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Old 01-01-2006, 03:21 PM
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Talking F14 is in! Heres some input w/video

Sup all. Incase you havent noticed here are my other Three posts about my install...
1:https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/425698-started-heads-cam-today-holy-crap.html
2:https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/429071-update-heads-cam-r-r.html
3:https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/429457-f14-installed-have-few-questions.html
Video:http://video.ls1tech.com/player.aspx...C-F8A74A626741

Heres some input on what I think of it. First I must say that the stock computer does not agree with it totally. But thats a beaten dead-horse. As far as idle quality. It actually idles fine. It does tend to bounce from 680rpm-750rpm. Monitered it with my Predator. Drivability..as long as your moving, your ok. Sitting at a light there is some surging, to be associated with such a large cam, untuned, in a A4 car. Which is solved easily by putting the car in neutral. It is livable though. My y-pipe smacks the floorboard alot more now. So I made a getto rig holding a thick a$$ peice of rubber between it and the floorboard. Stops the banging, but it sqeaks now. Oh..another slight drivability issue. If you dont let the car warm up long enough, even on a warm start, and go to put it in reverse, it'll either stall, or SERIOUS surging. Enough that if your not paying attention you can hit something. Other than that its fine.

As far as mpg issues. Well, I just made a nice long trip of 190mile each way. Used a 1/2 tank each way. Thats untuned too. Doing 76@3k rpms there, which actually used more gas. I did 80@3.2k rpms back, and used less gas. BTW, I have 4.10s. I got around 19mpg on the highway. Before the cam with 4.10s I got 21~mpg. I can only assume it'll get even better with a tune.

While up in phoenix..went to Speedworld. I havent run the car in over a year. Last I was there was with lid, cutout and I was running 13.6s. Well, 1st run was my best, but still sucked. 13.1@112mph 2.35-60ft. PLUS between every gear banged the rev limiter 3-6time before it shifted. Would nose dive, shift then take off again. After that, I had serious issues with traction or tranny not shifting or just going haywire. Tried to adjust it with the predator, but just failed. Some runs got a good launch, but would hit second gear spin bad, then it would go to third at 65mph??? Whatever..I hate my tranny. AND I'm on street tires and completly stock suspension.

If anyone has any questions about the cam or anything else. Feel free to PM me. I hope have given some good feedback on the issue of a large cam in a automatic car. Thank you all for advice I recieved during the install and other times I may have asked mudane questions.

BTW, downloading some vid of at the track, going to edit it and post it up soon!

Ski

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Old 01-01-2006, 05:53 PM
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Added the video..up top
Old 01-01-2006, 06:11 PM
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I'd get a 4000+ stall if you don't have one already

Dyno tuning would help alot.. I have a friend who just put the F-14 in his cam-only Z06 and put down 423/408 to the wheels after a dyno-tune

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Yea, I'm getting a stall next week. I'm also getting rid of those 4.10s..just way to much for the car. Going back to the 3.23s until I get a 9inch or 12bolt.
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Originally Posted by Kraest
I'd get a 4000+ stall if you don't have one already

Dyno tuning would help alot.. I have a friend who just put the F-14 in his cam-only Z06 and put down 423/408 to the wheels after a dyno-tune

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That would be me. The F14 is a great cam. I am really loving it in my Z06, but I have a manual of course.
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Its definatly been interesting so far with it. I love it when I'm stopped at light, cars still in gear, idling ~650rpm I look over and see my passenger seat shaking. Hell, I can feel up top where my t-top meets the a-pillar and feel the car shake enough that you feel the flex between the two. Definatly not a cam for those looking for a 'stock' feeling and driving car.

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Old 01-02-2006, 04:28 AM
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Congrats on the cam, however going to the track or hamering on the motor untuned is just plain......
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Do another write up on it when your done tuning..beatin on the car without a tune aint good for the pushrods,and tranny : )
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get it tuned! after i put mine in, it drove ok and i could feel a little more power when i tested it out but after the tune it drives much better and i can notice a lot more pull from it. I didnt dyno it before the tune but i could def notice a difference
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Congrats on the cam, however going to the track or hamering on the motor untuned is just plain......
I know what your saying. I was up there so..why not? Just wanted to see what it would do. My first run was the only real run. All the other ones were abort before the 1/8m mark. Alot of people were probally wondering wtf? But I was just trying to get a feel for the car on a launch and see what the tranny was doing. Been having alot of problems with the 4l60e..cracked yet ANOTHER tail shaft. 3rd one!! WTF? Time to get a crossmember mounted TQ arm then(wheres UMI at?? ). Save me money in the long run with replacing tailshafts and burning up trannys I guess. Anywho. Yea, planning on getting it tuned mid/late Jan. Up in Pheonix by a local tuner. Gotta replace the tailshaft and going to order my Fuddle stall here soon. Want that in before the tune so that its right. Thanks Y'all. Yes, I'll try to do more writing on the subject and take some video when I get it tuned.

Ski

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dude, shouldnt have put that music in your video, cant even hardly hear the car.
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get it tuned properly.
it will idle smoother and run alot better.

i loved my F14, took down a couple G5X3 cammed cars with it too.
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Originally Posted by vodas00ss
dude, shouldnt have put that music in your video, cant even hardly hear the car.
the music aint that loud..
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whatsup i am planin on goin with the f14 cam also what is hp/tq numbers for your car and as of power how does it fell now
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Originally Posted by SlowPTA
whatsup i am planin on goin with the f14 cam also what is hp/tq numbers for your car and as of power how does it fell now
Hp/Tq..dont know yet. Getting tuned end of next month. I'll let everyone know then. I'm not expecting it to be a dyno queen. It is an A4 after all. Yanking the tranny to pull the TQconverter to get it stalled out this weekend. That and I really need to get a TQarm..keep breaking tailshaft housings. Could just get a Tqarm relocator..but then I still need a Tqarm..stockers suck. I'll keep everyone updated.

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Congrats on the install. Car sounds good, though in the initial start up now i understand why they say your car will sound like a sewing machine.
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2000Hawk: whats up? seen on the SFFBA.net board. Been with them for awhile. Since the begining of SFFBC.com, just that the military has me all the way over here in Az. Good friends with Magnus and Booty. Whats up with all these damn hurricane so late in the season. Seems like Andrew was so long ago now. oh..it has been 13yrs huh? Good luck down there. Keep cover.

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So stock heads?

What pushrod length?
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Originally Posted by BlackHawk T/A
So stock heads?

What pushrod length?
7.4s Its what Futral told me to run. One thing I have noticed is that the lifters are a bit noisy on cold startups. But they "pump" up after a few minutes. I really dont like it, but I'll see how it develops.

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Nice cam choice. Once you have a nice stall and some suspension mods your gonna run a hell of a lot better than that crappy 13.1, trust me I know.



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