runs?
~$15
Thanks for the help.
Mustang dyno's typically read lower than a dynojet, not sure the exact differences though I could find them in a search I'm sure.
How much does a dyno run cost just to get numbers (no tune or anything)
~$75
How much does it cost for a dyno w/ a tune.
~$450
Exactly what are they changing when they tune your car? I think they mess with your a/f mixture but not sure what else (A4 if it matters.) They change tons of things, the major things that I know about are air/fuel mix, timing, any codes deleted, speed raised, cooling fans changed, they do a lot of stuff I don't understand in street driving to make it idle better and stuff too.
Are there any downsides to a dyno tune at all? i.e. gas mileage, or other stuff.
no, unless you get bad gas and then you will run bad and possibly risk damage to engine. This is because they run the air/fuel and timing right on the edge so you can get the most power.
And last, how much should it cost me to go to a 1/4 track for a handful of runs?
~$15
Thanks for the help.
12-07-2005, 10:13 AM
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Heres my stab at it
Originally Posted by mpe488
Whats the difference between a mustang dyno and any other dyno?
Mustang dyno will dyno lower because they simulate the road/resistence/friction etc, they will actualy dyno higher if these settings are turned off though, which is almost never done.
How much does a dyno run cost just to get numbers (no tune or anything)
Varies quite a bit, most around here are 35-45 a pull then 10 a pull after that w/air fuel
How much does it cost for a dyno w/ a tune.
400-500 (i paid 400 for mine)
Exactly what are they changing when they tune your car? I think they mess with your a/f mixture but not sure what else (A4 if it matters.)
Depending on what you have done to the car they will change the idle,shiftpoints,rev limiter, timing etc. Usually the goal is to get the A/F to around 13.0:1, certain mods like a cam for example cause the car to run rich on a stock tune (12.0:1) or around there so it needs to be adjusted, once it is adjusted this is where the power comes from a tune.
Are there any downsides to a dyno tune at all? i.e. gas mileage, or other stuff.
Drivablity and MPG unless the tune is a radical one should both be better after the tune is done, there arent really any "downsides" its based on what you want out of the car.
And last, how much should it cost me to go to a 1/4 track for a handful of runs?
Around here its around $15 on a test and tune day (free runs) to run it as long as you want.
Thanks for the help.
Mustang dyno will dyno lower because they simulate the road/resistence/friction etc, they will actualy dyno higher if these settings are turned off though, which is almost never done.
How much does a dyno run cost just to get numbers (no tune or anything)
Varies quite a bit, most around here are 35-45 a pull then 10 a pull after that w/air fuel
How much does it cost for a dyno w/ a tune.
400-500 (i paid 400 for mine)
Exactly what are they changing when they tune your car? I think they mess with your a/f mixture but not sure what else (A4 if it matters.)
Depending on what you have done to the car they will change the idle,shiftpoints,rev limiter, timing etc. Usually the goal is to get the A/F to around 13.0:1, certain mods like a cam for example cause the car to run rich on a stock tune (12.0:1) or around there so it needs to be adjusted, once it is adjusted this is where the power comes from a tune.
Are there any downsides to a dyno tune at all? i.e. gas mileage, or other stuff.
Drivablity and MPG unless the tune is a radical one should both be better after the tune is done, there arent really any "downsides" its based on what you want out of the car.
And last, how much should it cost me to go to a 1/4 track for a handful of runs?
Around here its around $15 on a test and tune day (free runs) to run it as long as you want.
Thanks for the help.
